The Workout and Fitness Thread

Tim_vb said:
As a wise man may have once said ...maybe don't do it if you get injuries :)

I'm thinking you could you swap out with military presses with a comfortable weight push jerks and combine with things like strict slow release pull ups and shoulder taps to build support
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I don't know about the wise man. Sounds like giving up and being a loser :P

However thank you very much for the second part. Those exercises sounds like great ideas to break through this plateau.

I am pretty certain though I have an imbalance in something on the left side, because when I do 42.5kg and 45kg barbell shoulder press, the left side starts to struggle and it is when these other muscles then start compensating for this imbalance where I then hurt the small stabiliser muscles. Whether it is the shoulder muscles or the triceps even, I think that is what I need to figure out. However I do far higher weights on bench press so I thought that meant the triceps is ok.
 
Tinuva said:
I don't know about the wise man. Sounds like giving up and being a loser :p

However thank you very much for the second part. Those exercises sounds like great ideas to break through this plateau.

I am pretty certain though I have an imbalance in something on the left side, because when I do 42.5kg and 45kg barbell shoulder press, the left side starts to struggle and it is when these other muscles then start compensating for this imbalance where I then hurt the small stabiliser muscles. Whether it is the shoulder muscles or the triceps even, I think that is what I need to figure out. However I do far higher weights on bench press so I thought that meant the triceps is ok.
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I am not sure a weight push jerk is a good idea if you have current issues. Slow, controlled movements with possible focus on the negative / eccentric might help get things right and avoid further injury
Machine shoulder press where you can do a single side at a time might help as well to isolate and strengthen each side individually.
You might possibly have a weakness on the Scapular Stabilizers as well which can become a common hindrance on things like military press
 
syntax said:
I am not sure a weight push jerk is a good idea if you have current issues. Slow, controlled movements with possible focus on the negative / eccentric might help get things right and avoid further injury
Machine shoulder press where you can do a single side at a time might help as well to isolate and strengthen each side individually.
You might possibly have a weakness on the Scapular Stabilizers as well which can become a common hindrance on things like military press
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Yeah look I said it is good ideas, but I have learned from past experience, finding the issue is more important than trying random things. So I have tried to figure it out myself but I will probably use a specialist to assist me finding the issue.

That said, I do not have a machine to shoulder press on at home, so thats unfortunately not an option.
 
Tinuva said:
Yeah look I said it is good ideas, but I have learned from past experience, finding the issue is more important than trying random things. So I have tried to figure it out myself but I will probably use a specialist to assist me finding the issue.

That said, I do not have a machine to shoulder press on at home, so thats unfortunately not an option.
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Good luck!!
My issues are easy to identify, im old and i can blame everything on that
 
syntax said:
This was my sport....man i miss this!
Jealous you get to play!
That looks like a fairly hectic match
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It shouldn't have been but it was. First time I've played in a few months so my fitness and skills were up to ****. Just won, 3-2.
 
Jehosefat said:
It shouldn't have been but it was. First time I've played in a few months so my fitness and skills were up to ****. Just won, 3-2.
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Was trying to figure out the score on the heart rate output :)
 
ajules said:
Out of interest where do the guys pushing heavy dumbbells grip the dumbbells on bench press?In the middle or more to the sides closest to the chest?
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Good question. I tend to be mostly in the middle but as I reach max weight I do move my grip very slightly inwards as you described. Together with wrist wraps it helps stability.

But i only got there after trying alternatives which feel right (make sure you have a spot to help)
 
this gave me motivation , Pushed a bit today for back , 180kg I got 7 reps with good form and a little bit of crying. So deadlift gonna try again in 2 weeks. I'll hope for 190 for 8.

Feeling it now haha.
 
bro-da said:
Good question. I tend to be mostly in the middle but as I reach max weight I do move my grip very slightly inwards as you described. Together with wrist wraps it helps stability.

But i only got there after trying alternatives which feel right (make sure you have a spot to help)
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I only use dumbells for incline and shoulder press
Same as Syntax, I just feel too awkward trying to lie back on a flat bench with heavy dumbells.
Oh and also, I train mostly alone.
 
