LCD and Plasma Bargains and Discussions thread

PostmanPot said:
Of course it does, it's no conspiracy though. CRT is irrelevant, we are talking FLAT SCREEN technology.

I think we'd all appreciate it if you'd kindly contribute facts opposed to nonsense.

Remember that 90% of consumers are not as schooled as we are.

You continue to show us your incapability of putting yourself in their shoes.
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Actually I think that would be you, you also seem to think everyone is a moron and believe that plasma was killed cause of the evil corporation instead of it being old and outdated.
 
Lupus said:
Actually I think that would be you, you also seem to think everyone is a moron and believe that plasma was killed cause of the evil corporation instead of it being old and outdated.
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Furthermore, it is clear that you have not yet awoken to the times we live in nowadays and the control the corporations have on this modern world, and their reliance on us plebs in order to keep them afloat.

Profit, profit, profit.

At the expense of quality and consumer benefits.

You've already admitted that plasma is a superior technology, you ought to think twice before playing this game again and contradicting yourself with nonsense such as "instead of it being old and outdated."
 
Sparkz why don't you put a movie or 2 on a flash drive and go demo all the TV's you are eyeing in store?
 
PostmanPot said:
Furthermore, it is clear that you have not yet awoken to the times we live in nowadays and the control the corporations have on this modern world, and their reliance on us plebs in order to keep them afloat.

Profit, profit, profit.

At the expense of quality and consumer benefits.

You've already admitted that plasma is a superior technology, you ought to think twice before playing this game again and contradicting yourself with nonsense such as "instead of it being old and outdated."
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I never said it was superior tech I said it once had superior pq like CRT did in the past, but like CRT it isn't viable anymore. Could you imagine the costs of building a big 4k plasma?
 
Lupus said:
I never said it was superior tech I said it once had superior pq like CRT did in the past, but like CRT it isn't viable anymore. Could you imagine the costs of building a big 4k plasma?
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Yes you did. Doesn't matter, it's an undeniable fact.

No I cannot, we have no bearing because the industry invested in the production (and efficiency) of high res LCD opposed to plasma, due to its lower production (and transport) cost which is more profitable.

It's all about them, and it has nothing to do with benefitting the consumer.

Yet the consumer is under the false impression that they have benefitted, due to the power of marketing (and TV shopping in Massmart stores).

In any case, high quality FHD is much better than low quality UHD. UHD and otherwise resolution obsession is another fallacy used to trick the ignorant.

The manufacturers are running out of innovation, and need us to keep buying. :)
 
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Groupon has 20% off all goods using code GOODS20, So the plasma can now be bought for R7919... Crazy price.
 
shaunbrookes said:
Groupon has 20% off all goods using code GOODS20, So the plasma can now be bought for R7919... Crazy price.
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That's very tempting, I'm just afraid the size will be too overwhelming at my viewing distance. If it was a 51" I would have leapt at this. Also bit worried about screen reflection and screen looking grey during day time. Any of you guys who bought this T care to do a bit of a review on these two points?
 
Effjh said:
That's very tempting, I'm just afraid the size will be too overwhelming at my viewing distance. If it was a 51" I would have leapt at this. Also bit worried about screen reflection and screen looking grey during day time. Any of you guys who bought this T care to do a bit of a review on these two points?
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Agreed, 51" and I'd have taken it!

Reflection will be an issue, it's not something you can escape even by going LCD (though LCD is slightly better and less reflective, brighter too which benefits bright viewing environments, mostly daytime viewing, etc.), as they all use reflective screens nowadays in order to compete better in the shops. Reflective/glossy screens make for better picture quality, put a glossy LCD next to a matte (non glossy) LCD and most consumers would walk out with the glossy one because it looks better. Light/colours are not obstructed, as they are with a matte finish.

This is why we don't see matte finished LCD TVs any more, because it puts models/brands at a disadvantage compared to models/brands using glossy finishes, therefore fewer sales, lower profit, etc.

Not sure what you mean by looking grey?
 
PostmanPot said:
Agreed, 51" and I'd have taken it!

Reflection will be an issue, it's not something you can escape even by going LCD (though LCD is slightly better and less reflective, brighter too which benefits bright viewing environments, mostly daytime viewing, etc.), as they all use reflective screens nowadays in order to compete better in the shops. Reflective/glossy screens make for better picture quality, put a glossy LCD next to a matte (non glossy) LCD and most consumers would walk out with the glossy one because it looks better. Light/colours are not obstructed, as they are with a matte finish.

