The Official 3G Iphone Thread

Did you register here just to provide a reference for Rendier in his sales drive? Sounds like desperation.

Desperation from whom?

I personally don't think either of us are desperate. He emailed me and asked whether he should post something after the insults I got yesterday and I said if he wants to he can.

So according to your mindset it's fine if people rip me and my products but when someone backs me up it's desperation?

Wow. The ignorance.
 
OK, since you asked...

You claimed that there was no difference between the phones you are supplying and the ones available from these other guys when there clearly is a difference as yours are unofficial imports that require a turbosim (and some sort of hacked activation I assume) to enable the phone features on local networks and theirs are legitimately sold as unlocked devices imported from countries where the iPhone can be bought unlocked and therefore can be used on any network without any hacking or hardware intervention.

That's what misinformation.

As for your warranty: your saying there is a warranty that requires posting the device to another country at the expense of the person wishing to redeem the warranty is hardly a rock solid prospect, frankly I'd sooner take my chances with a reputable local dealer - regardless of what your opinion of their service is.

Further the warranty issue: what is necessary in order to activate an iPhone 3G for use with turbosim and how does this affect Apples 1 year warranty?

Further the posting issue: since you admit that out postal service is less than trustworthy - where exactly do you plan to post from?

Back to my original point: it seems that purchasing with peace of mind from you requires a whole lot of trust in what you have to say, when you misinform on issues pointed out by another supplier that trust becomes tricky and if JK8 is correct then buying from you at the same price that one can legitimately purchase from a reputable local dealer is outright stupidity.

Offer the service by all means but be honest about the issues and don't try to dupe people into buying from you, its a crappy way to do business and it will bring disrepute to the forum.

IMO, as someone who is hoping to do business with the people on this forum you could really do with dialing back the sarcasm and taking a more level headed tone, as it stands you do not seem like the type of chap I'd like to have to deal with should something go wrong with a device I had bought from you - think about that.

Firstly:

I claimed that there is no difference unless they got it from Italy etc where it is unlocked... So there was no misinformation. Secondly their phones are also grey imports no matter how you look at it.

Secondly:

I offer something that is not yet available in this country and has done so for the last 7+ months with the original iPhone and now with the iPhone 3G. I have over 65 satisfied customers that has not had one single problem with any of my phones. Now you come to the fore trying to disrespect me and what I sell. I never ever degraded what iGear offered. I stated that they make everyone elses products (like mine) seem cheap by saying "don't be fooled" etc.

I also don't recommend to my buyers to get Turbosim, ask any of them. But even taking that in to mind you can simply take it out. Restore via Itunes and ship it back to get a new one or fixed if anything goes wrong. Millions of ppl hack their phones so please don't take the moral high ground and say what about the warranty... It's covered and if you don't believe me then remember that Google is your friend.

Where do I ship from you ask? Fedex, UPS etc.

Thirdly:

My phone is R2000 cheaper than iGear so where do you come up with "the same as a reputable dealer"? What "trust" do you speak of? It's simple. Transfer the money into my account. If you feel your being skrewed over claim a reversal. After all, you have my bank account with all my information such as address, id number etc.

It seems that you got the wrong impression of me from the get go. I never insulted iGear. I just simply said their price is very high and also that they make me. a importer, sound like a terrorist. So please don't accuse me of what they are doing.

I have always be honest regarding my service and when wrong immediately stated that I was wrong when I realise it, as I did with the SA Itunes. Please tell me where else I was lying.

Finally:

You say Im sarcastic. Well after your attack, at me and my product straight off the bat, what did you expect. A smile? I have 10 pre orders for the phone as stock is arriving on Friday. I honestly don't expect you to buy from me because clearly you have issue with me without even knowing a bit about me. Having Sold more than 65 units I have had a lot of criticism regarding me and my product but ALL of my clients are happy. That should say something.

Sorry if I took the initiative and offered a phone not available to the general public. And sorry if my warranty doesn't look as shiny and good as vodacom or igears on paper but at least I try and do succeed.

AND:

You claimed that there was no difference[/B] between the phones you are supplying and the ones available from these other guys when there clearly is a difference as yours are unofficial imports that require a turbosim (and some sort of hacked activation I assume) to enable the phone features on local networks and theirs are legitimately sold as unlocked devices imported from countries where the iPhone can be bought unlocked and therefore can be used on any network without any hacking or hardware intervention.

