SWC in SA a "BIG MISTAKE"!

Just answer me a simple question: Why "pre aprtheid" we went to Hillbrow 2am in the morning with many restaurants still opened and we walked on the street without any fear? Can we do the same now? If you could answer, then you answered why we never trust "ANC's Stats - post apartheid -> less crime".

Noxi was kind enough to answer this already. Have a read through this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_decay

So now how exactly does that answer confirm what you hoped it would?
 
Neil Watson and his supporters should scare off all tourists from visiting SA.
And what will that achieve?

I wonder, do Brazillians dedicate this much effort to scaring people out of visiting their country?
 
This is the problem we have.... people will only believe stats that say what they want them to. I can say with almost 100% certainty that stats pre 1994 would not be worth the paper they were written on. Remember that prior to 1994 the loss of a black life was not worth reporting.

What makes you believe the current stats are accurate considering that our former police chief was in bed with a well-known gangster? It's also known that police regularly 'lose' dockets or simply don't register crimes.
 
Noxi was kind enough to answer this already. Have a read through this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_decay

So now how exactly does that answer confirm what you hoped it would?

no..... you missed the point.

if you don't like Hillbrow, so give me a place you are feel free to walk on the street after dark with many restaurants and entertainments open over night in SOITH AFRICA!
 
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no..... yo missed the point.

if you don't like Hillbrow, so give me a place you are feel free to walk on the street after dark with many restaurants and entertainments open over night in SOITH AFRICA!

I am a Durban boy so it would have to be Florida road. And in Cape Town probably the waterfront. And in Johannesburg, what is that area called, Melville or something?

And I get your point. Your point is to desperately show that things are so much worse now.
 
What makes you believe the current stats are accurate considering that our former police chief was in bed with a well-known gangster? It's also known that police regularly 'lose' dockets or simply don't register crimes.

Strawman.
 
no..... you missed the point.

if you don't like Hillbrow, so give me a place you are feel free to walk on the street after dark with many restaurants and entertainments open over night in SOITH AFRICA!
Melville, Parkhurst, Fourways, Rivonia Boulevard, Melrose Arch. I could go on, and that's only Jhb.
 
And what will that achieve?

I wonder, do Brazillians dedicate this much effort to scaring people out of visiting their country?

Actually, I lived in Brazil for 3 months last year. They were telling me horror stories about the crime in their country every single day.

And yes, they also doubted hosting the World Cup in their country.
 
Melville? Parkhurst? are you joking with me?

Fourways, where? You mean "monte"?
Rivonia and Melrose Arch you considered as a "street"?
Fine stay home then, nobody's forcing you to go out. Just don't moan when you're presented with examples where people of all backgrounds walk around freely.
 
I am a Durban boy so it would have to be Florida road. And in Cape Town probably the waterfront. And in Johannesburg, what is that area called, Melville or something?

Florida road is my favorite when I'm in Durbs. But I walk freely around the south beach areas and restaurants. Here in Joburg, Melville. Pre 1994, I would never dare go to many townships including Soweto. Now I often club in Soweto. I see Jamie Oliver was taken about his experience at Mzoli's in Gugulethu.
 
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