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Question of the Day: Are you keeping your Prime subscription?
zamicro
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Disappointed again... When will new companies see that they HAVE to compete on price?
Pilgrim
Wugger
Not as far as I remember. I think they plan on using WiMax for High Speed Internet.
The CDMA is for Basic Internet.
At least I hope this is the case
A lot of useless buzzwords use to described internet nowadays: "Good day Sir, I want unshaped uncapped low latency high speed fixed mobile internet on a month to month basis please..."
(Meaning traffic is only shaped by the upstream provider not the ISP, I can download as much as I want as long as it is not more than some secret maximum threshold, on network latency is decent but there is nothing the ISP can do to improve my WOW latency, the peak theoretical speed is very high but I will never really download at that speed, my modem is mobile but I have to leave it where it is when I want to use the internet, and I pay for this month and next month at least even when I give 30 days notice)
Jonny Two Shoes
Expert Member
How do they get CDMA to be so slow lol? It's almost as though they force it to be slow 
a more exaggerated effort in shnying people I suppose :/ you gotta spend money to make money ey?
a more exaggerated effort in shnying people I suppose :/ you gotta spend money to make money ey? martmeister
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156 kbps = 19.5 kilobytes / second according to google? that correct?
Effectively the same as the DSL192 offered (a while ago) by telkom...
Unlimited bandwidth is a step in the right direction. I think it's an awesome thing to hear. They will be providing more details on other products so expect other speeds for more money.
Effectively the same as the DSL192 offered (a while ago) by telkom...
Unlimited bandwidth is a step in the right direction. I think it's an awesome thing to hear. They will be providing more details on other products so expect other speeds for more money.
Glordit
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Looking at it this way:
I pay,
R300 for 8kbs unlimited + R200 for Telkom = R500 a mo
R469 for 18kbs unlimited w/ 1000 minutes + SMS's a mo
It seems that the Neotel option is faster & cheaper for me! now I can DL anime and play GW at the same time
I pay,
R300 for 8kbs unlimited + R200 for Telkom = R500 a mo
R469 for 18kbs unlimited w/ 1000 minutes + SMS's a mo
It seems that the Neotel option is faster & cheaper for me! now I can DL anime and play GW at the same time
Jonny Two Shoes
Expert Member
Didn't they get full access to SAT3 recently?
Why not? Internet access in America is free dammit. So why is it so expensive here
why is it not financially viable when companies all over the world are doing it?And in todays day and age I really don't expect to fork out more then R200 for something that is not even considered broadband...a staple in Internet terms today for home and business as far as I'm concerned.
At least one thing I don't mind is the fact that you can cancel the contract and only have to pay for the device thereafter. In terms of finance this makes sense as one can't expect the company to be liable for the device for every Tom, Dick and Harry who cancels their contract. So I don't mind this at all if the cancellation penalty is minimal. The only downside I see is the fact that they are using such weird equipment? A USB CDMA modem with no ethernet afaik?? Why then don't we make USB graphics cards as well for petes sake :/ it's just not practical.
Not nearly adequate. It seems the products are being compared to others in SA.
Instead, I'd like a product comparable to what is possible with broadband.
At least like, 8mbps, uncapped, around R200 - R350 per month all inclusive.
Instead, I'd like a product comparable to what is possible with broadband.
At least like, 8mbps, uncapped, around R200 - R350 per month all inclusive.
Crusader
Executive Member
Well, this would definitely be a great option for people who want to move up from dail-up and to whom speed isn't a major issue. Provided that you constantly get the maximum throughput you are looking at around 19KB/s - around 4-5 times the speed of dail-up.
I'll definitely ditch my dail-up (no ADSL available) for this. I'm not worried about the speed, but I do download quite large files on occasion (20MB+ photos etc.) and being online 24/7 would be a huge business plus.
HSDPA speeds are amazing... but without a large enough cap to go with it, it doesn't mean much. Who cares that you can watch Youtube videos when that video costs you around R10 to watch.
Compare the 45-50GB cap with any other offering and you can't come close to that for this price.
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damian24
Senior Member
No matter what Neotel says, average data rates are unlikely to be as high as they say, they chose 800MHz to enable using fewer transmitters... meaning more subscribers per tower, over and above voice has obviously got priority.
If they get any appreciable market for voice then data's going to take a back seat at least until they're able to increase tower density.
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If they get any appreciable market for voice then data's going to take a back seat at least until they're able to increase tower density.
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TimTDP
Expert Member
156 Kbps too slow
No Ethernet
Can't use internet and voice simultaneously
Maybe Telkom is not so bad!!!
No Ethernet
Can't use internet and voice simultaneously
Maybe Telkom is not so bad!!!
eltherza
Expert Member
R300 for a 512K line and a 10GB cap would be enough for me now
Erm guys, I'm sure its not 158kbps, as that is not divisable by two.
It could possibly be 128+32 = 160kbps.
Although I'm actually hoping that it is 158kBps, equating to 1,264kbps which is roughly half of the speed of their prime offering.
It could possibly be 128+32 = 160kbps.
Although I'm actually hoping that it is 158kBps, equating to 1,264kbps which is roughly half of the speed of their prime offering.
AntiThesis
Executive Member
My point is more that anyone who was expecing NeoTel to come out with:
Unlimited up/down
4 mb/s
R150 pm (month to month)
was smoking crack. Africa != America. It is going to be a slow road to awesome broadband and although I want it as much as the next starved SAfrican, I am realistic about it.
An uncapped offering is a great first step. I hope to hell they increase the speed as their network takes more load and as they know they have capacity but I don't think it'll happen until Seacom is a realistic resource.
Unlimited up/down
4 mb/s
R150 pm (month to month)
was smoking crack. Africa != America. It is going to be a slow road to awesome broadband and although I want it as much as the next starved SAfrican, I am realistic about it.
An uncapped offering is a great first step. I hope to hell they increase the speed as their network takes more load and as they know they have capacity but I don't think it'll happen until Seacom is a realistic resource.
labratza
Expert Member
does anyone know where about in jhb they are avaible? and is there a monthly limit on the unlimited in the t and c? and what is the most u can download on there unlimited line?
Best comment of the day, well done.
You have a point there. It doesnt matter how badly we (few) want cheap and fast broadband, if there is no business case to support the offering it will never happen.
The only way any company can compete on price is if it is a low cost producer. No company in the world can open up shop in SA and suddenly and magically offer broadband on par with US/UK, etc; unless it becomes a low cost producer (i.e. either able to buy and resell broadband cheaply or "produce" broadband cheaply).
My guess is, Neotell is doing what makes business sense, they are not a charity or NGO - only once we can "produce" cheaper broadband and have competition (more undersea cables and more companies selling that capacity) will we see real affordable broadband
hj2k_x
Honorary Master
Mods, can we have a thread merge!