HideInLight

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So South Africa consumer loses again. Now we get zero MTR cuts...

Maybe they should of just went 20c for all, then fought for Asymmetry for back when Vodacom and MTN hiked it to R1.20 when CellC entered the market.

edit: Just saw the update, gonna be an interesting 6 months.
 
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So South Africa consumer loses again. Now we get zero MTR cuts...
New information from the court.

The new rates will come into effect tomorrow as scheduled, but Icasa has been given 6 months within which to review them.
 

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New information from the court.

The new rates will come into effect tomorrow as scheduled, but Icasa has been given 6 months within which to review them.
Well that's better than nothing I guess, creates an interesting situation though. Vodacom could maybe lower their 120c per minute to 99c now and CellC would not have to hike their prices.
 
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weird, looks hollow for MTN and Vodacom and positive for Cell C / TM
& positive for consumers which is i think the departure point which the judge took
 

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This is definite win for ICASA and consumers.

Fvck MTN & Vodacom shoot.gif


What is this ****?

MTN South Africa CEO Zunaid Bulbulia also warned that the rate cuts could lead to “Eskom-type” rolling network blackouts “because we just don’t have the free cash in our business”.
This thieving gangster was paid R7m last year? For doing what exactly?
 

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at least they tried something

I think the media should hype this up as much as possible.

However since Vodacon & EmptyN sponsors most mass media outlets, I doubt it will see much attention.
 

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at least they tried something

I think the media should hype this up as much as possible.

However since Vodacon & EmptyN sponsors most mass media outlets, I doubt it will see much attention.
Telkom Mobile & Cell C's cuts will get major attention.


These cuts are locked in forever. If they go up after 6 months then TM and Cell-C can take out ads saying Vodacon & EmptyN are to blame!
 

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Ok guys at least the courts have given the benefit of the doubt to the consumer here.

I hope the Mobile Companies and I mean all of them realize this.

Clearly the courts have ruled ICASA messed up and the Mobile Giants need a wake up call.

I also do hope you all know that the rates are not the issue.

MTN & VodaCom merely challenged the process to reach the rates.
Also they challenged the Assymetry of being ridiculously high which will place them out of competing but I really dont see the fuss as from the 2010 regulations they never made an attempt to reduce their rates.

FAT CAT CEO's wake up and do something for the cash you are receiving.

ICASA needs to commence the process properly tomorrow morning with expert international opinion as well.

No time to waste here every day counts please contribute to ICASA's public comment document.

We will reach 10c per minute Termination Rate on both Fixed and Mobile, its very easy to justify guys.
 

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Telkom Mobile & Cell C's cuts will get major attention.


These cuts are locked in forever. If they go up after 6 months then TM and Cell-C can take out ads saying Vodacon & EmptyN are to blame!
I like this one and nail it to the cross to the maximum forever as if their public image is already not tainted.
 

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This is certainly a strange ruling. The regulations are unlawful, but must be implemented immediately and Icasa is given 6 months to make them lawful?
 

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This is certainly a strange ruling. The regulations are unlawful, but must be implemented immediately and Icasa is given 6 months to make them lawful?
Well the Judge must be feeling for the SA consumers and the smaller service providers and dit not want to delay the reduction any futher.
 

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This means that for the next 6 months Cell C and Telkom Mobile will be allowed to charge Vodacom and MTN significantly more to place to calls to their networks than Vodacom and MTN can charge them.
:confused: What??? Grammar goblin got hold of this one I think. That or my brain is a bit messed up... Or both. Too many "to's".
 

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This is certainly a strange ruling. The regulations are unlawful, but must be implemented immediately and Icasa is given 6 months to make them lawful?
The Judge could not find any reason to grant the interdict to prevent the cuts. She probably find some procedural defect that made them 'unlawful' and has given ICASA 6 months to fix it.

From the little that is available on Twitter; it appears the Judge took into account ICASA's public interest role as the regulator seriously. She was swayed by communication costs being high which impacts the poor especially hard.

This is a win for ICASA and what they should have done 10 years ago.
 

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the ruling is square on with judgments of the Constitutional Court allowing Parliament to remedy unconstitutional statutes. I think it is a great ruling actually. ICASA have to get properly on track with how they regulate and 6 months is a good period of time. There is also something Solomon-ish about spliting regulations with a year life down to 6 months.

Probably a good time for the MTN CEO to pay back his bonus and for the operators to go back to the drawing board.
 
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