Article: No white men for SAA cadet program: union

Musicmp3 said:
Whites not good for anything it seems.

Only to pay our taxes and keep the ANC thieves afloat. I see they dont discriminate here!

Racists morons!
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Let's be honest and state facts. They are discriminating against white men not whites. White women are doing very well and benefitting immensely from EE policies. SAA just doesn't like white men.
 
rza said:
I read the thread. It's not black people who are discriminating against white men, it's SAA that is doing that.
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Likewise it's not white people discriminating against blacks in the platinum industry - it's the mining companies.

SAA leadership
Monwabisi Kalawe - Chief Executive Officer
Wolf Meyer - Chief Financial Officer
Sandile Dlamini - Company Secretary
Phinda Ncala - Chief Information Officer
Thuli Mpshe - General Manager: Human Resources
Zuks Ramasia - General Manager: Operations
Ursula Fikelepi - General Manager: Legal, Risk & Compliance
Kendy Phohleli - General Manager: Commercial (Interim)
Tleli Makhetha - General Manager: SAA Cargo
Musa Zwane - Chief Executive Officer: SAA Technical
Martin Kemp - Chief Executive Officer (Interim): Airchefs
Nico Bezuidenhout - Chief Executive Officer: Mango
Bulelwa Koyana - Chief Executive Officer: SATC

http://www.flysaa.com/za/en/footerlinks/aboutUs/saaLeadership.html
 
rza said:
What does black people have to do with the recruitment policy of SAA?
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Paul_S said:
Likewise it's not white people discriminating against blacks in the platinum industry - it's the mining companies.

SAA leadership
Monwabisi Kalawe - Chief Executive Officer
Wolf Meyer - Chief Financial Officer
Sandile Dlamini - Company Secretary
Phinda Ncala - Chief Information Officer
Thuli Mpshe - General Manager: Human Resources
Zuks Ramasia - General Manager: Operations
Ursula Fikelepi - General Manager: Legal, Risk & Compliance
Kendy Phohleli - General Manager: Commercial (Interim)
Tleli Makhetha - General Manager: SAA Cargo
Musa Zwane - Chief Executive Officer: SAA Technical
Martin Kemp - Chief Executive Officer (Interim): Airchefs
Nico Bezuidenhout - Chief Executive Officer: Mango
Bulelwa Koyana - Chief Executive Officer: SATC

http://www.flysaa.com/za/en/footerlinks/aboutUs/saaLeadership.html
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There you go. Thanks to the curtsy of Paul and do not underrate the power of the racist ANC government forcing these racist issues! After 20 years they could not break the white male's spirit and ingenuity for survival and maintaining what they had so drastic actions must be in order.

Waiting for the ANC all white male castration orders! :D
 
Spliffcat said:
Well, let us know!!!
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http://www.jacanaent.com/Library/Articles/FlyingSAA.htm

The company outsourced the training program to (the much more expensive) British Aerospace centre in Australia.

The theory was to put cadet pilots through their paces far from the seemingly ever-present possibility of “racism” and produce a string of high-flying black pilots...

Unfortunately, almost none of the black cadet pilots made it through the Australian training, and were sent home.

This caused great unhappiness in SAA management which, in July 2002, decided to bring pilot training back to South Africa, where blacks might not fail tests in such great numbers.

The few black pilots who made it through the course in Australia were appointed at once to senior posts, but suffered a serious setback in 2000, when seven – that is to say almost all of them – were arrested on charges of bribing their way through the Civil Aviation examination paper that put them at the controls of passenger-jets.

The pilots each paid approximately ZAR7,000 (US$1,100) to get a copy of the Airline Transport Pilots License examination paper before taking the test. Two non-white members of South Africa’s Civil Aviation Authority were also arrested along with the pilots. Two of the pilots were found guilty but fled the country before sentencing, and the rest were suspended.

However when the cases of the remaining five came to court, the files had “disappeared” and the charges had to be dropped “for lack of evidence”.

The parliamentary opposition tried to launch an investigation into this failure to prosecute, but that came to nothing. Today, many of these pilots are back flying for SAA.
 
Taranis said:
http://www.jacanaent.com/Library/Articles/FlyingSAA.htm

The company outsourced the training program to (the much more expensive) British Aerospace centre in Australia.

The theory was to put cadet pilots through their paces far from the seemingly ever-present possibility of “racism” and produce a string of high-flying black pilots...

Unfortunately, almost none of the black cadet pilots made it through the Australian training, and were sent home.

This caused great unhappiness in SAA management which, in July 2002, decided to bring pilot training back to South Africa, where blacks might not fail tests in such great numbers.

