MyBB Motorcycle Owners Thread

[DoodleBug]

182cm 95kg responsible adult with no experience whatsoever, Rode a scooter in university but don't think that counts. budget is around 100k

Both are very capable bikes and at the end of the day it comes down to what you feel comfortable on, test ride both.

Yes it will feel unsettling or top heavy the first time you ride a large bike especially compared to a scooter but take the bikes up to 60 and 80 and you will see how stable they become.

You mentioned dirt riding and no experience, I would recommend drop or crash bars(Adventure Bikes) or frame sliders/crash bobbins(Road bikes) fitted ASAP. They save money, fairings, engine components and help prevent getting your leg trapped under the bike.
Seriously do it, I've just had the unfortunate event of having to test my frame sliders. It stopped my leg being trapped/crushed, saved what would have been much more damage to the bikes fairings, components and probably frame, I will share pics when I get home.

I would probably go for the BMW there seem to be more available 2nd hand so you can be really picky and negotiate easier. Also BMW hosts rider training and events so you learn how to use the bike to its full capacity.
There are a ton of accessories and upgrade kits for BMW bikes and they seem to have a good support network and community.

I have no experience with the 800GS engine and don't know if there are any known common defects, but as always preventative maintenance is key and by now they should have worked out the bugs.

What I do know is I have a Suzuki 650 with more than 100K on the clock and its never let me down once.

 

[FlexSA]

 

[Pox]

I don’t know hey.

You read about the Rocket and it sound mental. Then you see it and then it’s still pretty crazy.

Then you hear it...and absolutely nothing happens. It doesn’t move your soul, it hardly makes itself known.

The most boring overstated bike I’ve ever had the mispleasure of experiencing.

That bike does...evil things to me.

Then I found out there will only be 750 of them at something like £30 000.

So I got over it.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I was taught to keep my head level with the horizon when committing to a corner.

Are you leaning your head all the way over into it or is it just an odd angle for the photo?

 

[FlexSA]

I was taught to keep my head level with the horizon when committing to a corner.

Are you leaning your head all the way over into it or is it just an odd angle for the photo?

Not sure what difference that would make. I look through the corner to the exit. So not really focused on forcing my head one way or another. Goes naturally with the movement of my body and shoulders.
But i presume you mean something more like this?:

 

[SauRoNZA]

Not sure what difference that would make. I look through the corner to the exit. So not really focused on forcing my head one way or another. Goes naturally with the movement of my body and shoulders.
But i presume you mean something more like this?:

Yeah I don’t remember the exact reason why it was always drummed in at track days.

Guess I learned it so early on that they didn’t repeat it to me often enough again.

Figured you would actually know why and answer the logic.

I think partly it had to do with your body following your head and naturally leaning into it.

Something I always see in the professional racing photos is how their visors are dead on parallel to the ground, except for Rossi who is always being different.

 

[FlexSA]

Yeah I don’t remember the exact reason why it was always drummed in at track days.

Guess I learned it so early on that they didn’t repeat it to me often enough again.

Figured you would actually know why and answer the logic.

I think partly it had to do with your body following your head and naturally leaning into it.

Something I always see in the professional racing photos is how their visors are dead on parallel to the ground.

If it is a long sweeping corner then it is kind of natural. But if it is a hairpin and you need to look right through it then it is a bit of a different story.

+ the seating and shoulder/back positioning on a SBK is much different than on a motard. On a SBK it is much easier to lift your chin up higher and stick head a bit more forward.

But I can't think that it will have that much of an impact. The most important thing that as you know is the look through a corner and not where you are going. Where your head is placed will depend on riding style, bike you are riding and the type of corner you are taking

 

[ArmatageShanks]

Speaking of posture on track (kind of) can someone explain to me this sticking out of the whole leg to the inside of a corner during straight line braking in moto gp? I don't see the point and also do they not want use the rear brake at this point? Taking their foot of the peg entirely must mean they can't.

 

[FlexSA]

Speaking of posture on track (kind of) can someone explain to me this sticking out of the whole leg to the inside of a corner during straight line braking in moto gp? I don't see the point and also do they not want use the rear brake at this point? Taking their foot of the peg entirely must mean they can't.

At that point there is 0 to no weight on the rear wheel so rear brake is useless. Mostly just used for trail braking.

Rossi started doing it to get more weight over the bike into the apex and feel more accurately how the bike is behaving.
But since then people have started doing it to try and block people from passing

 

[ArmatageShanks]

At that point there is 0 to no weight on the rear wheel so rear brake is useless. Mostly just used for trail braking.

