Are we still whiners?

The 2010 soccer world cup will happen....but not in South Africa!
Try Germany.
 
And how likely is this now?

http://www.fin24.co.za/articles/default/display_article.aspx?Nav=ns&ArticleID=1518-25_1754196

SA places bets on 2010
Aug 15 2005 11:57 93
Cape Town - South Africa is looking forward to a windfall from hosting the 2010 Soccer World Cup, and hopes other top sports events such as the Rugby World Cup and Formula One racing will follow.

But questions are being asked about who will really benefit from the promised bonanza in a country still bearing the social and economic scars of apartheid.

Urged by Fifa - soccer's world governing body - to bring the event to Africa, the Rainbow Nation won the World Cup bid last year against Morocco and Egypt, thanks in part to concerted campaigning by anti-apartheid icons Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu.

It will be the first time Africa has hosted the event - a chance to prove that it has evolved from a "hopeless continent to a continent of hope," according to organising chief Danny Jordaan.

"We could see a huge charge for investment engagement in South Africa as a result of the World Cup," Jordaan told a recent conference on the business potential of major sporting events.

"2010 will be the most profitable World Cup in the history of Fifa after 100 years. Fifa has a tremendous amount of confidence in the economy, political stability and the institutions of this country," Jordaan.

Fifa will be main winner

However, some say it's Fifa that will be the main winner, taking the cream of the profits thanks to television rights deals worth an anticipated US$2.2bn (R14.14bn) and sponsorship agreements with the likes of foreign giants Adidas and Hyundai.

Butana Komphela, chairperson of parliament's sport and recreation committee, fretted that preference would be given to Fifa sponsors rather than local companies.

"The spin-offs are not as great as we thought," he told parliament last week.

The organising committee forecasts the tournament will create 123 000 new jobs - a boon in a country which suffers nearly 30% unemployment.

It predicts R17bn in new investment and an additional R5.6bn in tax revenue for the government.

Jordaan predicted some 350 000 foreign tourists would flood into the country, compared with the 25 000 who came here for the 1995 Rugby World Cup.

Soccer fans are expected to spend nearly R10bn on merchandise, accommodation, transport and meals, he said.
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Will the 350,000 foreign tourists arrive? If they don't then we are R16bn down right away. And FIFA will also lose out.

If FIFA thinks it will lose too much, they will relocate and we will be left with a bunch of frigates and warplanes to defend a bunch of empty stadiums.
 
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bekdik said:
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Will the 35000 foreign tourists arrive? If they don't then we are R16bn down right away. And FIFA will also lose out.

If FIFA thinks it will lose too much, they will relocate and we will be left with a bunch of frigates and warplanes to defend a bunch of empty stadiums.
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You are making the assumption that our AIDS infested, drunk and slovenly armed forces won't have destroyed said frigates and warplanes by then.
 
marine1 said:
I am laughing my a$$ off at the pro ANC guys who said we are just racists hell bent on this country failing.
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This country failed the moment they forced Affirmative action on the economy.

It was just a question of time before all infrastructure started falling apart.

Did you notice all the new black 4x4 vehicles they are driving?
Maybe they know something we don't?
 
Piepalook said:
This country failed the moment they forced Affirmative action on the economy.

It was just a question of time before all infrastructure started falling apart.

Did you notice all the new black 4x4 vehicles they are driving?
Maybe they know something we don't?
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Power is a visible failure.
Think:
sewage - cannot see that easily from the 'burbs.
water treatment?

I have noticed a marked increase in the number of water pipes bursting in our area the last 6 months. Just in a space of 4 blocks either way of my house there have been at least 10 - the same one has broken 5 times this last 2 months. One a little bit up the road from us (on an uphill) has been broken at the house mains at least 6 times in the last year. Surely, if you replace a pipe, it should be "as good as new" afterwards?

Roads falling to pieces is also common - and visible. The patchwork effect is amusing - until you consider the cost of repairing it badly each time.
There is a shopping centre a few kms from me, where the road develops a pothole in the same place, everytime there is major rainfall. And it has been doing that for at least 8 years - ever since I moved to this area.
Last week I drove past, and a small section of tar had come loose - probably a nice big hole by today.

Anyone with a modicum of honesty can see things are not done right.
 
marine1 said:
I have said it 1000 times before, Water is the next collapse here.
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Yeah I've been hearing the same thing from people in the know. Granted it was years ago but like Eskom it starts off slow and snowballs into disaster.
 
sandmanm34 said:
How come? Electricity dependant purification plants?
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No "purification" plants,sorry,
Yes they use electricity in the sewage dams.
Firstly, they sieve the big solids and discard that.

Next, the process involves a turning paddle in a round dam to mix whatever solids remain.

Then a flocculant gets added to the sewage,in order to get the solids to sink to the bottom.

Chlorine gets added to the water to kill bacteria.
After this, lime gets added to make the water clear.

This "cocktail" is then added (diluted) with clean water from rivers and dams.
Then the water gets pumped to reservoirs in your suburb for you to enjoy.

When there is a powerfailure,this process cannot happen and raw sewage can only go two ways:

Into the river (for people to drink downstream) or into your drinking water.

You have to realise that people use toilets all the time.There is a constant inflow into the sewage dams.

This is scary and the thought of having to write this is giving me the jeeeebies.
 
bekdik said:
One would think that the plants have power backup?
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As they say, assumptions are the mother of all **** ups..

Me water treatment plant owner - I've big assed pumps, but I assume Eskom will always give me power to run them, after all I had their CEO round last week to look at my new beemer and gave him a bottle of hand crafted single malt distilled from grain from the hanging gardens of Babylon which was a bonus for coming into work everyday last week..
 
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