Router Battery Backup

creemyv said:
Going through this thread it loos like the Ratel 8100 (Or the rebranded Netogy) are the best/only option I have? Don't mind spending more for a bigger battery since they eventually degrade, but I didn't find any bigger capacities with 19V outputs.
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Just to clarify... The Netogy UPS is not a rebranded Ratel.
They are made in the same factory, but neither is a rebrand of the other.
 
Hi all,

Forgive me for my request for being slightly OT - can someone advise on what to use as power backup on a 16-port POE Switch, the only info it gives me is as follows:
max power per port: 30W
max power budget: 150W
Voltage: 100-240V / 50-60Hz

Currently I am using a mini inverter/12V battery backup, but have to manually unplug switch, and plug it in the inverter ( hope it make sense ) - the plug is the std 3-pin IEC plug/cord...
I am already using several of these mini up's on my routers & AP's - I now just need a plan for my switch.

Thanks,
 
dualmeister said:
Stage 6 .... let's see if my UPS can do 4.5 hours :unsure:
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I have a seperate mini UPS on each device, 2x routers and 1x ONT. Should have no problems because they're way over provisioned. I think I forgot to plugh in my mini Ellies Cube UPS (the 98Whr one) for 48h and it ran my router that long before I spotted my mistake.
 
Hi, Not sure if it was asked before. I have a UltraLan with the one POE output and need two unifi AP's to work with it. I can get one to work but need a adaptor or something to link the second one.

Any advice would be great, Or is there another unit that would handle both? Thanks

My Setup:

ONT
Unifi USG
2 X Unifi Lite AP's
 
Hey. Which of the following mini ups would be the better pick?
I don't know much about these.
Looking at powering my router and ont.
Each 12V/1 AMP

Gizzu is a well known brand.
Titan just came out?
Gizzu looks like it has cheap build quality?
Titan looks premium and has a mini display and overall better specs.

Check this out on takealot: Gizzu 60W DC 65Wh Mini UPS - Black

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Check this out on takealot: TITAN Elecstor 100W Mini UPS 24000mAh - 75WH

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Both those are overkill. Look for a normal Gizzu, R900 odd. My 8800mah one is now old and just survived a 4 hour stint, no issues.
 
I am a bit (actually a lot) in the dark here.

I have a Gizzu GUP100W. Fibre CPE and (bog standard) router are in different areas, and the two are too far apart to be powered from it.

So, I am trying to figure out the easiest way to:

Have WiFi in a central location, with the option of extending if necessary, as well as one or two wired connections.

Can someone draw me a crayon picture of what I would need to go about doing this? At the moment I am considering just getting another UPS, but I am trying to figure out the most sensible manner in which to do this.

Herewith a technical diagram of the current setup:

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copacetic said:
I am a bit (actually a lot) in the dark here.

I have a Gizzu GUP100W. Fibre CPE and (bog standard) router are in different areas, and the two are too far apart to be powered from it.

So, I am trying to figure out the easiest way to:

Have WiFi in a central location, with the option of extending if necessary, as well as one or two wired connections.

Can someone draw me a crayon picture of what I would need to go about doing this? At the moment I am considering just getting another UPS, but I am trying to figure out the most sensible manner in which to do this.

Herewith a technical diagram of the current setup:

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Another UPS is the only solution imho:
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Just to confirm, you have a <cpe><--wiredLan--><router>.<--wiredLan-->.<possible router>

You can do all* from one UPS. Just get a passive POE splitter on both ends, where the '.' is, I have done it many times, work like a charm... do you have a secondary router?

*Excl. the wall powered repeater of course. But those tend to cause more issues than what they solve in any case.
 
ld13 said:
Just to confirm, you have a <cpe><--wiredLan--><router>.<--wiredLan-->.<possible router>

You can do all from one UPS. Just get a passive POE splitter on both ends, where the '.' is, I have done it many times, work like a charm... do you have a secondary router?
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I am probably going to ask a super silly question here (your text diagram is correct):

CPE and router are far apart and obviously both need to be powered. What is the POE splitter doing? I have a spare router, yes, from years ago.

I'm actually a bit embarrassed about my lack of understanding here. I feel old, ffs.
 
copacetic said:
I am probably going to ask a super silly question here (your text diagram is correct):

CPE and router are far apart and obviously both need to be powered. What is the POE splitter doing? I have a spare router, yes, from years ago.

I'm actually a bit embarrassed about my lack of understanding here. I feel old, ffs.
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It is just a carrier for the power, so you inject the power onto the lan cable at the Gizzu end and on the far end you have another splitter to split the power from the lan cable.

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So, to break it down, as your Gizzu have multiple outputs:

One output to the 'main' router, as is. Done.

Another output to the splitter, with the LAN end of the splitter plugged into the 'main' router. At the CPE end, you then split the LAN into LAN and DC power that plugs into the CPE.
Another output on the Gizzu to the splitter, with the LAN end of the splitter plugged into the 'main' router. At the Second router end, you then split the LAN into LAN and DC power that plugs into the second router.

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If that makes sense?

What voltages are we looking at though for the CPE/router/second router, and how far is far?
 
ld13 said:
It is just a carrier for the power, so you inject the power onto the lan cable at the Gizzu end and on the far end you have another splitter to split the power from the lan cable.

View attachment 1437897
So, to break it down, as your Gizzu have multiple outputs:

One output to the 'main' router, as is. Done.

Another output to the splitter, with the LAN end of the splitter plugged into the 'main' router. At the CPE end, you then split the LAN into LAN and DC power that plugs into the CPE.
Another output on the Gizzu to the splitter, with the LAN end of the splitter plugged into the 'main' router. At the Second router end, you then split the LAN into LAN and DC power that plugs into the second router.

View attachment 1437893

If that makes sense?

What voltages are we looking at though for the CPE/router/second router, and how far is far?
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Aah, right!

Yep, absolutely makes sense - It did not occur to me that you can get splitters like that. Speaking of, where would I find such a thing?

Distance is not far - ten metres or so.

Thanks again, super helpful.
 
copacetic said:
Aah, right!

Yep, absolutely makes sense - It did not occur to me that you can get splitters like that. Speaking of, where would I find such a thing?

Distance is not far - ten metres or so.

Thanks again, super helpful.
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First check that your CPE does not run on active POE - aka, does it take a normal barrel DC plug?

R50 a pop at Scoop, R44 at Geewiz or, bargain of the year, R129 on Takealot thx to the irritating 3rd party sellers.
 
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