MyBB Motorcycle Owners Thread

[GhostSixFour]

And to add to this force this emergency situations every so often to remind yourself how things work.

Do that super hard braking at the last stop street on your way home, where it’s a controlled environment you know well, and so on.

When I did the BMW training the presenter told us that he normally does an emergency brake as soon after leaving the house as possible. It becomes habit, and you get the confidence boost knowing that your braking system is in good working order as you set out on your journey. I've been heeding his advice, and it does help.

Especially with the ABS on the rear, it took some getting used to. I had to train myself to keep my foot on the rear brake when the ABS is active, as my instinct was to remove it.

 

[Zuner]

When I did the BMW training the presenter told us that he normally does an emergency brake as soon after leaving the house as possible. It becomes habit, and you get the confidence boost knowing that your braking system is in good working order as you set out on your journey. I've been heeding his advice, and it does help.

Especially with the ABS on the rear, it took some getting used to. I had to train myself to keep my foot on the rear brake when the ABS is active, as my instinct was to remove it.

Is that wise so soon? cold tyres, cold brake pads..

 

[GhostSixFour]

Is that wise so soon? cold tyres, cold brake pads..

If you practice under less than ideal conditions, you are even better prepared under real emergency conditions.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I try not to use the right lane if there is no concrete barrier and only bushes as i have seen cars crash and fly through those bushes hitting cars in fast lane head on. Been in the left lane just gives you that extra millisecond to react.

You seem to enjoy ignoring the more likely risks in favour of the much less likely ones.

The left lane puts you firmly in the “did not expect a bike there” zone, unlike the right right one where those odds are at least much increased in your favour although still not great.

Cars crashing and flying through the barriers is a once in a blue moon event. Even if it was a daily event you would need to be deeply unlucky and I reckon wherever you are is luck of the draw in relation to it.

Not a logical reason I would use to take the more risky road as you’ve evidenced by taxis miss behaving and increasing your risk of not being seen.

Not to mention endangering other bikes.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I have been driving bikes for 14 years so far. In my humble opinion, I find that non-stop observation coupled with "aggressive" (non-defensive) driving really helps to predict and control majority of situations on the roads. You will find careless and negligent drivers on a daily basis and it helps to try predict their behavior. I always try stay in front or next to any "performance" cars, BMW/Audi/FiestaST etc, as they can outbrake me by a long shot. Know your roads and important areas like where people usually skip stop streets/traffic lights and be extra observant.

Riding bike is an absolute jol but it's not a game.

If you are predicting and controlling situations you are riding defensively.

You can be both aggressive and defensive at the same time.

Defensive does not necessarily equal slow or risk averse, but rather risk aware.

 

[SauRoNZA]

When I did the BMW training the presenter told us that he normally does an emergency brake as soon after leaving the house as possible. It becomes habit, and you get the confidence boost knowing that your braking system is in good working order as you set out on your journey. I've been heeding his advice, and it does help.

Especially with the ABS on the rear, it took some getting used to. I had to train myself to keep my foot on the rear brake when the ABS is active, as my instinct was to remove it.

Personally not a fan of emergency braking to the point of engaging ABS.

If anything I want to know I’m good enough not to need the ABS failsafe, and rather just know it’s there if I get it wrong.

Not to mention the improved braking distance without ABS.

If you panic break it will always catch you and hopefully save you.

 

[Terence1983]

My old faithful yammie still has drum brakes front and rear.

All you yuppies with your fancy ABS brakes LOL.

Naa just kidding hey, wish I had a bike with abs disc brakes. The drums work well but obviously old and outdated and disks with abs would be much much safer.

Maybe I can afford to upgrade my bike after increase time in July if this country doesn't screw us over some more with prices hikes on everything. I know its the inevitable but I can dream about buying a new bike.

 

[Zuner]

Personally not a fan of emergency braking to the point of engaging ABS.

If anything I want to know I’m good enough not to need the ABS failsafe, and rather just know it’s there if I get it wrong.

Not to mention the improved braking distance without ABS.

If you panic break it will always catch you and hopefully save you.

I've gotten to a point that in my CAR, i know it well enough to make it engage abs for one cycle if i want, that's one locking/unlocking event, and that's something many people don't get, abs is helpful, but stopping distance is shortened if you don't engage abs at all.

 

[GhostSixFour]

Personally not a fan of emergency braking to the point of engaging ABS.

If anything I want to know I’m good enough not to need the ABS failsafe, and rather just know it’s there if I get it wrong.

Not to mention the improved braking distance without ABS.

If you panic break it will always catch you and hopefully save you.

Agreed. Just mentioning that practicing to that point helped me - if I had to engage the ABS for the first time in a real emergency, I would've taken my foot off the pedal. I know I would've cause that's what I did with my practice. Also, the F800 is quite sensitive and at that point had 50/50 tyres on so the ABS was even more sensitive.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I've gotten to a point that in my CAR, i know it well enough to make it engage abs for one cycle if i want, that's one locking/unlocking event, and that's something many people don't get, abs is helpful, but stopping distance is shortened if you don't engage abs at all.

He he.

When I did the Audi High Performance course I kept being kakked our for not engaging the ABS.

