New PC build, advice & recommendations welcome!

ponder said:
Would 450W be sufficient? Was thinking 500W Antec or Super Flower. Will end up with 4x HDD
I don't need a fancy case with disco lights, the Corsair Carbide 200R appeals to me but if there's something similar/
simpler/cheaper out there let me know.
I'm assuming you picked the WD Black purely based on warranty?

A 128GB SSD would be a nice bonus. I only need 10GB for Linux so the rest could go to Windows.
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If you're really on a budget take the Antec.
 
Chevron said:
Any power supply called super flower will require you to purchase super flowers for your pcs grave.
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Super Flower is actually a great brand from what I've read, they're just new to SA thus the unfamiliarity. They come with a 5yr warranty as well. The 500W Antec VP only has a 2yr warranty.
 
ponder said:
Would 450W be sufficient? Was thinking 500W Antec or Super Flower. Will end up with 4x HDD
I don't need a fancy case with disco lights, the Corsair Carbide 200R appeals to me but if there's something similar/
simpler/cheaper out there let me know.
I'm assuming you picked the WD Black purely based on warranty?

A 128GB SSD would be a nice bonus. I only need 10GB for Linux so the rest could go to Windows.
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Yeah it'll be fine. More than fine, actually, given that the GTX 960 usually hovers around 120W power draw on AAA games and for lighter ones sits at around 30W. I don't see the FX-6300 using more than 150W at stock so you're way under the PSU's limit and around 60% load for games, so efficiency will be quite high.

You can use simpler chassis, I didn't know you were planning to put in four drives. The Bitfenix Outlaw is another good choice if you need to narrow down the list.

Yes to the warranty being the chief factor. Its a decent drive and very reliable. If you can do with the SSD just being the boot drive and hosting a few programs and not too many games, then a 128GB drive is quite fine. Corsair's LX 120GB, Crucial's BX100/MX100, Transcend SSD370 128GB and the OCZ Arc 120GB are all good drives that are usually under a grand.

Chevron said:
Any power supply called super flower will require you to purchase super flowers for your pcs grave.
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Right... I guess you know jack **** about Super Flower PSUs then.
 
ponder said:
What am I gonna pay for a MB that will allow me to OC that CPU (i5-4690k)? I would probably fit a non-k better into the budget. I would love to have that CPU though
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There's like R200 difference between the k version and locked multiplier version of the 4690. A motherboard that allows overclocking would be around R850 to R900 (Gigabyte H81).
 
H81, B85, H87 and H97 chipsets won't allow for K-series overclocking. They can do the Pentium G3258 just fine, but that's a one-off thing.
 
Btw, kudos on keeping that chip running for so long. My Q6600 ran for 5 years at 3.6Ghz before I retired it to a media server and returned it to stock. It's a fantastic piece of hardware.
 
Neoprod said:
Btw, kudos on keeping that chip running for so long. My Q6600 ran for 5 years at 3.6Ghz before I retired it to a media server and returned it to stock. It's a fantastic piece of hardware.
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One of Intels best CPUs ever, mine's the one with G0 stepping which I lapped as well. It's still working.
 
ponder said:
One of Intels best CPUs ever, mine's the one with G0 stepping
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Also. Got into a helluva argument with Cyberdyne at the time cos' they refused to get me that particular stepping. Never went back there after.
 
ponder said:
But there's no gaurantee that thr H81 will still be able to OC 5 months from now knowing Intel?
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As Cataclysm pointed out, Intel probably didnt expect Gigabyte to enable overclocking on that chipset but I can't see what they can do about it (or if they even care to be honest). If Gigabyte can provide OC features while still meeting the H81's price point, more power to them really.
 
Neoprod said:
As Cataclysm pointed out, Intel probably didnt expect Gigabyte to enable overclocking on that chipset but I can't see what they can do about it (or if they even care to be honest). If Gigabyte can provide OC features while still meeting the H81's price point, more power to them really.
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I must say I'm tempted, R2.3k CPU + R870 MB sounds like a winner to me!
 
....you're pondering what I'm pondering :whistle:

Sorry, I'll show myself to the door.
 
Neoprod said:
Overclocked an i7-4770k to 4.6Ghz on an R870.00 motherboard.
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Man, those VRMs are going to choke and die before two years are up. I can imagine the throttling that happens on that chip. Overclocking is possible with those specific brands and BIOSes, but I wouldn't bank on it for a complete system that's expected to do that day in and out. Maybe for a G3258, but even there Intel only officially supports Z97.

Neoprod said:
As Cataclysm pointed out, Intel probably didnt expect Gigabyte to enable overclocking on that chipset but I can't see what they can do about it (or if they even care to be honest).
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They do care, Intel went into full-on rage mode when motherboard vendors did that with H61,or when they allowed for hacks to Turbo Boost to overclock your chip by around 300MHz permanently. A month later Intel had strong-armed board partners and distributors to only ship boards that had fixed BIOSes. When they made the switch to Haswell, no board vendor was ever allowed to ship a board that could allow for changes to Turbo boost. The whole thing ended up being better for them overall, but they can't afford to be seen as making this thing a permanent arrangement because it may be seen by the FTC as abusing their monopoly on the market.

Because they can disable overclocking by slipping microcode updates for affected systems using Windows Update, I wouldn't be assuming that one can always expect to overclock a Core i7-4770K on a H81 or H87/H97 board.

I'd much rather go with a decent H97 board anyway, having M.2 support is kickass.
 
I think I'm going for that 4690k on carbonite. Willing to take a chance with the GA-H81M-S2PH MB
 
CataclysmZA said:
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I hear you but I think Gigabyte would have a problem retracting something they've provided to the end consumer. If it was irretrievably disabled via an update, I would expect them to replace the board with something that provides the lost features. I would be interested to hear from someone who's had this happen to them.

Can speak to Gigabyte's quality with regards to motherboard durability. That shouldn't be in question here.
 
ponder said:
I think I'm going for that 4690k on carbonite. Willing to take a chance with the GA-H81M-S2PH MB
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On second thought that MB is pretty limited, forgot about sata/pata for optical drive and I can't find many reviews for it wrt OCing
 
Not worth ocing anymore too be honest, we have reached that point where the CPU is more than capable when running on stock.
Things are gonna just become more and more efficient, especially when directx 12 arrives. That performance increase isn't really "free", when you have to buy a more expensive motherboard.

I rather go for longevity, increasing lifespan as long as possible.
I mean people have to run sli GTX970 just to show the CPU limits now.
 
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HideInLight said:
Not worth ocing anymore too be honest.
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You forgot the part where he kept his previous PC for 7-odd years. Overclocking capability becomes handy in that use case.

Ponder, definitely an idea to get a board with more features for a workstation...the H81 is very basic.
 
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