OpenWeb ADSL Feedback Thread

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1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms DD-WRT [192.168.3.1]
2 149 ms 75 ms 29 ms 196-210-146-1.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.146.
1]
3 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms cdsl1-rba-vl2153.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.169]
4 15 ms 12 ms 12 ms cdsl1-rba-vl150.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.17]
5 13 ms 13 ms 39 ms core1a-pkl-te-1-1.ip.isnet.net [196.26.0.60]
6 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms ar2-rba-gi0-1.ip.isnet.net [168.209.1.172]
7 14 ms 12 ms 13 ms mi-za-rba-gsrpe2-gi1-1-0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.8
6.250]
8 52 ms 42 ms 41 ms 196.26.120.162
9 240 ms 134 ms 102 ms core-access-switch1.jnb1.host-h.net [197.189.193
.1]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 177 ms 153 ms 214 ms 41.203.24.42
12 15 ms 14 ms 13 ms mail.openweb.co.za [41.72.150.7]

Exchange congestion.
 
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms DD-WRT [192.168.3.1]
2 149 ms 75 ms 29 ms 196-210-146-1.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.146.
1]
3 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms cdsl1-rba-vl2153.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.169]
4 15 ms 12 ms 12 ms cdsl1-rba-vl150.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.17]
5 13 ms 13 ms 39 ms core1a-pkl-te-1-1.ip.isnet.net [196.26.0.60]
6 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms ar2-rba-gi0-1.ip.isnet.net [168.209.1.172]
7 14 ms 12 ms 13 ms mi-za-rba-gsrpe2-gi1-1-0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.8
6.250]
8 52 ms 42 ms 41 ms 196.26.120.162
9 240 ms 134 ms 102 ms core-access-switch1.jnb1.host-h.net [197.189.193
.1]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 177 ms 153 ms 214 ms 41.203.24.42
12 15 ms 14 ms 13 ms mail.openweb.co.za [41.72.150.7]

Just did it again... very erratic

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms DD-WRT [192.168.3.1]
2 11 ms 9 ms 10 ms 196-210-146-1.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.146.
1]
3 24 ms 24 ms 17 ms cdsl1-rba-vl2153.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.169]
4 45 ms 50 ms 52 ms cdsl1-rba-vl150.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.17]
5 98 ms 124 ms 132 ms core1a-pkl-te-1-1.ip.isnet.net [196.26.0.60]
6 27 ms 29 ms 23 ms ar2-rba-gi0-1.ip.isnet.net [168.209.1.172]
7 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms mi-za-rba-gsrpe2-gi1-1-0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.8
6.250]
8 37 ms 33 ms 26 ms 196.26.120.162
9 49 ms 51 ms 53 ms core-access-switch1.jnb1.host-h.net [197.189.193
.1]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 40 ms 15 ms 17 ms 41.203.24.42
12 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms mail.openweb.co.za [41.72.150.7]
 
I know what shaping is and how it works. It just they make it sound like its something you buy at Makro in a box, with a 1 year warranty. I'm actually just upset with OW's support staff. Talking to a person like they are children. I lost my cool last night. Not cool, I know. But man it is frustrating.

i rest my case.
 
They drop the ball with support on weekends.


Thanks To the random act of kindness i got sent a user name and password to use in the mean time.
And this confirms the problem is on openwebs side cause im using this borrowed account right now to send this message
 
Sigh, my OW account died this evening until I restarted my router :( Web browsing's slow. Not good :(
 
For some strange reason my NNTP is very slow, 150-220 KB/s (on 4mb GK), I thought it is unshaped until monday 8am?
Quick tracert show no problem with exchange, gonna test my afrihost quickly to double check

Code:
C:\Users\ItherNiT>tracert www.openweb.co.za

Tracing route to www.openweb.co.za [41.72.150.7]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    41 ms    45 ms     *     196-210-158-129.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.15
8.129]
  3    45 ms    43 ms    45 ms  cdsl2-rba-vl2563.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.213]
  4    50 ms    49 ms    47 ms  cdsl2-rba-vl150.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.9]
  5    42 ms    41 ms    47 ms  168.209.1.140
  6    42 ms    43 ms    39 ms  ar1-rba-gi0-0.ip.isnet.net [196.26.0.32]
  7    49 ms    36 ms    35 ms  mi-za-rba-gsrpe1-gi2-0-2.ip.isnet.net [168.209.8
6.122]
  8     *       38 ms    43 ms  196.26.120.162
  9    97 ms    52 ms    49 ms  core-access-switch1.jnb1.host-h.net [197.189.193
.1]
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11    55 ms    53 ms    42 ms  41.203.24.42
 12    45 ms    45 ms    51 ms  www.openweb.co.za [41.72.150.7]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\ItherNiT>tracert www.theverge.com