This Reputable dealer you speak of is selling the exact same phone as I do because iGear gives a Turbosim with their phones.Who is lying now? Guess all you theories about warranty etc has just flown out the window.
 
Just fyi (if this has not already been done somewhere in this forum) a response I got from Vodacom customers services today - and looking at it I do not hold much hope of it being launched any time soon:

"Thank you for your e-mail communication to Vodacom.

We apologise for the impression that the entire Pre-launch period has left. It is understandable that there are many interested people who have been kept in the dark and are now upset about it.

The truth is that due to a number of factors, the handset had to be tested before launch which was initially planned for the third quarter of 2008 and is still the case.

Due to a number of factors the launch has been delayed. One key reason is that the iPhone is not directly compatible with the current download content being offered locally. The setback is mainly due to the iTunes availability in South Africa. Apple only allows the iPhone to download content from iTunes. If this is not available locally, Vodacom will be handing out devices that cannot be used the way they should.

Until these technicalities are resolved and the handset can be used effectively Vodacom cannot release the device. We risk having every local iPhone user unhappy.

I hope this information addresses your query effectively."
 
Just fyi (if this has not already been done somewhere in this forum) a response I got from Vodacom customers services today - and looking at it I do not hold much hope of it being launched any time soon:

"Thank you for your e-mail communication to Vodacom.

We apologise for the impression that the entire Pre-launch period has left. It is understandable that there are many interested people who have been kept in the dark and are now upset about it.

The truth is that due to a number of factors, the handset had to be tested before launch which was initially planned for the third quarter of 2008 and is still the case.

Due to a number of factors the launch has been delayed. One key reason is that the iPhone is not directly compatible with the current download content being offered locally. The setback is mainly due to the iTunes availability in South Africa. Apple only allows the iPhone to download content from iTunes. If this is not available locally, Vodacom will be handing out devices that cannot be used the way they should.

Until these technicalities are resolved and the handset can be used effectively Vodacom cannot release the device. We risk having every local iPhone user unhappy.

I hope this information addresses your query effectively."

So basically, no iPhone until we get iTunes music store. And Apple can't give us an Itunes music store until they've sorted out their licences with the local music producers.

Lovely.
 
What utter crap

Yes, the reason why it's delayed because of Vodacom's technical inability to do pretty much anything, its 3G/HSDPA network is broken 95% of the time to start off with. How can we expect them to test a phone??

Secondly.... SOUTH AFRICA HAS AN ITUNES STORE VODACOM!!!!!!! OPEN YOUR BLOODY EYES. It's an ITUNES APPSTORE. Which is ALL THAT THE IPHONE NEEDS...

Sorry for the caps but sometimes it's necessary...

So Vodacom sort your crap out for heavens sake.

EDIT: Everyone....Open iTunes on your computer...once it's loaded, scroll ALL the way down click the list and select SOUTH AFRICA... then explain to me what happens? ...yes it loads the South African iTunes Store, which is just an appstore, you don't need the entire iTunes store for the iPhone to function.
 
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iTunes SA has been live since July. This whole thing is a brilliant case study on how not to launch your product.

Guy in my office just got a call from Vodacom Woodmead, asking him to confirm his order for an iPhone.
 
/Conspiracy theory on

Maybe the other cell makers are bribing Vodacom to delay the iPhone a bit so they can introduce their "iphone killers" into the SA market first?

/Conspiracy theory off
 
Just fyi (if this has not already been done somewhere in this forum) a response I got from Vodacom customers services today - and looking at it I do not hold much hope of it being launched any time soon:

"Thank you for your e-mail communication to Vodacom.

We apologise for the impression that the entire Pre-launch period has left. It is understandable that there are many interested people who have been kept in the dark and are now upset about it.

The truth is that due to a number of factors, the handset had to be tested before launch which was initially planned for the third quarter of 2008 and is still the case.

Due to a number of factors the launch has been delayed. One key reason is that the iPhone is not directly compatible with the current download content being offered locally. The setback is mainly due to the iTunes availability in South Africa. Apple only allows the iPhone to download content from iTunes. If this is not available locally, Vodacom will be handing out devices that cannot be used the way they should.

Until these technicalities are resolved and the handset can be used effectively Vodacom cannot release the device. We risk having every local iPhone user unhappy.

I hope this information addresses your query effectively.
"

Dear mother of Chr#st!
What on earth are the people at Vodacom on?
"iPhone is not directly compatible with the current download content being offered locally"
This means that Vodacom is all pouty that they wont be able to sell off their ridiculous Vodafone Live service that TOTALY SUCKS CHOCOLATE BALLS. Who wants to buy games for R40 a pop and pathetic ringtones ect.

