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Lupus said:
Well the 5700 does have 2 more cores and a bit faster but otherwise they aren't the best
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I understand wht you mean, looking at its spot in the generational line up the 5700 does not look as good as the 5600 looks.

but in terms of value for money on the bundle deal he got a decent deal.

and going to Ryzen 9 instead of 7 is just too much of a new product tax on everything, so the gains of DDR5 does not make sense.

and if the option was there to go Ryzen 5 and a 5600 then it would be the correct thing to do, but taht was not an option in this case
 
Baxteen said:
I understand wht you mean, looking at its spot in the generational line up the 5700 does not look as good as the 5600 looks.

but in terms of value for money on the bundle deal he got a decent deal.

and going to Ryzen 9 instead of 7 is just too much of a new product tax on everything, so the gains of DDR5 does not make sense.

and if the option was there to go Ryzen 5 and a 5600 then it would be the correct thing to do, but taht was not an option in this case
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he could have done this.
 
if it was me, I would have done that. I dont mind going second hand.

he wanted to go brand new parts because its his first ever new system and not hadn me downs or second hand parts when a friend upgrades.
 
Baxteen said:
if it was me, I would have done that. I dont mind going second hand.

he wanted to go brand new parts because its his first ever new system and not hadn me downs or second hand parts when a friend upgrades.
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Yea understandable, just saying.
 
I fully agree and it was my advice, and I even sent him a few links to stuff.
I sent him a B550 and a 5600X that would have been 3K in total and he could easily get RAM for cheaper on there, and the entire thing would have cost less. but then he would have needed to drive around to collect and potentially deal wiht different buyers.

now everything is under one waranty and everything is new. gives him piece of mind. and makes him super happy.

he just took delivery a few mins ago
 
tbh. i would have gone to intel i5 12th gen combo instead of that horrible 5700 cpu. (if he never planned on upgrading to 5700x3d cpu)

Also, did he get 2x memory modules or is it just one module? AMD needs to run in dual channel. The 1 vs 2 stick is a massive difference compared to intel
 
Exaelea said:
tbh. i would have gone to intel i5 12th gen combo instead of that horrible 5700 cpu. (if he never planned on upgrading to 5700x3d cpu)

Also, did he get 2x memory modules or is it just one module? AMD needs to run in dual channel. The 1 vs 2 stick is a massive difference compared to intel
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he is planning on going to the X3d eventually.
and he has 2x 16GB RAM.

and I advised him against Intel. and he fully agreed after comparing a few CPU's that he was looking at on a CPU benchmark website.
intel just feels like it is a dead end at the moment, upgrade path and future feels uncertain and unclear where wiht AMD, you have a clear upgrade path and wiht the new architecture already out and doing well, it means that in the future being able to find an X3d will be possible and likely.
 
Is it time we as gamers considered supporting Radeon graphics? I really hope FSR 4 is good for the sake of competition. The RTX 5000 situation is sad.
 
UrBaN963 said:
I mean... Gamdias and Klevv are brands that would never see the inside of my PC. However, if they work then cool.

Let's hope they ship 2 RAM modules - Evetech are notorious for bundling a single DIMM with their upgrade kits, meaning you run at single channel.

Keep in mind, if any of the components in the bundle are faulty, he has to return all of them - Evetech treat bundles as single items, so a RAM failure means CPU, MOBO, RAM all going back. Why? Because Evetech.
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I buy almost all my hardware at Wootware.

Except for an upgrade kit, I ended up buying from Evetech - yes, I rolled the dice and got lucky ;-) Price was too good.

The KLEVV RAM in my machine has been perfect for the last 2 years. Reviews seem good.
 
well one day in.
took him 6 full hours to build his PC. no idea why it took him so long I was not there. he did call me at the end with a question about a RGB controller cable from one of the fans that he could not find where to plug in. and he ended up not needing it and left the controller unplugged.

mobo, RAM and CPU all work as expected.
ram is running in teh correct slots, but I think he did not change the RAM frequency so its still running as stock.

now he starts saving for a GPU upgrade. if he is lucky he will be able to go from his 10 series to a 30 or 40 series by december.

that being said, more reliable PC means he can do more work, and with what he does that could mean he can save more over the coming months.
 
joewashere said:
Is it time we as gamers considered supporting Radeon graphics? I really hope FSR 4 is good for the sake of competition. The RTX 5000 situation is sad.
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The problem is all of the Nvidia features just are that good, FSR 4 was finally going to be at the same level as DLSS and then suddenly DLSS 4 came out and absolutely blows FSR out of the water so now FSR is at the level DLSS was 2 years ago and DLSS 4 is on such a different level it's not even fair to compare them.

AMD's only choice is to tank the short term loss and sell the next gen cards at such a deep discount they can't be ignored and actually gain some market share.
 
joewashere said:
Is it time we as gamers considered supporting Radeon graphics? I really hope FSR 4 is good for the sake of competition. The RTX 5000 situation is sad.
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What is amd offering that is beating either a 5080 0r 5090?
I have never been one to support a brand I go with what at the upgrade time offers the most performance for the price I am willing to pay.
 
stefan9 said:
What is amd offering that is beating either a 5080 0r 5090?
I have never been one to support a brand I go with what at the upgrade time offers the most performance for the price I am willing to pay.
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With that logic, you will never buy nvidia. Amd is 99% of the time cheaper for a minor performance loss. .. yada yada same class card, dont go comparing a 7900gre to a 4090 etc

Amd doesnt have a 5090 competitor. The unreleased 9070xt is rumored to be slightly slower than the 5080 at nearly half the price
 
Exaelea said:
With that logic, you will never buy nvidia. Amd is 99% of the time cheaper for a minor performance loss. .. yada yada same class card, dont go comparing a 7900gre to a 4090 etc

Amd doesnt have a 5090 competitor. The unreleased 9070xt is rumored to be slightly slower than the 5080 at nearly half the price
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It's going to depend on the new AMD GPU's ray tracing performance, slowly but surely you can't say but I don't care about ray tracing anymore because more and more games are now launching with ray tracing required.

If the 9070 XT beats the 5070 in RT and gets decently close to the 5080 in raster for $699 or even better $649 then that will be a very tempting offer.
 
Exaelea said:
With that logic, you will never buy nvidia. Amd is 99% of the time cheaper for a minor performance loss. .. yada yada same class card, dont go comparing a 7900gre to a 4090 etc

Amd doesnt have a 5090 competitor. The unreleased 9070xt is rumored to be slightly slower than the 5080 at nearly half the price
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Presume you mean amd. And incorrect as I have owned an AMD r9 290x it was the faster card at the time. When I am buying a card I am looking for the fastest card at the price I am willing to spend. Price isn't as important to me as having the faster card as I won't upgrade for 2 generations.

The fact that amd doesn't currently have a faster card at either of the 2 top segments and can only compete on price is where the issues start and why NV feels no pressure. When you add dlss being better then FSR it becomes an even more compelling argument.
 
Exaelea said:
With that logic, you will never buy nvidia. Amd is 99% of the time cheaper for a minor performance loss. .. yada yada same class card, dont go comparing a 7900gre to a 4090 etc

Amd doesnt have a 5090 competitor. The unreleased 9070xt is rumored to be slightly slower than the 5080 at nearly half the price
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The 9070 XT is a downgrade from the 7900 XTX. AMD won't be competing with Nvidia anymore at the flagship level.
 
Lefty309 said:
The 9070 XT is a downgrade from the 7900 XTX. AMD won't be competing with Nvidia anymore at the flagship level.
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Lower tier, but newer tech. We will have to see how it does when it releases.
 
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