Tracing route to fallback.global-ssl.fastly.net [103.245.222.184]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    33 ms    27 ms    27 ms  196-210-158-129.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.15
8.129]
  3    49 ms    35 ms    58 ms  cdsl1-rba-vl2360.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.133]
  4    44 ms    57 ms     *     cdsl1-rba-vl150.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.17]
  5    74 ms    82 ms   116 ms  core2-pkl-t0-7-0-0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.1.163]

  6   241 ms   255 ms   260 ms  168.209.201.73
  7   280 ms   203 ms   216 ms  195.50.124.33
  8   217 ms   218 ms   237 ms  vl-3601-ve-225.csw2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.166
.145]
  9   224 ms   238 ms     *     ae-59-224.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.153.141]

 10   217 ms   262 ms   236 ms  ae-22-22.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.148.19
0]
 11   220 ms   220 ms   211 ms  ae-72-72.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.22
]
 12   243 ms   224 ms   227 ms  ae-2-70.edge3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.154.71
]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14   242 ms   229 ms   228 ms  103.245.222.184

Trace complete.


Never mind, seems to be a telkom problem, afrihost also running at same speed :(
 
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I do apologise. Your issue was my fault as I did not remove the port reset script from your account.

All should be ok now?

at least you got some slow browsing .... mine was roadkill dead. This was not cool as i needed to finish some work
 
Hi DJ

I apologise for the delay in support.

We have been focusing on a new product today with strat sessions and the like.

Your issue was related to the account holder reaching his usage limit. I do see that Leon has replied to your ticket. I also replied to your PM

Also appears to be no general working happening at Openweb today. The only replies I've got from support are automated...
 
i have no words

Hi DJ

I apologise for the delay in support.

We have been focusing on a new product today with strat sessions and the like.

Your issue was related to the account holder reaching his usage limit. I do see that Leon has replied to your ticket. I also replied to your PM
 
i have no words

Believe it or not, I don't think it's MrBeep's job to sit on this thread 24/7 to be at the beck and call of everyone. Sure, it's nice having the guy who owns the ISP take such a deep interest in his customers, but he is also human and he does have an ISP to run!

Far be it from me to leap to his defense though, I would also lose my cool if I had terrible internet for most of a day. As you can see though, he has responded (albeit a bit late) and admitted fault. Most ISPs would just give a generic brush off answer.
 
Hi DJ

I apologise for the delay in support.

We have been focusing on a new product today with strat sessions and the like.

Your issue was related to the account holder reaching his usage limit. I do see that Leon has replied to your ticket. I also replied to your PM

Appreciate the response, but to put this into context a little for you, when weekend support is limited to emails and they go hours unaddressed with no internet and no access to the UserCP because the account is capped and there's no way to know this (as it doesn't state as such, it simply cuts one's connection on the router), it comes across quite poorly. The issue in question has resulted in a new client (the guy I convinced to sign up with Openweb) considering moving back to his old ISP as he's had no internet the entire day and still doesn't. He probably won't have until some time tomorrow, and no doubt I'm going to be dragged over to his place now to "fix it" for him. My good Samaritan ways only extend so far.

I've convinced him to stick with you guys and have in fact convinced him now to upgrade his account with you guys, but with people like him who "just want things to work" they can be rather finicky creatures when it comes to support like that.

I only tell you this so that you can get honest feedback and use it to address this, which I have no doubt you will. As a marginally more technically adept user, I can be more forgiving than the bloke in question.

DJ...
 
Believe it or not, I don't think it's MrBeep's job to sit on this thread 24/7 to be at the beck and call of everyone. Sure, it's nice having the guy who owns the ISP take such a deep interest in his customers, but he is also human and he does have an ISP to run!

Far be it from me to leap to his defense though, I would also lose my cool if I had terrible internet for most of a day. As you can see though, he has responded (albeit a bit late) and admitted fault. Most ISPs would just give a generic brush off answer.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I do however think that issues addressed to support should be viewed very differently, and that is what I am referring to.

There's no need to blow this out of proportion though (much to the dismay of what appears to be a few trolls hellbent on bitching about Openweb at every opportunity) - this is a minor hiccup and as it turns out was someone who had hit their cap, but in this case there was no way to know - the router just drops the connection and does not indicate as such. And when emails are web-based and usage tracking only available via email notification and the UserCP, this becomes a real issue when the internet dies.

This is a feedback thread, and it's omnidirectional - feedback from users to other user; feeeback from Openweb to users; and feedback from users to Openweb. I like to think that MrBEEP takes the feedback seriously, and in all honestly, Openweb did not present their best side to a new client today. There's no point in trying to sugar-coat something like that for the sake of it. Helps nobody. But by the same token it also doesn't help when others use legit feedback to berate a company...
 
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