Samsung Galaxy S3

Grimspoon said:
I get about 10 % drain over about 7 - 8 hours overnight. :(
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That is not bad if you are actually using your phone and not shutting down all services?

I am sitting at 2.4% PH now and I have wifi, data, bluetooth, location services and sync on. I am happy with this. The phone is being used for it's intended purpose and the drain is acceptable.

Night time I am not too phased about because the phone lives on a Philips AS851 dock and is charging. If it was not docked I would lose around 15% overnight which is perfectly acceptable to me.

This morning when taking the kids to school, my son sat playing Bad Piggies and Temple Run. Was just under 30 minutes. Still with all the above services on. In total from coming off charge to getting to the office 1.5 hours and 30 mins gaming.
Dropped 8%. I can live with this. Especially compared to what I had before the swap out.
 
I agree that switching off all these services is a little silly as that defeats the object of a smartphone. I do not leave as many services on as Mike Smit though. I use Llama to switch off mobile data when I am at home and switch on wifi and vice versa when leaving home. And bluetooth I mainly use with my HRM when exercising so when I open the Endomondo app I get Llama to switch on Bluetooth too and then I switch it off manually when I am finished. I only have a few things that sync, not Facebook and the like as those I will do manually when I access them. I also have wifi and mobile data switch off between 1am and 6am every night as I don't need them then.
 
ClintZA said:
I agree that switching off all these services is a little silly as that defeats the object of a smartphone. I do not leave as many services on as Mike Smit though. I use Llama to switch off mobile data when I am at home and switch on wifi and vice versa when leaving home. And bluetooth I mainly use with my HRM when exercising so when I open the Endomondo app I get Llama to switch on Bluetooth too and then I switch it off manually when I am finished. I only have a few things that sync, not Facebook and the like as those I will do manually when I access them. I also have wifi and mobile data switch off between 1am and 6am every night as I don't need them then.
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Maybe I can learn something here.

At home I also use Wifi and assumed that when Wifi automatically activated at home that mobile data would switch off. Does mobile data still drain battery even though wifi is active?
I also use Llama but never bothered setting this up as I assumed mobile data off when wifi on was implied?
 
Mike Smit said:
Maybe I can learn something here.

At home I also use Wifi and assumed that when Wifi automatically activated at home that mobile data would switch off. Does mobile data still drain battery even though wifi is active?
I also use Llama but never bothered setting this up as I assumed mobile data off when wifi on was implied?
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Not sure to tell you the truth. The fact that it still showed mobile data as being on concerned me that it must have some effect on battery drain, perhaps still polling for cell towers. I also did not want my phone connecting to the mobile network if my wifi went down and accidentally watching a stack of YouTube videos while on the network and not wifi.

Perhaps someone can confirm if mobile data still uses resources if on while wifi is in use.
 
Mike Smit said:
Maybe I can learn something here.

At home I also use Wifi and assumed that when Wifi automatically activated at home that mobile data would switch off. Does mobile data still drain battery even though wifi is active?
I also use Llama but never bothered setting this up as I assumed mobile data off when wifi on was implied?
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I have Tasker, and was asking on XDA some time back on help to switch off mobile data when wifi was connected. I was told that mobile data is switched off automatically when wifi is on, so there's no point in trying to get Tasker to do it.
 
Gamer said:
I have Tasker, and was asking on XDA some time back on help to switch off mobile data when wifi was connected. I was told that mobile data is switched off automatically when wifi is on, so there's no point in trying to get Tasker to do it.
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I understood it to be this way too. Clint threw a spanner in the works :)
 
Gamer said:
yeah, I've played with saving mode on and off, no difference to me on my phone. Always lightning (Nova launcher).
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Just switched from TouchWiz to Nova, on stock ICS. Nova is indeed very very fast in comparison to TW.
 
I have a brand new S3 (pebble blue) - unopened.

anyone want to swop for a Note 2.

or does anyone know a shop I can swop it at?
 
Gamer said:
I have Tasker, and was asking on XDA some time back on help to switch off mobile data when wifi was connected. I was told that mobile data is switched off automatically when wifi is on, so there's no point in trying to get Tasker to do it.
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Interesting as I just accessed an XDA link that stated it remains connected. Someone mentioned needing mobile data to retrieve MMSs. The fact that this can be done means that it must be polling the cell towers every so often for packets. Seems like common sense that it must be using some battery power. Surely?
 