The few black pilots who made it through the course in Australia were appointed at once to senior posts, but suffered a serious setback in 2000, when seven – that is to say almost all of them – were arrested on charges of bribing their way through the Civil Aviation examination paper that put them at the controls of passenger-jets.

The pilots each paid approximately ZAR7,000 (US$1,100) to get a copy of the Airline Transport Pilots License examination paper before taking the test. Two non-white members of South Africa’s Civil Aviation Authority were also arrested along with the pilots. Two of the pilots were found guilty but fled the country before sentencing, and the rest were suspended.

However when the cases of the remaining five came to court, the files had “disappeared” and the charges had to be dropped “for lack of evidence”.

The parliamentary opposition tried to launch an investigation into this failure to prosecute, but that came to nothing. Today, many of these pilots are back flying for SAA.
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Oh my God! How is that even possible! Sorry R13, do your homework better!

Hahahahaha!
 
Jola said:
That used to be the case, not sure that it is still correct.
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Not so much anymore. I recall some legislation changed somewhere along the lines. So it's now purely based on skin colour. White paper with black pens is out, it's now black paper with white pens.
 
Seriously said:
Oh my God! How is that even possible! Sorry R13, do your homework better!

Hahahahaha!
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Lol, guess I didn't have all of the info - I knew the program wasn't very successful but I had no info to back it up. Can't believe how this failure gives you such a hard on. Well I do know why it does
 
So the black pilots did a showerhead bwahaha. Will never fly SAA.
 
Taranis said:
http://www.jacanaent.com/Library/Articles/FlyingSAA.htm

Unfortunately, almost none of the black cadet pilots made it through the Australian training, and were sent home.

The few black pilots who made it through the course in Australia were appointed at once to senior posts, but suffered a serious setback in 2000, when seven – that is to say almost all of them – were arrested on charges of bribing their way through the Civil Aviation examination paper that put them at the controls of passenger-jets.
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A friend of mine (who is a pilot) told me of similar experiences he had when he was a flight instructor a few years back.

He was getting some serious heat due to the number of "non-white" cadet pilots he was failing. He said a lot of them didn't even know or study up on even the basic pre-flight checks and procedures but yet they expect him to trust them behind the yoke...and still pass them?!

He was also offered bribes on several occasions.

Typical "African" mentality...if you can't achieve something the correct/right and honest way, just buy it.
 
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R13... said:
Lol, guess I didn't have all of the info - I knew the program wasn't very successful but I had no info to back it up. Can't believe how this failure gives you such a hard on. Well I do know why it does
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No my hard on was conversing with and thinking about YOU! ;) Cannot even get that right! :p
 
HiToKiRi said:
A friend of mine (who is a pilot) told me of similar experiences he had when he was a flight instructor a few years back.

He was getting some serious heat due to the number of "non-white" cadet pilots he was failing. He said a lot of them didn't even know or study up on even the basic pre-flight checks and procedures but yet they expect him to trust them behind the yoke...and still pass them?!

He was also offered bribes on several occasions.

Typical "African" mentality...if you can't achieve something the correct/right and honest way, just buy it.
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I believe part of the trouble is students arrive without the enthusiasm for flying. To them it was an opportunity to get training & employment. Little did they know how much work was involved.

I pity the instructor who is supervising say 20 students and few are ready to make the grade and he is under pressure to get them through in the alotted time. He doesn't want the senior guys to think he's not being effective, but at the same time he doesn't want them to crash on their first solo flight.
 
R13... said:
Lol, guess I didn't have all of the info - I knew the program wasn't very successful but I had no info to back it up. Can't believe how this failure gives you such a hard on. Well I do know why it does
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You have it a wrong.
You were close to this topic and didn't even realise the truth.

It just proves the facts of complete reverse racism and apartheid in this country and you still refuse to accept or acknowledge that.

I didn't even need to do my research to know what really happened
 
who cares who they restrict from applying, as long as those applying, pass with the relevant distinction required to be a pilot, and not one watered down in order to pass them.

Race is irrelevant, pass rates are.
 
They wouldn't allow Capt. Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger into the programme... Is that sane or fair? Imagine he was never allowed to be a pilot.
 
Ninja'd said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:South_African_Airways_accidents_and_incidents
Whites - 4
Blacks, Indians, coloureds, Chinese - 0
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A bit pointless without context (like how many black pilots where flying for SAA pre-1994?).
You'd need a crashes per race per number of flying hours (or flights) to even start to comparing.
Even then it would be useless unless the relevance of fleet age, operator's sub standard maintenance levels, substandard training, pilot currency, etc. is brought into the picture.
 
Surv0 said:
who cares who they restrict from applying, as long as those applying, pass with the relevant distinction required to be a pilot, and not one watered down in order to pass them.

Race is irrelevant, pass rates are.
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My thoughts exactly. Which is really the point of AA.
 
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