Trevor, Ivy’s Sentech clash

The_Unbeliever

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FINANCE Minister Trevor Manuel and Communications Minister Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri clashed at the weekend over her mismanagement of state-owned IT company Sentech.

Fixed it.

But last year the government gave Sentech R500-million to connect 250 of the country’s 500 flagship Dinaledi schools, which specialise in maths and science, to the Internet.

Manuel said: “That is a commitment they made … six months into the year, the R500-million is on the table, it’s there. Number of schools connected? Zero.

“Where is Parliament? Who calls the minister? Who calls the DG and says: “Six months of the year have elapsed. If you’re still at zero now, you’re not going to do these things over Christmas ... there’s a problem with your overseeing of Sentech,” he said.

Matsepe-Casaburri hit back in an interview on Saturday, saying Treasury had given her department less than half the money asked for to put all Dinaledi schools online.

Where went the other half to? If Trevor says R500mil (and we have to assume he's not lying) then somebody just got richer...
 

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well, if halfway down the year u havent done zilch with all that money, why do u think u should get more?:confused:
 

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How long does it take to decide which 250 schools?
Then she says she must consider which other departments need connectivity. Yet Trevor says the money was made available for schools. He never mentioned other departments.
 

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Either dear treavor or that other fat piggy is lying....i'll bet on the latter
 

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Either dear treavor or that other fat piggy is lying....i'll bet on the latter

I will trust Trevor - so far he has delivered on his promises... but the telecoms market is in a big mess, so naturally Ivy'll want to save face at the expense of the taxpayer :mad: :(
 

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Must be so frustrating for Trevor to try and work with the likes of Ivy.
 

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Okay maybe i'm just FAAAAAAAAAAR off the bandwagon here but why couldn't she just start to get a few schools connected if indeed she got half the money and not all of it? i am sure she could have connected at least 125 schools( quarter of the amount) with that money or am i just wrong?

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Okay so if you've received only half of the R500 million. Thats still R250 million. Why hasn't half of the schools been connected yet?

Half way down the year. If Trevor budgeted for R500 million but only gave them R250 million, I can understand why he's headbutting against a wall now with Ivy asking for MORE money (the other half) when there's no evidence that anything has been done!

Trevor for president! **** the rest. He'll "You've been evicted from the house" Ivy so fast it's going to make her head spin.
 

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And why the hell would Sentech need a loan of R800 million to not "miss the 3G bandwagon"

Way back when they were the FIRST wireless provider. If they continued good service and communication to their clients they won't be in the mess they're in now.

Trevor should just pull funding from Sentech entirely and open up the government entity to be sold to the private sector. Private sector at least respects and appreciates the fact that the consumer is what is driving business. NOT THE GOVERNMENT

If Sentech was setup as a business why don't they run it as such? Yet, they need to go back to government each time to ask for more and more money. What a crock of ****
 

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And why the hell would Sentech need a loan of R800 million to not "miss the 3G bandwagon"

Way back when they were the FIRST wireless provider. If they continued good service and communication to their clients they won't be in the mess they're in now.

Trevor should just pull funding from Sentech entirely and open up the government entity to be sold to the private sector. Private sector at least respects and appreciates the fact that the consumer is what is driving business. NOT THE GOVERNMENT

If Sentech was setup as a business why don't they run it as such? Yet, they need to go back to government each time to ask for more and more money. What a crock of ****

Hitting the nail on the head - bravo!

Business should fend for themselves, not rely on a handout from Govt if things goes tough... and this should also apply to SAA...
 

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Sentech would have done well in a Communist country, this isnt a Communist country.

Shes going too far, publicly taking on the real heavy weights in the ANC isnt a good idea. First she directly engages the communication authority, now this, this woman is a liability. Sorry I.V jou dae is nou amptelik getel.
 
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Okay so if you've received only half of the R500 million. Thats still R250 million.

Spanner in the works boys - Ivy is complaining that they only received half of the funds requested, and they received R500m, so they in fact they requested R1bn.

And R500m can make a huge difference.
 

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Trevor should just pull funding from Sentech entirely and open up the government entity to be sold to the private sector. Private sector at least respects and appreciates the fact that the consumer is what is driving business. NOT THE GOVERNMENT

If Sentech was setup as a business why don't they run it as such? Yet, they need to go back to government each time to ask for more and more money. What a crock of ****

+1
 

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And why the hell would Sentech need a loan of R800 million to not "miss the 3G bandwagon"

Way back when they were the FIRST wireless provider. If they continued good service and communication to their clients they won't be in the mess they're in now.

Trevor should just pull funding from Sentech entirely and open up the government entity to be sold to the private sector. Private sector at least respects and appreciates the fact that the consumer is what is driving business. NOT THE GOVERNMENT

If Sentech was setup as a business why don't they run it as such? Yet, they need to go back to government each time to ask for more and more money. What a crock of ****

You could not have said it better!
 

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not to take anyones side, but...

.... Private sector at least respects and appreciates the fact that the consumer is what is driving business. NOT THE GOVERNMENT

i hear you...but its' not like the private sector listen to consumers either :eek:
 

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:D :D about time too - this little debate has been rumbling on for ages. treasury's problem being that it is as obvious as the nose on the end of your face that this is throwing money down the toilet
- a national wimax network to connect up 500 schools?
- with no plans on continuing connectivity?
- run by sentech???

Ivy: but....but...Alec got to play with Infraco and i always said i wanted Sentech to be our national wireless backbone connectivity provider...s'not fair...how else are we going to provide connectivity to rural areas now that my USAL policy has been shown to be the biggest screw-up and swindle imaginable and now that i won't allow VANS to self-provide and am holding up the conversion process so that companies like Smile and UniNet cannot put their business plans in these areas? into practice

off with her head
sentech = signal distributor
 
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