Mike Smit said:
I understood it to be this way too. Clint threw a spanner in the works :)
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Fair enough, but if one is getting good battery results, what does it matter? Another hour out of your phone over a 36 hour period? I don't know, I'm just thumb sucking a figure here. I used to fret about battery life. I eventually took away the "show battery percentage" setting in JB as I would find myself always looking there first when switching the screen on. Always trying to work out how much has been used since the last time, oh no, 1% extra this hour than last hour, what went wrong, find the spook in the system, yet the whole time I was getting a good battery life (in fact, more than double the life I was getting out of my S2) and was very satisfied overall.
I have definitely found little custom mods played a big impact on my battery life. There was a battery indicator mod, changing it to percentage with your own custom set of images. If I flashed that mod to the phone, battery life was killed. If I "Froze" certain apps, battery life would suffer (almost as if there were links to other active apps, that tried to search for the frozen ones).
I eventually got over my battery life obsession, uninstalled Tasker, LLama and all those other kind of apps, I leave my wifi on, bluetooth on (connecting to my car kit), screen on auto brightness, Nova launcher is my default launcher, Friendcaster with push notifications, selected frozen apps and I do stick it into airplane mode when closing my eyes at night and back to full when waking up in the morning as the alarm goes off. Average battery life is 36 hours and no stressing about whether it's 35 hours today but it was 37 hours yesterday.
 
ClintZA said:
Interesting as I just accessed an XDA link that stated it remains connected. Someone mentioned needing mobile data to retrieve MMSs. The fact that this can be done means that it must be polling the cell towers every so often for packets. Seems like common sense that it must be using some battery power. Surely?
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But even with mobile data off, you still need to poll the cell towers just to make/receive calls don't you?

To be honest, this is stuff I never considered. Very interested to see how all this works.
 
Gamer said:
Fair enough, but if one is getting good battery results, what does it matter? Another hour out of your phone over a 36 hour period? I don't know, I'm just thumb sucking a figure here. I used to fret about battery life. I eventually took away the "show battery percentage" setting in JB as I would find myself always looking there first when switching the screen on. Always trying to work out how much has been used since the last time, oh no, 1% extra this hour than last hour, what went wrong, find the spook in the system, yet the whole time I was getting a good battery life (in fact, more than double the life I was getting out of my S2) and was very satisfied overall.
I have definitely found little custom mods played a big impact on my battery life. There was a battery indicator mod, changing it to percentage with your own custom set of images. If I flashed that mod to the phone, battery life was killed. If I "Froze" certain apps, battery life would suffer (almost as if there were links to other active apps, that tried to search for the frozen ones).
I eventually got over my battery life obsession, uninstalled Tasker, LLama and all those other kind of apps, I leave my wifi on, bluetooth on (connecting to my car kit), screen on auto brightness, Nova launcher is my default launcher, Friendcaster with push notifications, selected frozen apps and I do stick it into airplane mode when closing my eyes at night and back to full when waking up in the morning as the alarm goes off. Average battery life is 36 hours and no stressing about whether it's 35 hours today but it was 37 hours yesterday.
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If you went through what I went through the last 3 weeks, you would fret about every little % dude. I was ready to turf my phone in the toilet.
Battery prior to this incident never used to be an issue to me, and in time (hopefully only a few days) my current obsession with it will fall away to normal again.

As long as I can get a full day out of my phone with moderate to heavy use - I am happy. It charges up again at night while sleeping, so a full days use it what counts most to me. As things stand, I should be able to achieve much more than that.
 
Mike Smit said:
If you went through what I went through the last 3 weeks, you would fret about every little % dude. I was ready to turf my phone in the toilet.
Battery prior to this incident never used to be an issue to me, and in time (hopefully only a few days) my current obsession with it will fall away to normal again.

As long as I can get a full day out of my phone with moderate to heavy use - I am happy. It charges up again at night while sleeping, so a full days use it what counts most to me. As things stand, I should be able to achieve much more than that.
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I get it. I am certain with a daily overnight charge you'll be fine :)
 
iceman23 said:
I have a brand new S3 (pebble blue) - unopened.

anyone want to swop for a Note 2.

or does anyone know a shop I can swop it at?
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If you come right with this, please let me know. I would love to get my hands on a Note 2 myself.

The urge to just go buy one comes strong, then subsides, then comes strong... Damned internal war going on here.
 
Mike Smit said:
But even with mobile data off, you still need to poll the cell towers just to make/receive calls don't you?

To be honest, this is stuff I never considered. Very interested to see how all this works.
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That is indeed true. Also Llama itself uses the cell tower polling to ascertain your position. I have searched and there seem to be conflicting stories. Some claim it does save some battery, others claim none at all. I suppose, as mentioned, for me it is more about not accidentally using mobile data while assuming I am on wifi. If it means a little extra battery life at the same time then so be it.

It would be interesting to hear an "expert" opinion on this matter though. As you mentioned the phone would be checking cell towers for incoming calls etc all the time anyway so does it do anything different to check for any incoming or outgoing data? Or is it the same thing.
 
Anyone else experiencing DATA connection not re-connecting if connection is lost? I need to go to Flight Mode and then go-Back for the connection to conect again.

I'm on MTN with Wi-Fi & GPS on.

Thanks
 
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