Article: Outrage after FW de Klerk CNN interview

wily me said:
Do you want some "?????" to get a heart attack? They believe they "won" the revolution not that the whites decided as a majority and agreed to a new dispensation. But many idiots will not see it in that way :D
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Most of them "?????" were still in nappies at that point in time... no wonder their view of history is a bit skewed! ;)
 
Sheesh Gary I was just starting to have fun and now you go and try to kill everyone willing to play with me off.

You know they are already exhausted and fragile having to defend the anc at every turn and now you want to take away their last dim little star in the night sky, their last hope, their Obiwan, their . . . . . . . , naah I can't do it, go for it Gary, they have to know it's a lie, rip that bandaid or they will end up sitting and crying in a corner hugging their t-shirt and empty kfc box all day for the rest of their lives once they realize it themselves through hardship in 10 years.

Help them, help them now ! :)
 
Garyvdh said:
No, I was one of those that voted to end it.
It is true they were backed into a corner. It was time to end it. There was no other choice. The other option was no longer an option.
But however you look at it... FW was the one who was sailing the ship at that point in time.
So he is the one who gets the accolades.
And he did a pretty good job of it.
Hence the world recognising what he did (along with Mandela).
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Agreed, I have no beef with FW, he made the right decision. Imagine if the groot krokodil didn't have that stroke.
 
Hey, leave P.W. alone, he was the best at waving a finger, no one else could satisfy a whole countries women at the same time like he could by just lifting a single finger and he didn't even have to be in the room, just on tv, not even Zuma can claim that :)

And he had gangsta dress sense, that hat, man that guy had style ;)
 
Fudzy said:
Agreed, I have no beef with FW, he made the right decision. Imagine if the groot krokodil didn't have that stroke.
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I was only 19 when he retired and FW got in... but I remember hating PW Botha with a passion and my father criticising him all the time.
It was providential that he had to retire at that point in time.
 
wily me said:
They believe they "won" the revolution not that the whites decided as a majority and agreed to a new dispensation. But many idiots will not see it in that way :D
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They only thing they won was the propaganda war and that was directed from Moscow who also ran the Anti Apartheid Movement.

The "brave fighters" of the ANC etc never had the balls to attack military installations and preferred soft targets like bars and churches and they couldn't even do those properly. Look at St James Church where one guy with .32 chased off the gang armed with grenades and automatic weapons.

Life on the border farms was a lot safer then than now because the ANC recognized that the commando system was efficient and worked. Why do you think it was dismantled so soon after 1994?

Only to give their gutless cadres some sense of security when they wanted to go into business for themselves and attack individual farms.
 
There is little doubt that the Apartheid army could have kept the system going for many more years, Umkhonto was just a powder puff movement best at blowing up Wimpy's and killing innocent people. And in SA there would have been no breaking up of the army as in, for example, Libya, Syria, etc.

That said, the NP, and most whites, realised that the cost of continuing this system was too high, and decided to end it.

It was a good decision, just a pity that the ANC governments since 1999 have been really poor and corrupt, and one can just hope that this will change and that someone like Mandela will rise through the ANC ranks - that does appear unlikely though, the party appears to attract and promote these corrupt and incompetent politicians.
 
He tone if many posts here seem to indicate a regret that apartheid finally collapsed. Fellow, prosperous South Africans who want to find consolation in apartheid... As usual many of you have the analytical, critical, and/or historical facts wrong.
 
WatchMan said:
The tone in [-]many[/-] SOME posts here seem to indicate a regret that apartheid finally collapsed. Fellow, prosperous South Africans who want to find consolation in apartheid... As usual many of you have the analytical, critical, and/or historical facts wrong.
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FTFY
 
Just read the transcripts of the interview. It was in English. Not that difficult to comprehend.......


Why are people jumping to conclusions ?
 
DrYes said:
He didn't have much of a choice did he.He did not do what he believed but rather what he was told to do to avoid an all out civil war.
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Of course he had a choice... just like every State President before him.

The rest of your comment is just pure speculation and flies in the face of the facts.
 
DrYes said:
He didn't have much of a choice did he.He did not do what he believed but rather what he was told to do to avoid an all out civil war.
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There was an actual civil war at the time, fortunately the cops mostly used rubber bullets.
 
alf101 said:
There was an actual civil war at the time, fortunately the cops mostly used rubber bullets.
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Yeah while the ANC used weapons supplies by soviets and the IFP used weapons supplied by the Nats.
 
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