Uncapped ADSL: How much data are you allowed to use?

Do you think a ‘Fair Use Policy’ on uncapped broadband services is a good thing?

  • Yes

    Votes: 158 64.0%

  • No

    Votes: 89 36.0%
  • Total voters
    247
PDonut said:
Asking the same question "How can you download over 200gig" is dumb - it can be done. As said a million times wont be automatically capped/shaped/cutoff/stabbed for doing say 300gig in a month - the problem is if you are doing it every month on and on. And its spelled out on the isp's websites that its not the right package for you then - cause if its not tons of pirated content that you're downloading then its business related which means you need a fully unshaped unlimited business package ala mweb style...
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The you CAN NOT call it uncapped!

What part of the word 'uncapped' do people not understand? Really, it's simple frigging English.
 
ponder said:
How about an experiment? You sign up for Afrihost and nail it all month long. When Afrihost contacts you about 'abuse' or wants to suspend the service you lodge a formal complaint with ASASA. Nip this thing in the butt once and for all :D

If I had a 4Mb/s line I would do it, I promise I would.

I'm frigging tired of companies selling products which do not measure up to their claims. You cannot have uncapped and then come with some policy contradicting uncapped, there is no ifs & buts, finish & klaar.
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Ja, I would... although I think we have plenty of guinea pigs on the water already. I'm sticking with my OpenWeb Uncapped where I know I am not going to get cut off. Besides, I have people relying on me so I can't just change my ISP. We'll know soon enough in a month or two who gets cut off and why they got cut off. We can take action then at that stage. :)
 
I think 100GB a month is reasonable but more than that is ridicilous. I can understand that a company would perhaps need more than 100GB a month but a single individual is out of the question. You have to download a lot of stuff to reach that cap.
 
So as I understand it they reserve the right to revoke the account of anyone they regard as an abuser, isn't it the right of any company to cancel a service to anyone they deem unprofitable?? Whether a gym or an ISP or even a cleaning company?
 
BrendanD said:
I agree with acceptable use policies since ISP's have the right to make a profit and other internet users have the right to an acceptable internet experience.

Extremely high usage clients should pay more for the priviledge of downloading excessive amounts.
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That's fine, we never disagreed with that. it sounds like a fair policy.

We're only disagreeing with the usage of the term "uncapped" which doesn't seem to be a valid description of these cheaper high usage products. :)

Look at it this way... OpenWeb, Axxess, Vodacom and a few other providers already have uncapped products on the market at a higher rate.

Now along comes Mweb and Afrihost also offering and "uncapped" product, but at a much cheaper rate.

But when you read the terms and conditions you find out, oh wait... this is not really uncapped, it is restricted... so that's why they can afford to offer it at a much cheaper rate.

Wouldn't you be a bit cheesed off that these newcomers are trying to compete with you... but with an inferior or sub standard product?

How fair is that? :confused: I wouldn't be suprised if those other uncapped providers have already contacted the ASASA.
 
Totally agree - these accounts are not properly uncapped. They should stipulate in T&C that they're capped. Those people wanting truly uncapped accounts and downloading in excess of 100 - 200 GB per month should be prepared to pay more.
 
McCracker said:
Totally agree - these accounts are not properly uncapped. They should stipulate in T&C that they're capped. Those people wanting truly uncapped accounts and downloading in excess of 100 - 200 GB per month should be prepared to pay more.
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as opposed to fake uncapped accounts? Gotcha! :)
 
As long as the fair use policy is communicated clearly up front, then it shouldn't be an issue for anyone. No use freaking out because you don't like the product - if you don't like it, get something else.

As I said in another post, a year ago we were paying R70/GB - that would be R14000 for 200GB, so let's not get upset about the progress we are indeed making.
 
AFAIK a cap means a fix amount of data... nowhere do they state a fix amount. They will take action only if you abuse the product by downloading 24/7.
 
Garyvdh said:
That's fine, we never disagreed with that. it sounds like a fair policy.

We're only disagreeing with the usage of the term "uncapped" which doesn't seem to be a valid description of these cheaper high usage products. :)

Look at it this way... OpenWeb, Axxess, Vodacom and a few other providers already have uncapped products on the market at a higher rate.

Now along comes Mweb and Afrihost also offering and "uncapped" product, but at a much cheaper rate.

But when you read the terms and conditions you find out, oh wait... this is not really uncapped, it is restricted... so that's why they can afford to offer it at a much cheaper rate.

Wouldn't you be a bit cheesed off that these newcomers are trying to compete with you... but with an inferior or sub standard product?

How fair is that? :confused: I wouldn't be suprised if those other uncapped providers have already contacted the ASASA.
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+1. I'd name the products "dynamically high capped" (since many of the ISPs don't/can't give a fixed maximum value for what would still be considered "fair usage").

I don't care what these other posters are smoking: by no stretch of the imagination can we call the products "uncapped".
 
I see it like this: You often get specials in your local newspaper...now some of them are cheap products at cheap prices [fill in ISP here] and then you get REAL specials which are good products at good prices [Fill in ISP here]...

So which is which with these un (BS) capped accounts? :)
 
ponder said:
The you CAN NOT call it uncapped!

What part of the word 'uncapped' do people not understand? Really, it's simple frigging English.
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It is uncapped for 98% of the users using it, which part of THAT can't you understand? If everybody stay within the fair usage policy - it will be uncapped for all 100% of the users. It's just freetards like you that can't get your thick heads around that little concept.
 
I think we should create a list of names that members can vote on to name these uncapped accounts correctly... OR how about a competition to come up with the correct name for these accounts :D
 
george_vg said:
I think we should create a list of names that members can vote on to name these uncapped accounts correctly... OR how about a competition to come up with the correct name for these accounts :D
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Lol . good idea.. why just not called it DSL 384 , 512 and 4 bit... and leave the uncapped out.
 
Slooth said:
So they reserve the right to cap you on an uncapped account? :o
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They're not reserving the right to cap you. They're reserving the right to terminate your a** when they realise that they don't want you on their network. I don't see any problem with that.
 
Garyvdh said:
what if I wanted to download the same Linux distribution three hundred times? :confused:

I want one for everyone in my local high school. ;)

So it's my right to do with my data whatever I want to do. :p

And it's my right to use an "uncapped" account to whatever limit I decide.
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It's also the ISP's right to decide that they don't want you as a customer. AFAIK Afrihost haven't said that they'd cap anyone who overruns their limits, they're just going to fire such people as customers.
 
at least the isp are upfront about limits on their üncapped accounts..

on a different tangent, what can we expect price wise when the new undersea cables are active with the next year ?

any major price drops expected ?
 
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