Afrihost - Pure Fibre Feedback Thread

Fjorko

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You are right, but I need to compare oranges with oranges. Meaning that the CISP and afrihost results must be from the same line tracing to the same server.
True

Like i said - I will try this evening and revert, my average CISP ping to London is about 160-170ms. Currently it is hovering at about 180-190+
 

Loppas

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This is great. Can you trace to Apex Legends 87.117.247.206 from your afrihost account and post the results so we can compare?
I don't have an account yet. We shall see from Fjorko's tests, but its going to be the same result as this looks to be a routing issue.
 

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You are right, but I need to compare oranges with oranges. Meaning that the CISP and afrihost results must be from the same line tracing to the same server.
Same city should surely be sufficient, given all results are via wired network?
 

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True

Like i said - I will try this evening and revert, my average CISP ping to London is about 160-170ms. Currently it is hovering at about 180-190+
Alright, it would be interesting to see the difference. 160-170ms to London is not bad at all.
 

Seeyou

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Ok, that is alright if you are in the same city, but for accurate results, can you trace to 87.117.247.206 and share the results.
With VPN:

Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                                10.8.8.1 -    0 |    6 |    6 |  141 |  141 |  141 |  141 |
|        88.202.231.1.static.midphase.com -    0 |    6 |    6 |  141 |  141 |  141 |  141 |
|      88.202.187.185.static.midphase.com -    0 |    6 |    6 |  141 |  141 |  141 |  141 |
|              be20.asr01.ld5.as20860.net -    0 |    6 |    6 |  142 |  142 |  144 |  143 |
|              be10.asr02.dc5.as20860.net -    0 |    6 |    6 |  142 |  142 |  142 |  142 |
|             po2-30.bor1.dc5.as20860.net -    0 |    6 |    6 |  142 |  142 |  143 |  143 |
|        e1-41.lea102.1uf.dc5.as20860.net -    0 |    6 |    6 |  142 |  142 |  143 |  142 |
|                            87.117.247.1 -    0 |    6 |    6 |  142 |  142 |  143 |  142 |
|                          87.117.247.206 -    0 |    6 |    6 |  142 |  142 |  142 |  142 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
Without VPN:

Code:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                             192.168.1.1 -    0 |    4 |    4 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|         165-73-101-65.ip.afrihost.co.za -    0 |    4 |    4 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
|          169-1-21-201.ip.afrihost.co.za -    0 |    4 |    4 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    1 |
|          77.246.59.84.liquidtelecom.net -    0 |    4 |    4 |    1 |    1 |    1 |    1 |
| te-0-3-0-5.luk-p1-tho.liquidtelecom.net -    0 |    4 |    4 |  140 |  140 |  141 |  140 |
|      be-3.luk-pe1-tho.liquidtelecom.net -    0 |    4 |    4 |  140 |  140 |  141 |  140 |
|            5.11.8.145.liquidtelecom.net -    0 |    4 |    4 |  140 |  140 |  141 |  140 |
|              be20.asr01.ld5.as20860.net -    0 |    4 |    4 |  141 |  142 |  143 |  143 |
|              be10.asr02.dc5.as20860.net -    0 |    4 |    4 |  142 |  142 |  142 |  142 |
|             po2-30.bor1.dc5.as20860.net -    0 |    4 |    4 |  146 |  146 |  146 |  146 |
|      e1-46.lea201.north.dc5.as20860.net -    0 |    4 |    4 |  146 |  146 |  147 |  146 |
|                            87.117.247.1 -    0 |    4 |    4 |  146 |  146 |  147 |  146 |
|                          87.117.247.206 -    0 |    4 |    4 |  141 |  141 |  142 |  141 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
 

Seeyou

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Why would that IP be any more of an "accurate" test than the rest? The problem manifests when traffic leaves London.
 

luckystrike

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The best IP to test and see the difference is the official overwatch/battle.net IP if you are looking for 1 IP to test.

IP:185.60.112.157
 

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jadiwolv

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yes, mac and pc all the same, the problem is you.

also, why am i still complaining about this:
View attachment 702215
random dropouts from your handover, also a new problem when joining you, would just love it if you can just acknowledge you have a problem and stop assuming it's me.
Ditto. I am chatting privateley to @AfriFella for the past week supplying traceroutes upon traceroutes and looking here in the actual thread it seems like the same thing.

Is anything going to get done? I was told the latency on the last liquidtelecom hop shows a routing issue on their side. I am unable to stream twitch higher than 160p on 50/50mbps connection which is just unacceptable.
 

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Ditto. I am chatting privateley to @AfriFella for the past week supplying traceroutes upon traceroutes and looking here in the actual thread it seems like the same thing.

Is anything going to get done? I was told the latency on the last liquidtelecom hop shows a routing issue on their side. I am unable to stream twitch higher than 160p on 50/50mbps connection which is just unacceptable.
Working fine for me though :|
 

wingnut771

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Ditto. I am chatting privateley to @AfriFella for the past week supplying traceroutes upon traceroutes and looking here in the actual thread it seems like the same thing.

