OpenWeb ADSL Feedback Thread

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akescpt said:
sportsdevil. im struggling a bit to get a decent stream going myside.
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Will give it a shot this weekend and report back. I've struggled with Sportsdevil in the past, so this will be a good litmus test...
 
MrBEEP said:
We used to offer unconditional unshaped Browsing. Some folks decided that it is a great idea to download over the Browsing protocol. The abuse was a very very very very very very very costly affair. We feel this is a fair way of mitigating the abuse.

The policy is very fair. It does not immediately shape browsing. Only if it sees your download persisting, will it affect your browsing. AND ONLY DURING PEAK.

Offpeak you can go monkey nuts and no-one will care.

Blame Telkom. If they drop their IPC rate by 50% these silly policies will not be necessary. They are the thorn in everyones side.
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Ok, so in which of these situations (if any) would this kick in?

1 ) I leave my torrents or nzbs running all day (I figure they're shaped to nothing anyway during peak so what does it matter?) Surely it's your responsibility to manage which protocols have priority not mine.
2 ) I need to download some important software update or whatever over http during peak, is it really justified to expect me to manage when I do this and make sure this peak time extra potent shaping/throttling isn't in effect?

Or is the policy - oh crap he's downloading over an unshaped protocol, quick throttle that guy we can't afford this? Surely people who aren't abusers, and genuinely just need to update something or download something important get caught in this crossfire and receive a degraded internet experience?

Feels like I've been an innocent victim of this in the past I just didn't know what it was - please correct me if I'm wrong and this only affects people who are actively trying to bypass shaping?
 
We have created extensive lists of 'legitimate' downloads eg Windows Updates, Apple Updates, Anti Virus etc. If you download these you will be unaffected.

The rule is in place to protect the network and all clients using it.

We refine these rules regularly.

nut123 said:
Ok, so in which of these situations (if any) would this kick in?

1 ) I leave my torrents or nzbs running all day (I figure they're shaped to nothing anyway during peak so what does it matter?) Surely it's your responsibility to manage which protocols have priority not mine.
2 ) I need to download some important software update or whatever over http during peak, is it really justified to expect me to manage when I do this and make sure this peak time extra potent shaping/throttling isn't in effect?

Or is the policy - oh crap he's downloading over an unshaped protocol, quick throttle that guy we can't afford this? Surely people who aren't abusers, and genuinely just need to update something or download something important get caught in this crossfire and receive a degraded internet experience?

Feels like I've been an innocent victim of this in the past I just didn't know what it was - please correct me if I'm wrong and this only affects people who are actively trying to bypass shaping?
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MrBEEP said:
We used to offer unconditional unshaped Browsing. Some folks decided that it is a great idea to download over the Browsing protocol. The abuse was a very very very very very very very costly affair. We feel this is a fair way of mitigating the abuse.

The policy is very fair. It does not immediately shape browsing. Only if it sees your download persisting, will it affect your browsing. AND ONLY DURING PEAK.

Offpeak you can go monkey nuts and no-one will care.

Blame Telkom. If they drop their IPC rate by 50% these silly policies will not be necessary. They are the thorn in everyones side.
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How do know its not HD streaming?
 
MrBEEP said:
We have created extensive lists of 'legitimate' downloads eg Windows Updates, Apple Updates, Anti Virus etc. If you download these you will be unaffected.

The rule is in place to protect the network and all clients using it.

We refine these rules regularly.
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Ok, fair enough :) so it only affects downloads attempted over http, normal shaping rules apply for things like torrents and nzbs during peak?

I assume this legitimate list excludes things like Linux distros and steam updates? List could perhaps be public so people can avoid having this happen?

Also when is peak, how would I be able to tell if this policy is active? I'd rather not find out by breaching it and getting throttled for an hour, if you know what I mean?

Thanks
 
Hey hey .... weekend is upon us...... What news for the weekend Mr. Beep?

Personally hoping for sunshine on the Indian Ocean ... but if that plan fails, looking to OW to help provide some entertainment.
 
VB Backbone

Is anyone still on the VB backbone and if so, do you have normal connectivity?

Thx.
 
So confused. Streaming was decent, bordering on good even earlier. Dammit. This was just supposed to be a waiting period.
 
We do hope you are enjoying the OpenWeb Unshaped weekend?

This week was a very interesting one on the OpenWeb front. We welcomed back many clients that left OpenWeb for the cheap pricing offered by some of our competitors. Needless to say, they are VERY happy to be back :)

Welcome back to the family guys!
 
MrBEEP said:
We do hope you are enjoying the OpenWeb Unshaped weekend?

This week was a very interesting one on the OpenWeb front. We welcomed back many clients that left OpenWeb for the cheap pricing offered by some of our competitors. Needless to say, they are VERY happy to be back :)

Welcome back to the family guys!
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Well tbh you do make it hard to leave
 
There is no shaping applied at all currently.

Therefore the fault will not be related to shaping.

Maybe try a router power down (Minimum 30 minutes). These always do wonders for a connection

feo said:
nntp really slow for me, half the speed at which it normally runs.
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So my account is not authenticating.DSL line is fine, tried several other accounts which work. Leoni reset my port, still not working.:(
 
MrBEEP said:
We do hope you are enjoying the OpenWeb Unshaped weekend?

This week was a very interesting one on the OpenWeb front. We welcomed back many clients that left OpenWeb for the cheap pricing offered by some of our competitors. Needless to say, they are VERY happy to be back :)

Welcome back to the family guys!
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Sweet :D No shaping tomorrow as well? :D :D :D
 
Can I get some advice from you guys please. I need a new ISP. I see Openweb has two specials at the moment being Gamers King and Silver turbo. Both would be the 10mbps acc on a 10mbps line. I game a lot and download about 200 to 300 gigs a month. Which account would you recommend and why? (Both are perfectly in budget)
 
thomascmyk said:
Can I get some advice from you guys please. I need a new ISP. I see Openweb has two specials at the moment being Gamers King and Silver turbo. Both would be the 10mbps acc on a 10mbps line. I game a lot and download about 200 to 300 gigs a month. Which account would you recommend and why? (Both are perfectly in budget)
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If you want sexy internet then a gold account is the best around here. So I hear at least.
 
thomascmyk said:
Its also way out of my budget. Thus why I mentioned 2 which is in budget and asked for a recommendation on that.
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I'm on the gamers. But it's a bit of a hit and miss between users. Not sure of the silver one. But gamers should be sufficient for your needs.
 
I have made my decision... the trial account runs a torrent at full throttle (max line speed)
MrBEEP, can you do the necessary on Tuesday morning please? I think I owe you some documentation?
 
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