What is actually going on here is that Vodacom has realised : Oh shucks, if everything ends up going trough iTunes in the future (not that it will any time soon) they will be left completely out of the picture. So they wont be ripping people off on the latests true-tones etcetera.
I swear to Job(s) that if vodacom try to slap on their Vodafone branding onto the iPhone that Steve Jobs himself will send a nuclear warhead to destroy the Vodaworld Complex.

I can see it now:
"You switch your iPhone on for the very first time and what you see is not a glowing white apple logo booting up, but a disgusting dancing meerkat grinding up against the Vodacom logo."

The way vodacom has dealt with the entire iPhone pre-launch is just appalling.
 
Dear mother of Chr#st!
What on earth are the people at Vodacom on?
"iPhone is not directly compatible with the current download content being offered locally"
This means that Vodacom is all pouty that they wont be able to sell off their ridiculous Vodafone Live service that TOTALY SUCKS CHOCOLATE BALLS. Who wants to buy games for R40 a pop and pathetic ringtones ect.

What is actually going on here is that Vodacom has realised : Oh shucks, if everything ends up going trough iTunes in the future (not that it will any time soon) they will be left completely out of the picture. So they wont be ripping people off on the latests true-tones etcetera.
I swear to Job(s) that if vodacom try to slap on their Vodafone branding onto the iPhone that Steve Jobs himself will send a nuclear warhead to destroy the Vodaworld Complex.

I can see it now:
"You switch your iPhone on for the very first time and what you see is not a glowing white apple logo booting up, but a disgusting dancing meerkat grinding up against the Vodacom logo."

The way vodacom has dealt with the entire iPhone pre-launch is just appalling.

LOL e.cachucho you seem to be a little upset :D

But seriously I doubt vodacom would be able to brand the iPhone, Apple is the only one authorized to deliver updates for the phone through iTunes and even if Vodacom managed to brand the iPhone you could easily put your iPhone into DFU mode then restore the iPhone to stock using iTunes :)
 
Dear mother of Chr#st!
What on earth are the people at Vodacom on?
"iPhone is not directly compatible with the current download content being offered locally"
This means that Vodacom is all pouty that they wont be able to sell off their ridiculous Vodafone Live service that TOTALY SUCKS CHOCOLATE BALLS. Who wants to buy games for R40 a pop and pathetic ringtones ect.

What is actually going on here is that Vodacom has realised : Oh shucks, if everything ends up going trough iTunes in the future (not that it will any time soon) they will be left completely out of the picture. So they wont be ripping people off on the latests true-tones etcetera.
I swear to Job(s) that if vodacom try to slap on their Vodafone branding onto the iPhone that Steve Jobs himself will send a nuclear warhead to destroy the Vodaworld Complex.

I can see it now:
"You switch your iPhone on for the very first time and what you see is not a glowing white apple logo booting up, but a disgusting dancing meerkat grinding up against the Vodacom logo."

The way vodacom has dealt with the entire iPhone pre-launch is just appalling.

AGREED 100%...

and LOL at the meerkat "GRINDING" against the Vodacom Logo comment. Priceless.

I really wish MTN had the iPhone 3G deal instead of Vodacom.
 
PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING:

I received my last batch of iPhone 3G's today. All of them was pre ordered so at the moment I am all sold out.

I am waiting for Vodacom to make an announcement regarding the price. If I can offer it at the cheaper price or beat their contract price then I will bring more in.

So once the price is announced I will give you a price I can get it for and then you can pre-order it through me.

Thanks
Renaldo
 
Iphones gonna be here nxt week guys. make sure you book urs by ur dealer cos they gonna fly out fast. and make sure you tell the dealer or sales consultant to keep an iphone dock apart for you as well. They will have accesories for the iphone as well.
 
Iphones gonna be here nxt week guys. make sure you book urs by ur dealer cos they gonna fly out fast. and make sure you tell the dealer or sales consultant to keep an iphone dock apart for you as well. They will have accesories for the iphone as well.

THe dock should not be sold seperately it comes with the iPhone in the same box.
 
THe dock should not be sold seperately it comes with the iPhone in the same box.

AFAIK if it's an iPhone 3G, there's a USB sync/charge cable and a charger in the box, but if you want a normal-upright-dock-thing like the one that came with the original iPhone, you need to buy one separately.
 
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