Meister-Man said:
I only use dumbells for incline and shoulder press
Same as Syntax, I just feel too awkward trying to lie back on a flat bench with heavy dumbells.
Oh and also, I train mostly alone.
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Shoulder press with dumbbells start to become very awkward for me getting into the starting position when you are lifting 26kg + per dumbbell.
Been doing behind the neck press with a barbell and I get serious activation of my shoulders.I know it’s quite a controversial exercise so interested to hear what anyone else thinks!
 
ajules said:
Shoulder press with dumbbells start to become very awkward for me getting into the starting position when you are lifting 26kg + per dumbbell.
Been doing behind the neck press with a barbell and I get serious activation of my shoulders.I know it’s quite a controversial exercise so interested to hear what anyone else thinks!
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I think the weight it gets difficult may vary per individual. I use my knees to get them up and am generally ok with the weights. I have switched to a neutral grip when I do shoulder presses.

I much prefer the shoulder press machines though for very heavy and the smith machine press. This may just have to do with my general lower back problems anyway, but I often feel tweaks in my shoulders when using dumbells.

I almost never do a behind the neck press. I cant remember how it felt, but i know i abandoned the exercise a while ago and I can activate and work out all parts of my shoulders without it. I will look into it again but I am quite fortunate that my shoulders are a well developed part of my physique and I dont ever feel the need to change it.
I have put a significant effort into rear delts which has added a much better aesthetic look but also helped on other exercises and my posture overall
 
Started doing my farmers walks again with my hex bar, added hex bar deadlifts, rows and shrugs.
Been trying hard to improve my traps but have really enjoyed the farmers walks.

My grip strength has been poor since breaking my hand(s) and this really helps with overall strength, forearm and grip strength.

Going to do this for a month and see the outcome
 
ajules said:
Shoulder press with dumbbells start to become very awkward for me getting into the starting position when you are lifting 26kg + per dumbbell.
Been doing behind the neck press with a barbell and I get serious activation of my shoulders.I know it’s quite a controversial exercise so interested to hear what anyone else thinks!
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If it causes you no discomfort and you can hit a good range of motion, by all means.
I used to do it ages ago and I definitely felt it more in my traps than regular shoulder press.
 
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Warmup with rotational exercises, few minutes jump rope and dynamic stretches.

2 sets with 2 12kg kettlebells - Swings, front squats, pushup and renegade rows, Romanian deadlift, snatch, one-armed rows and 40 count plank.

Squats felt quite nice with the counterweight helping my form. Also the first time I've tried the snatch with two twelves which worked out quite well and didn't drop anything on my head!
 
ajules said:
Shoulder press with dumbbells start to become very awkward for me getting into the starting position when you are lifting 26kg + per dumbbell.
Been doing behind the neck press with a barbell and I get serious activation of my shoulders.I know it’s quite a controversial exercise so interested to hear what anyone else thinks!
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A little off topic but have you considered adding any handstand work or even working up to handstand push-ups if you're strong enough? Pike pushups being a regression but quite a challenging exercise in their own right.

I know it may not appeal to many lifters but these types of exercise are very good for your shoulder health and I would expect them to be pretty beneficial for your normal lifting.
 
Had to help a colleague with some out of hours maintenance this evening so no full work out today. I did get started with my pushups Microworkout prorgam this morning.

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I've done a couple of cookie cutter pushup programs before but I wanted to try creating my own so I made an Excel calculator a while back to generate a program but I haven't really tested it properly yet.

The idea is that you test your max number of pushups with good form, put your number into the calculator, follow the program for 2 weeks and then test again, update the calculator for the next 2 weeks program - rinse and repeat until you can do your target number of reps in one go (50 in my case)

It might need some tweaking to get the right rate of progression but day 1 had about the right mix of doable versus challenging so we'll see how it goes.

Will add in something similar for Pull-ups soon on the non-pushup days.
 
InvisibleJim said:
Had to help a colleague with some out of hours maintenance this evening so no full work out today. I did get started with my pushups Microworkout prorgam this morning.

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I've done a couple of cookie cutter pushup programs before but I wanted to try creating my own so I made an Excel calculator a while back to generate a program but I haven't really tested it properly yet.

The idea is that you test your max number of pushups with good form, put your number into the calculator, follow the program for 2 weeks and then test again, update the calculator for the next 2 weeks program - rinse and repeat until you can do your target number of reps in one go (50 in my case)

It might need some tweaking to get the right rate of progression but day 1 had about the right mix of doable versus challenging so we'll see how it goes.

Will add in something similar for Pull-ups soon on the non-pushup days.
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Keen to see how fast the progress is!
 
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