This is why we don't see matte finished LCD TVs any more, because it puts models/brands at a disadvantage compared to models/brands using glossy finishes, therefore fewer sales, lower profit, etc.

Not sure what you mean by looking grey?
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Thanks for your reply. Yes I can't stand glossy TV, laptop screens in general, always go matte.hehe

As for the grey, I have read about it, but haven't seen it myself, so that's why I'm asking. Apparently in brighter environments, like during the day with light hitting the layer of phosfor on screen directly, the blacks appear more grey. Kind of opposite of what happens to LCD in darker environments. This screen is quite large, so there is a lot of area that can be hit by light directly, hence wondering if any of the guys who own the TV have experienced this.
 
Effjh said:
Thanks for your reply. Yes I can't stand glossy TV, laptop screens in general, always go matte.hehe

As for the grey, I have read about it, but haven't seen it myself, so that's why I'm asking. Apparently in brighter environments, like during the day with light hitting the layer of phosfor on screen directly, the blacks appear more grey. Kind of opposite of what happens to LCD in darker environments. This screen is quite large, so there is a lot of area that can be hit by light directly, hence wondering if any of the guys who own the TV have experienced this.
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What sort of light are we talking? Do you have direct sunlight light falling on your TV? When and for how long?
 
PostmanPot said:
What sort of light are we talking? Do you have direct sunlight light falling on your TV? When and for how long?
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Your question, actually kinda answers my question already. The only way you could really know if it will be an issue is to have the TV in your specific viewing environment and see.

I do have an annoying kitchen window that is directly in line with the TV, it doesn't bother me on current screen (matte), even with blinds pulled it leaks lights around sides. Can imagine this being an issue. Night time will be fine though, never watch TV with lights on. Just soft lighting in corner next to TV.
 
Effjh said:
Your question, actually kinda answers my question already. The only way you could really know if it will be an issue is to have the TV in your specific viewing environment and see.

I do have an annoying kitchen window that is directly in line with the TV, it doesn't bother me on current screen (matte), even with blinds pulled it leaks lights around sides. Can imagine this being an issue. Night time will be fine though, never watch TV with lights on. Just soft lighting in corner next to TV.
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Reckon you'll be hundreds, but you may want to replace the blind with a curtain.

That said, usually small bits of light being reflected on TVs go unnoticed after a few days.

Seeing as you watch mostly at night, and without the lights on/bright, plasma is ideal for you.

If you watched mainly during the day, had a large door/window without a blind/curtain behind you, or enjoyed watching TV with lights on (let's be honest, these types do exist), I'd have suggested LCD.
 
As fair as I know plasma televisions are power hungry units. When plasma TV's was popular the Uk wanted to ban the sale of plasma sets, because of the power consumption issue. Before buying a tv set look at the info label at the back of tv sets, especially the power consumption, it does vary from manufacturer to manufacturer for the same size sets.
 
samkruger said:
As fair as I know plasma televisions are power hungry units. When plasma TV's was popular the Uk wanted to ban the sale of plasma sets, because of the power consumption issue. Before buying a tv set look at the info label at the back of tv sets, especially the power consumption, it does vary from manufacturer to manufacturer for the same size sets.
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For plasmas that was made 10 years ago...
 
PostmanPot said:
Reckon you'll be hundreds, but you may want to replace the blind with a curtain.

That said, usually small bits of light being reflected on TVs go unnoticed after a few days.

Seeing as you watch mostly at night, and without the lights on/bright, plasma is ideal for you.

If you watched mainly during the day, had a large door/window without a blind/curtain behind you, or enjoyed watching TV with lights on (let's be honest, these types do exist), I'd have suggested LCD.
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Thanks, yeah I guess that is fine. But the screen is still too big I reckon. The pentile screen will probably look a bit pixelated from my viewing distance. Again if it was a 51" Sammy, would have been all over it.
 
Effjh said:
Thanks, yeah I guess that is fine. But the screen is still too big I reckon. The pentile screen will probably look a bit pixelated from my viewing distance. Again if it was a 51" Sammy, would have been all over it.
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Nothing wrong with the pentile, what's your viewing distance?
 
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