Eventually the second instructor was like who cares, he is doing the entire manoeuvre manually without hitting any cones.

Had to force my logic brain off to just mash the pedal like a retard to get the first instructor happy that I completed the checklist.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Agreed. Just mentioning that practicing to that point helped me - if I had to engage the ABS for the first time in a real emergency, I would've taken my foot off the pedal. I know I would've cause that's what I did with my practice. Also, the F800 is quite sensitive and at that point had 50/50 tyres on so the ABS was even more sensitive.

Yeah the BMW system is generally very sensitive on the rear.

If I leave mine in road mode it has a **** in the parking lot every morning, which is partly why it stays on Dynamic.

Absolutely you should be familiar with how your ABS works and at least engage it once to know what to expect.

I’ve never been able to engage the front ABS on my bike. I simply cannot ham fist it enough to go that far.

On some other bikes I have managed it though so I’m sure it’s a bike specific thing.

 

[GhostSixFour]

Yeah the BMW system is generally very sensitive on the rear.

If I leave mine in road mode it has a **** in the parking lot every morning, which is partly why it stays on Dynamic.

Absolutely you should be familiar with how your ABS works and at least engage it once to know what to expect.

I’ve never been able to engage the front ABS on my bike. I simply cannot ham fist it enough to go that far.

On some other bikes I have managed it though so I’m sure it’s a bike specific thing.

I found that on Enduro mode in parking garages with shiny floors, it allows you to have all sorts of fun.

 

[Sinbad]

And to add to this force this emergency situations every so often to remind yourself how things work.

Do that super hard braking at the last stop street on your way home, where it’s a controlled environment you know well, and so on.

and you don't have far to push the bike

 

[Zuner]

If you practice under less than ideal conditions, you are even better prepared under real emergency conditions.

True, however i meant more for wear and tear.

He he.

When I did the Audi High Performance course I kept being kakked our for not engaging the ABS.

Eventually the second instructor was like who cares, he is doing the entire manoeuvre manually without hitting any cones.

Had to force my logic brain off to just mash the pedal like a retard to get the first instructor happy that I completed the checklist.

I once did a skidpan/advancedDriving/funDay and when practicing cadence braking, the instructor also thought i was failing since i wasn't pumping the brake, instead i was feathering it at the point of wheel lock. As with you it seams some instructors can't comprehend knowing your vehicle to the point of not relying on its safety features.

 

[HibiscusTunes]

A bit of an update, I went to honda and got on the nc750. Im too short, only had tekkies on, but I was on my toes, and getting on wasnt easy. They mentioned that it could be lowered quite a bit with new suspension links.

I will be going to BMW and Zontes on monday to check out their respective 310cc bikes.

 

[Sinbad]

A bit of an update, I went to honda and got on the nc750. Im too short, only had tekkies on, but I was on my toes, and getting on wasnt easy. They mentioned that it could be lowered quite a bit with new suspension links.

I will be going to BMW and Zontes on monday to check out their respective 310cc bikes.

Trick to getting on...
left foot onto footpeg, step up
Then right leg up and over... pie.

 

[Zuner]

Trick to getting on...
left foot onto footpeg, step up
Then right leg up and over... pie.

True, but becomes an issue in parking lots or general moving of bike when basically stopped.

When I first started on a road bike, I wasn't in the habit of parking reversed in, became an issue if there was a slight slope. I almost flat foot both feet on my Kawa ER6 on its lowest suspension setting.

 

[SauRoNZA]

True, but becomes an issue in parking lots or general moving of bike when basically stopped.

When I first started on a road bike, I wasn't in the habit of parking reversed in, became an issue if there was a slight slope. I almost flat foot both feet on my Kawa ER6 on its lowest suspension setting.

Mistake is being on the bike and tippy toeing around with it.

You’ll never get anywhere.

Get off the bike and move it.

That being said if you can’t move a bike without being on it, either the bike is very wrong for you or you shouldn’t be riding (yet).

Important skill to learn, almost as much as riding itself.

The amount of people I’ve helped when they parked against a minor incline and then were unable to get themselves out because they can’t reach enough to put any kind of momentum into it is quite shocking.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Trick to getting on...
left foot onto footpeg, step up
Then right leg up and over... pie.

It is a joy to have a bike with a kickstand that allows for this.

Most sportier options don’t.

 

[Zuner]

Mistake is being on the bike and tippy toeing around with it.

You’ll never get anywhere.

Get off the bike and move it.

That being said if you can’t move a bike without being on it, either the bike is very wrong for you or you shouldn’t be riding (yet).

Important skill to learn, almost as much as riding itself.

The amount of people I’ve helped when they parked against a minor incline and then were unable to get themselves out because they can’t reach enough to put any kind of momentum into it is quite shocking.

I just learned to take note of where I park.
Being a smaller guy I'm much more comfortable tippy toeing the bike than moving it off the bike. On a more steep incline dropping the bike becomes a reality if I don't have a foot on either side.

All that said I'm fine with my bike, it was just the beginning where being used to not thinking about it in a car, I now simply reverse in, and can tippy toe the rest that I don't reverse in.