Getting set for a wireless war

Gaz{M} said:
Thanks everyone for your amazing suggestions. I'm sure you understand the telecomms industry better than anyone else. These morons obviously need to hire you and put you in charge of all the decision-making.
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If they offered me the job, I would most certainly take it with a smile! But until then, let the best judge be the one on the side line...

Honestly, this forum is just becoming a little basement club for passive aggressive people to bitch about telecomms, like a bunch of religious zealots.
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Welcome to the basement club seeing that you yourself are enjoying a good old "BITCHIN' " session! May your stay here be pleasant! Passive aggressive people? Thats so sweet... We won't be passive if Telkom listened and we most certainly won't be aggressive if they did something about it! :D Being passive aggressive is exercising my right to be a human being!

Telkom tends to start a lot of projects in a desperate attempt to reclaim monopoly over telecoms and in doing so (with a MAJOR lack in judgement and management) they end up with a lot of half finished project lingering in the middle of nowhere with the intent of going absolutely nowhere... So they start a new one with the hopes that it will just magically take off and be great! I completely agree with all of you that they should rather take one technology and PERFECT it as far as possible and be exceptionally great at it, then to start a couple and be poor at it... AH CRAP! Am I being passive aggressive again? :confused:
 
This thread is spammed. Let’s focus on the actual product and hope that Telkom might actually view the constructive advice rather than the personal agenda’s… (P.S. get a blog)

3G Telkom using your existing modem = Wow (would be great getting HSUPA on my E220)
Using all access (ADSL account on 3G) = fantastic

This could possibly mean that I can cancel my existing 3G contract and use my DO 3 account on 3G. To add this could also suggest that a contract is not required if you can use your existing modem. This will also intimidate our cell providers to stop their ridiculous “upgrade contract profit model” to lock-in BW users.

Imagine using local BW on Fixed and International on 3G, this could give us the option to split our BW without using route sentry or router.

Currently I pay R500 a month for 2gig (with addon of R289 for 1 gig int). Imagine just buying an additional account for R239 and get 3int and 30 local on 3G. WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW. To add imagine using 2 concurrent DO accounts: Depleting the one on local only and the other on int. this would halve my current expenses on SAIX BW.
 
vxv said:
3G Telkom using your existing modem = Wow (would be great getting HSUPA on my E220)
Using all access (ADSL account on 3G) = fantastic

This could possibly mean that I can cancel my existing 3G contract and use my DO 3 account on 3G. To add this could also suggest that a contract is not required if you can use your existing modem. This will also intimidate our cell providers to stop their ridiculous “upgrade contract profit model” to lock-in BW users.

Imagine using local BW on Fixed and International on 3G, this could give us the option to split our BW without using route sentry or router.

Currently I pay R500 a month for 2gig (with addon of R289 for 1 gig int). Imagine just buying an additional account for R239 and get 3int and 30 local on 3G. WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW. To add imagine using 2 concurrent DO accounts: Depleting the one on local only and the other on int. this would halve my current expenses on SAIX BW.
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All access = fantastic agree
stop their ridiculous "upgrade contract profit model" = Soe ur optimistic today
Cost coming down = You had some serious happy pills this moring

When will this product actually get to the consumer = 2010 if you're lucky, you will have wimax coverage by then(we hope)
 
Vegeta said:
All access = fantastic agree
stop their ridiculous "upgrade contract profit model" = Soe ur optimistic today
Cost coming down = You had some serious happy pills this moring

When will this product actually get to the consumer = 2010 if you're lucky, you will have wimax coverage by then(we hope)
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I'm cancelling my 3G end of this year. I can promise you I will find a 3G / HSDPA / HSUPA connection account from someone, without a contract at competitive rates. :) That’s how optimistic I am.

Using Telkom all access would suit me as they still give me the best account and speed on my SAIX 4mg ADSL 3 int 30 local.

Contract is a dying business model. In the current economic chaos, legal obligations in years will only be viable for a house or car especially when it comes to BW.

Regarding the costs, if Telkom just stick to their current BW costs, it would still be significantly cheaper.

I understand WiMax is still a bit slow…I hope this product would be released this year.
 
