Which performance car for R500k?

The heart wants what it wants, you don't need us!

To be honest I just want my Alfa Romeo 159 back. It's been over two weeks and I've heard nothing from insurance. Yes, it's an old car with an extremely fuel-inefficient guzzling 3.2L V6 that gets outperformed by modern 2L hatchbacks - but it's extremely fun to drive, got plenty power on tap and had only done 80K km... It's still a baby!

Hopefully insurance come back and say the water damage is minimal, but being an Alfa, I'd imagine insurance companies would also just write them off when it comes to repairs - especially considering Alfa Romeo's non-existent resale value.

This is the reason I'm looking for new wheels;



The heart wants my Alfa back, but my eager petrol head is already looking for the next alternative.
 
To be honest I just want my Alfa Romeo 159 back. It's been over two weeks and I've heard nothing from insurance. Yes, it's an old car with an extremely fuel-inefficient guzzling 3.2L V6 that gets outperformed by modern 2L hatchbacks - but it's extremely fun to drive, got plenty power on tap and had only done 80K km... It's still a baby!

Hopefully insurance come back and say the water damage is minimal, but being an Alfa, I'd imagine insurance companies would also just write them off when it comes to repairs - especially considering Alfa Romeo's non-existent resale value.

This is the reason I'm looking for new wheels;



The heart wants my Alfa back, but my eager petrol head is already looking for the next alternative.
If you're an Alfa guy then seriously just get the Giulia. Nothing else is going to feel the same, not even a beemer...
 
The Giulia is hellishly expensive for anything above base spec though, but that 2.0T Super you linked has my eye.
They do pop up randomly over time.
Test drove on last year that stood at William Simpson for a while going for below R380k and less than 60k on the clock.
Was white in colour with normal halogens, hence I walked away.
 
They do pop up randomly over time.
Test drove on last year that stood at William Simpson for a while going for below R380k and less than 60k on the clock.
Was white in colour with normal halogens, hence I walked away.

That's what puts me off the Giulia - you're spending M3 money and getting halogen headlights and Citi Golf tyres.

If I can get a higher-spec 2.0T with the LED spec - I'm sold.
 
why you limiting yourself to new cars ? There are tons of proper performance cars that are + 10 years old.

As a subaru guy that wrx is a joke , its not a real subaru.
 
why you limiting yourself to new cars ? There are tons of proper performance cars that are + 10 years old.

As a subaru guy that wrx is a joke , its not a real subaru.
He wants an automatic...
 
why you limiting yourself to new cars ? There are tons of proper performance cars that are + 10 years old.

As a subaru guy that wrx is a joke , its not a real subaru.

New cars are so much better than old manuals. Technology has come a long way.

Trust me. I drove a 2002 MGTF 160 as a daily driver (the Mazda MX-5 or Toyota MR-2 competitor)... and the nasty 2021 Huyundi i10 I have as a current rental drives far better as an everyday driver.

Modern automatics are leagues ahead of any manual transmission. They shift faster, are more efficient and offer more feature comforts than a manual transmission. Those that believe otherwise are living in a previous decade and haven't touched a modern automatic.

It's like saying you prefer a landline telephone over a cellular one.
 
New cars are so much better than old manuals. Technology has come a long way.

Trust me. I drove a 2002 MGTF 160 as a daily driver (the Mazda MX-5 or Toyota MR-2 competitor)... and the nasty 2021 Huyundi i10 I have as a current rental drives far better as an everyday driver.

Modern automatics are leagues ahead of any manual transmission. They shift faster, are more efficient and offer more feature comforts than a manual transmission. Those that believe otherwise are living in a previous decade and haven't touched a modern automatic.

It's like saying you prefer a landline telephone over a cellular one.
There's nothing wrong with a manual if you know how to drive.
 
I was going to jump in on this thread regarding an M2351/M240i.

I've got the M235i and still love it after more than 7 years. No engine issues thus far, other than the turbo boost pipe which popped off. Funnily enough, the main thing to "go" was the ZF 8 speed box. Minor lag/rubber band in one of the gears. Completely drivable, but ZF replaced it for me.
How's the consumption?
 
How's the consumption?

Not great, as I do a lot of traffic driving and when I get a bit of clear road tend to floor the pedal to enjoy the acceleration and let the engine run at max revs. So 12 liters per 100km for me.
 
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