Rossi started doing it to get more weight over the bike into the apex and feel more accurately how the bike is behaving.
But since then people have started doing it to try and block people from passing

Ahhh I thought as much yeah, read somewhere that someone won a race or something in the final corner by scraping on the inside of his opponent, what I wonder is would the leg actual stop your opponent from diving very close to you on the inside? its not as if your leg would unsettle him, or is there a penalty for contact?

 

[SauRoNZA]

Ahhh I thought as much yeah, read somewhere that someone won a race or something in the final corner by scraping on the inside of his opponent, what I wonder is would the leg actual stop your opponent from diving very close to you on the inside? its not as if your leg would unsettle him, or is there a penalty for contact?

Rossi is a very different breed that goes against almost every other convention.

He also doesn't look through corners but only directly in front of him in most cases.

 

[FlexSA]

Ahhh I thought as much yeah, read somewhere that someone won a race or something in the final corner by scraping on the inside of his opponent, what I wonder is would the leg actual stop your opponent from diving very close to you on the inside? its not as if your leg would unsettle him, or is there a penalty for contact?

Well if you are on the racing line then you have the right of way, whether your leg is dangling or not. If the guy can squeeze in you will move your leg! but if there is contact there are not usually penalties. Only if a guy takes a risky move, that he clearly had no intent or way of making the apex and sticking to the racing line

 

[FlexSA]

He also doesn't look through corners but only directly in front of him in most cases.

Damn really? Never seen or knew this

 

[SauRoNZA]

Damn really? Never seen or knew this

He's commented on it in some documentaries when asked about it.

In some cases if you watch him closely you can sort of notice where his focus point is but obviously in many corners it's automatic to look through it and you'd have to actively avoid it not to do it.

But I believe what he basically means is that he doesn't focus on the vanishing point but rather the area immediately in front of him.

 

[FlexSA]

He's commented on it in some documentaries when asked about it.

In some cases if you watch him closely you can sort of notice where his focus point is but obviously in many corners it's automatic to look through it and you'd have to actively avoid it not to do it.

But I believe what he basically means is that he doesn't focus on the vanishing point but rather the area immediately in front of him.

If you can find that it would be great. I find myself sometimes doing that and having to force myself to look through

 

[Tickled_Tortise]

Does anyone here own one of the new SV650's or what's the consensus on this bike. Is this V-Twin as fun as it's marketed to be?

At R100k brand new I wouldn't call it a bargain but the price isn't terrible, although I'm yet to see one on the pre-owned market. Could this be because everyone loves them too much to sell or because no is buying them in the first place.?

 

[SauRoNZA]

Does anyone here own one of the new SV650's or what's the consensus on this bike. Is this V-Twin as fun as it's marketed to be?

At R100k brand new I wouldn't call it a bargain but the price isn't terrible, although I'm yet to see one on the pre-owned market. Could this be because everyone loves them too much to sell or because no is buying them in the first place.?

I'll be honest I didn't even know it exists, so definitely haven't seen any around.

The old SV650 was always a start bike favourite. I personally felt the forward lean was way too hectic and sporty and it should have been raked back more for comfort.

They were nice bikes with a lot of personality (soul) though, which you don't often find in that class.

 

[Tickled_Tortise]

I'll be honest I didn't even know it exists, so definitely haven't seen any around.

The old SV650 was always a start bike favourite. I personally felt the forward lean was way too hectic and sporty and it should have been raked back more for comfort.

They were nice bikes with a lot of personality (soul) though, which you don't often find in that class.

I know the old SV650's were highly respected and I almost bought one just on its reputation but the age and condition of the bikes available made me think twice. So this new one wants to continue on that lineage and promises a similar character but I just don't see or hear of these new ones.

Only saw a small feature on The Bike Show on Ignition, but those guys never have anything bad to say about a bikes, it makes me doubtfull of the reviews, I guess they gota keep thier sponsors happy.

 

[kfc4unme]

Does anyone here own one of the new SV650's or what's the consensus on this bike. Is this V-Twin as fun as it's marketed to be?

At R100k brand new I wouldn't call it a bargain but the price isn't terrible, although I'm yet to see one on the pre-owned market. Could this be because everyone loves them too much to sell or because no is buying them in the first place.?

I've only seen good reviews on the bike. I think under a R100k for a new bike is a amazing price considering the crazy bike prices in general (what bike is under a 100k? )

 

[SauRoNZA]

Just checked the website and I have actually seen this and wasn't sure what it was.

When you say SV650 I always consider the half-faired SV650S as the standard so didn't expect anything this naked.