Competition Issues

If Telkom launches anything that effects unfair business practice, abuse of market position. Abuse over control of Sat3. Voda & MTN will take them up on it with the CC & Icasa. So they will remain within the current pricing on 3G and will offer some discounts on bundles but nothing to drastic. I expect them to undercut the current bundled offers by 25% which will be good 4 the existing 3G users as MTN & Voda will try 2 match if not better the prices 2 keep people from running 2 Telkom.
Expect :
R129 = 500megs
R219 = 1 Gig
R299 = 2 Gigs
R349 = 3 Gigs
R899 = 10 Gigs
:)

DxL - Mobile
 
Strong argument, however to add some potential benefits:

-Local BW on Int BW purchased
-All access (using an ADSL account on 3G)
-Discount if you are already a Telkom ADSL client
-No contract
-Using existing modem
-Intimidating competition
 
@vxv & dxl
Heres hoping that any of you two are proven right in the end. Hold on to your dreams!
Heres hoping i wont have to say "told you so"

Even if all else fails at least there will now be 3 market players offering 3G which can never be a bad thing
 
Vegeta said:
@vxv & dxl
Heres hoping that any of you two are proven right in the end. Hold on to your dreams!
Heres hoping i wont have to say "told you so"

Even if all else fails at least there will now be 3 market players offering 3G which can never be a bad thing
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:)
 
Paul_S said:
This could be very interesting if Telkom charge the same for 3G data as they do for WiMax and ADSL. Sure they may make the rental high but that could be great for people who use lots of bandwidth.
MTN and Vodacom are rapping their customers with their data prices.

The nice thing is most people don't care about keeping their data sim number which means that they can easily jump ship to Telkom if it looks more attractive. That will certainly put pressure on MTN and Vodacom.
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If they can sell the high speed UMTS/HSDPA usb modem for cheaper than vodacom, hell yes. pop in a prepaid sim, buy the Gigabytes by R70 a shot. Could be better, but still cheaper than R389 for 2GB from vodacom.
 
Some executive got a hardcore braincramp there.

What the hell makes them think they can go up against VC & MTN...who have a set network, years of experience and a huge customer base.:rolleyes: And its not like Telkom doesn't have enough on its plate already. They should roll out fiber & wimax and leave the rest...not a bit of fiber, a bit of copper, some wimax and then 3g too.
 
HavocXphere said:
Some executive got a hardcore braincramp there.

What the hell makes them think they can go up against VC & MTN...who have a set network, years of experience and a huge customer base.:rolleyes: And its not like Telkom doesn't have enough on its plate already. They should roll out fiber & wimax and leave the rest...not a bit of fiber, a bit of copper, some wimax and then 3g too.
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I hear you.

If I may mention, the fact that they compete is good. Any pressure on monopolies is needed (even if it’s from Telkom.lol)

Regarding the wireless product, I don’t really see any value other than improved latency mobile and cheaper. I’ll stick to my fixed if I want to warp. :)
 
HavocXphere said:
What the hell makes them think they can go up against VC & MTN.
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Yeah, anyone wanting to compete with VC & MTN should just slink off into the undergrowth. After all, R200 a gig is dirt cheap. No way anyone could compete with those give away prices. Eh?
 
Gatecrasher said:
Yeah, anyone wanting to compete with VC & MTN should just slink off into the undergrowth. After all, R200 a gig is dirt cheap. No way anyone could compete with those give away prices. Eh?
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How is Vodacom treating you, any kick-back? lol :)
 
Telkom needs a long term exit plan from Vodacom, introducing hsdpa and 'fixed mobile' is one strategy to create a mobile capable network and when the time come convert straight to full mobile using the existing 'new' network.

This actually makes great sense if you're a telkom shareholder, you get the captal injection from the sale of vodacom and the very likely possibility to leapfrog all the operators with a substantially reduced pricing model.

Telkom might well be pleased if contract times and handset subsidies are reduced as this may create the momentum they need to migrate the high yield contract subscriber base to their network when considered in light of a tripple play type service with mobile/data and fix line.

Just IMHO of course.

D
 
I think this is a good thing and supprisingly i am hoping they have a set rental fee for access bit. :eek: 4 real. This may sound stupid at first but if they set the price to a resonable one + allow it to be the same as ADSL, i.e. you can interconnect with your ADSL vpn/pppoe accounts, then i must say, vodacom + mtn's reign on data costs are gonna faulter fast.
Just because a singular solution will ALWAYS work out better, heck can you imagine if Telkom package deals with ADSL + pots + 3G/hspa(as a back up haha imagine the maketing) solution to companies??
 
Ya ya.. heard it all before. Problem is a huge proportion of the potential users wont touch telkom with somebody else's 10 foot barge pole. And, knowing telkom it will be overpriced and with a ridiculously low cap and will take 8 months to install.
 
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