Highly doubt he will stick with his "retirement" plans. A fight against the winner of Joshua Usyk II would be highly lucrative. Can't see him turning that down.
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Wrap in a "spoiler" next time.. I read the first sentence then fortunately stopped, nearly got the result before I watched.
That said was a one side affair was hoping for more of a chess match or at least a brawl. Good fight in any event. Still wondering if it was reach or the size of the occasion that made it so one sided.
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I haven't watched heavy weight boxing in years but did last night.
The highlight for me was watching the out of sync miming of their entry track, as the boxers entered the arena.
Whyte was uncoordinated, slow, had a poor work rate and was unable to string together any meaningful combinations. I don't think he landed a single punch of any significance. He hit the canvass harder than he hit Tyson. Talk about a glass jaw?
I'm sorry but if this is the best boxing has to offer, I'm out.
The highlight for me was watching the out of sync miming of their entry track, as the boxers entered the arena.
Whyte was uncoordinated, slow, had a poor work rate and was unable to string together any meaningful combinations. I don't think he landed a single punch of any significance. He hit the canvass harder than he hit Tyson. Talk about a glass jaw?
I'm sorry but if this is the best boxing has to offer, I'm out.
sand_man
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I grew up in an era watching the likes of Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Thomas Hearns, Frank Bruno, Evander Holyfield...
I'd sooner watch butterbean than the likes of Whyte and Fury.
Sorry, but it was utter rubbish.
I'd sooner watch butterbean than the likes of Whyte and Fury.
Sorry, but it was utter rubbish.
I don't think Bruno belongs with the rest of those guys.
sand_man
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You probably right. Let's replace him with Riddick Bowe.I don't think Bruno belongs with the rest of those guys.
That reminds me. That was a great trilogy between him and Holyfield. Especially that first fight. Two highly skilled fighters giving it everything they had.
thestaggy
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I don't think Bruno belongs with the rest of those guys.
Man, Bruno never gets the respect he deserves.
He is one of the heaviest hitting heavyweights of all time, with only 5 of his 45 fights going beyond half distance, stopping his opponent in 38 of his 40 wins. He was only ever taken full distance twice in 45 fights, with all of his his losses coming against reigning, former or future world champions..
Heavy handed. He definitely packed quite a punch but he lacked athleticism and fluidity. He was very stiff, and towards the end of his career he bulked up significantly and became too musclebound.
He had a tendency to drop his hands when caught. No instinct whatsoever when hurt other than to just stand there frozen in the spot and ship punishment. But he was one of the bravest and most determined fighters of his era, he always came in shape and ready to fight (with the exception of the Tyson rematch), and his heart was never in question.
He was not "elite" level though, IMO. Certainly not in the conversation with the very top heavyweights of his era. The fact that he eventually captured a version of the world title says more about the proliferation of belts and dilution of their worth than about his abilities at world title level.
thestaggy
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It was only the ''Big Three'' titles floating about for much of his career - IBF, WBC and WBA. Hardly a proliferation.
Also the small matter that between Tyson, Holyfield and Douglas, for 5 straight years all three belts were held by one boxer, so that limited title opportunities.
Of interest, in losses against Smith, Witherspoon and Lewis, he was leading on points. Tyson being the only fighter to have ever had the upper-hand over him all the way through, and he was also the first man to visibly wobble prime Tyson.
Seriously underappreciated and for a time the Great British Hope for a world heavyweight title before Lennox.
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Looked like a clip and then the push dropped him... ref should have called a foul and given him 5 mins.
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ja, some how didnt look like whyte came to win... he LITERALLY walked into that uppercut... if you're in range, you better throw something...Wrap in a "spoiler" next time.. I read the first sentence then fortunately stopped, nearly got the result before I watched.
That said was a one side affair was hoping for more of a chess match or at least a brawl. Good fight in any event. Still wondering if it was reach or the size of the occasion that made it so one sided.
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go and check out the povetkin and aj uppercuts and compare to tysons glancing blow... it grazed him at best
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Pushing with gloves is a foul?
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Whyte was falling in to Fury after having his world rocked. Fury just pushed a falling sack of potatoes off of him. The man barely made 8 and then fell in to the ropes, having to be propped up by the ref. He was counting stars and no push can cause that.
And pushing happens, a lot, in boxing. Especially when one fighter is trying to clinch/lean on you/fight inside and the other one is trying to avoid that.
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It was a foul. But there are often small pushes in boxing to break away, get distance, stop someone leaning on you etc.
To be fair, Whyte was done and if Fury had swung instead of doing a bit of a push, it would have been very ugly.
Sure, its technically illegal, but Whyte was out and it wasnt because of that.
He lost, he never looked like he was going to win and honestly must go brush up some more and just let Fury fight Joshua / Usyk so the man can retire.
To be fair, Whyte was done and if Fury had swung instead of doing a bit of a push, it would have been very ugly.
Sure, its technically illegal, but Whyte was out and it wasnt because of that.
He lost, he never looked like he was going to win and honestly must go brush up some more and just let Fury fight Joshua / Usyk so the man can retire.
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115 - 113 is shocking! canelo won 3 rounds at best.
I'm glad he lost, been saying for a while that he aint as good as advertised. And lets also be honest, Bivol isnt elite. That should say enough.
Edit: Lemme just also say, by no means should this take any shine off Bivol and the way he fought. Congrats to him.
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Bivol is very good, I am not so sure Beterbiev will beat him.
I think the loss is good, it will be interesting to see what Canelo does, I dont think he will get as much from it as the Mayweather loss.
Canelo is very very good, but this jump in weight nullified a lot of him. His power wasnt there and Bivol hurt him early on, he looked unsure after that. The jab alone was a problem for him, harder than he has had before and he really struggled with it.
He gassed towards the end as well and to be honest, his shots had nothing in them. Bivol was really cautious and probably could have been a bit more aggressive without worrying too much.
They shouldnt invoke the rematch, I dont think it will go well, but lets see. I really enjoyed the fight, I reckon Canelo won 3 rounds, which isnt great.
Hearn is going to do his best to steer away from this rematch
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