Is anything going to get done? I was told the latency on the last liquidtelecom hop shows a routing issue on their side. I am unable to stream twitch higher than 160p on 50/50mbps connection which is just unacceptable.
doubt it as we are just going around in circles, just counting the days until the free part is over (spent too much already chopping and changing isp's) then drop it like a hot potatoe and go back to macrolan/seacom which just worked.
 

jadiwolv

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doubt it as we are just going around in circles, just counting the days until the free part is over (spent too much already chopping and changing isp's) then drop it like a hot potatoe and go back to macrolan/seacom which just worked.
The funny part is, I made a ticket and started talking here on Mybb at the same time. The Mybb staff is fast and helpful (although nothing has actually been done) , while the support ticket staff replied to my ticket a week later, asking if this issue is still relevant.

What a total joke @Afrihost-Gian.

The support staff tells me not to contact Mybb or social and use live chat (almost always offline when i check it) or tickets instead, Mybb staff tells me not to talk to support but talk privately instead.

Meanwhile Jan Piere Wiet is paying R900 a month and cant even stream twitch. My Telkom throw away LTE sim performs 10x better on twitch than my fibre connection. Honestly baffled.
 

jadiwolv

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Working fine for me though :|
Are you insinuating I am lying, wasting my time moaning on a forum (because i just am not getting any support)?

Jeez I feel sorry for the people that dont have access to this thread/Afri guys and have to resort to the support ticket system. It is really bad.
 

Fjorko

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Trace from my USG 1Gbps Network switch to 87.117.247.206 from Afrihost PF Account

traceroute to 87.117.247.206 (87.117.247.206), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 USG (192.168.1.1) 0.818 ms 1.162 ms 1.259 ms
2 * * *
3 cpt-tx2.ip.adsl.co.za (169.1.5.81) 27.761 ms 27.283 ms 29.675 ms
4 cpt-rx1.ip.adsl.co.za (169.1.5.94) 37.889 ms 29.082 ms 29.152 ms
5 cpt-net1.ip.adsl.co.za (169.1.5.128) 22.696 ms 22.181 ms 28.719 ms
6 77.246.59.84.liquidtelecom.net (77.246.59.84) 29.289 ms 28.649 ms 30.863 ms
7 te-0-0-0-7.luk-p1-tho.liquidtelecom.net (5.11.10.156) 170.757 ms te-0-0-0-15.luk-p1-tho.liquidtelecom.net (5.11.10.220) 173.555 ms te-0-0-0-12.luk-p1-tho.liquidtelecom.net (5.11.10.222) 172.562 ms
8 be-3.luk-pe1-tho.liquidtelecom.net (5.11.10.103) 171.480 ms 177.372 ms 178.322 ms
9 xe-0-1-1.0.luk-pr3-tho.liquidtelecom.net (5.11.10.183) 186.645 ms 168.710 ms 5.11.10.95.liquidtelecom.net (5.11.10.95) 172.792 ms
10 be20.asr01.ld5.as20860.net (195.66.226.230) 167.440 ms 169.996 ms 164.667 ms
11 be10.asr02.dc5.as20860.net (130.180.202.47) 178.112 ms 179.436 ms 175.396 ms
12 po4-30.bor2.dc5.as20860.net (212.84.162.156) 181.474 ms 179.054 ms 181.854 ms
13 e1-41.lea101.1uf.dc5.as20860.net (212.84.179.89) 174.887 ms e1-42.lea101.1uf.dc5.as20860.net (212.84.180.249) 176.599 ms e1-41.lea101.1uf.dc5.as20860.net (212.84.179.89) 168.243 ms
14 87.117.247.1 (87.117.247.1) 168.618 ms 169.676 ms 168.569 ms
15 87.117.247.206 (87.117.247.206) 168.120 ms 169.961 ms 170.184 ms

Test to same server from CISP account from same device

traceroute to 87.117.247.206 (87.117.247.206), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 USG (192.168.1.1) 1.556 ms 1.660 ms 2.057 ms
2 * * *
3 192.168.10.5 (192.168.10.5) 23.954 ms 23.175 ms 22.840 ms
4 192.168.11.6 (192.168.11.6) 20.099 ms 26.908 ms 26.468 ms
5 uwx-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.161) 32.614 ms 32.671 ms 26.538 ms
6 uvu-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.4.122) 166.437 ms 168.303 ms 167.799 ms
7 u102-cust.coolideas.co.za (154.0.5.18) 173.939 ms 171.994 ms 172.248 ms
8 be20.asr01.thn.as20860.net (195.66.224.207) 173.670 ms 169.631 ms 166.810 ms
9 be10.asr01.dc5.as20860.net (130.180.202.45) 161.474 ms 162.965 ms 167.836 ms
10 po2-30.bor2.dc5.as20860.net (212.84.162.158) 175.599 ms 173.058 ms 175.324 ms
11 e1-42.lea101.1uf.dc5.as20860.net (212.84.180.249) 169.519 ms e1-46.lea201.north.dc5.as20860.net (212.84.188.10) 167.120 ms 167.083 ms
12 87.117.247.1 (87.117.247.1) 169.636 ms 167.370 ms 169.116 ms
13 87.117.247.206 (87.117.247.206) 169.389 ms 167.583 ms 174.808 ms

You can see Hop 11 ( AH ) and hop 9 ( CISP ) has a diffs of about 17ms. To a gamer i assume this is the difference between a headshot and a shot in $ass.
 
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