Crazy driving on public roads

[BCO]

I have drivin both of these cars and i must say both of them are epic drives...as for the Bmw havin a boring interrior i agree...the car costs R650 000 and for that money, you get the same dash and spec level as seen in all the other Bmw's. Performance wise the Rs4 is the faster car, not by far tho and its about R35 000 cheaper...i drove it down Jan Smuts and i clocked out on 255kph in no time at all, havn't been able to do a top speed run in the M3...as the owner of the car is a friend of mine and he himself hasn't done it yet(think he is a bit scared). Rs4 feels faster, sounds faster, and is an all round beast!!

Was a bit O/T in the other thread. Discuss here.

Anyone with an advanced drivers like you claim you have would never do that kind of speed on a public road, Mr. Bad. There's NO justification for what you did. None at all.

[web]

No he will keep trying to justify it, it's "cool" for him to speed but not some "crazed" chick and for goodness sake Mr. Bad stop calling me mate it kind of reflects on your personality. Please stop trying to justify your speeding because you have a advanced driving course, guess what I have one too, but I must have missed the part where they told me it now allows me to drive like an absolute Tonsil on public roads. Stop trying to justify your blatant disregard for other peoples safety and your disrespect for the law.

[Moederloos]

I believe those advanced driving courses teach one how to stop from 250k+ to 0k in one meter when a kid runs out in front of you.
Awesomeness.

Jason_bad - you are a ****wit. I hope you die in a blazing inferno when your car loses a tire and you crash into something solid and unmanned.

[Sobersoldier]

I believe those advanced driving courses teach one how to stop from 250k+ to 0k in one meter when a kid runs out in front of you.
Awesomeness.

Jason_bad - you are a ****wit. I hope you die in a blazing inferno when your car loses a tire and you crash into something solid and unmanned.

I agree 100%... That's what happens when you let kids play with big boys toys...

[Jason_Bad]

I believe those advanced driving courses teach one how to stop from 250k+ to 0k in one meter when a kid runs out in front of you.
Awesomeness.

Jason_bad - you are a ****wit. I hope you die in a blazing inferno when your car loses a tire and you crash into something solid and unmanned.


Go read the other post you ****ing idiot...WE DO IT IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS ND WE PLAN AHEAD OF TIME WHEN AND WHERE..WE CHECK ROAD CONDITIONS WEATHER AND SO ON...ITS NOT JUST ME ITS GROUP OF US!! WE HAVE EVEN APPROACHED THE METRO AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO GET INVOLVED WITH US DOING EVENTS LIKE THIS LEGALLY!! so stop preaching you old gay boyz and start living!!:mad:

[TiredOfWaiting]

Go read the other post you ****ing idiot...WE DO IT IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS ND WE PLAN AHEAD OF TIME WHEN AND WHERE..WE CHECK ROAD CONDITIONS WEATHER AND SO ON...ITS NOT JUST ME ITS GROUP OF US!! WE HAVE EVEN APPROACHED THE METRO AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO GET INVOLVED WITH US DOING EVENTS LIKE THIS LEGALLY!! so stop preaching you old gay boyz and start living!!:mad:

If you really "planned ahead", surely you would have realized that most raceways have open days, where you can race those cars to your heart's content. But NO, you have to endanger other people's lives by doing it on a public road. You're the ****ing idiot!!!

[Jason_Bad]

Its a diffirent story if i did it during the day or early evenings!! Like i said we plan these things its not just a spur of the moment thing!!! People that drive at speeds that high during the day or evening with other vehicles and people around should be locked away for the rest of their lives!!

[Sobersoldier]

OMG... You have to be kidding me... So let me get this straight, you and your friends are out and about scouting public roads and the weather conditions just to open up your dads car in the wee hours of the morning. Damn that's sad dude.

Can't wait to see the article on news24...

[TiredOfWaiting]

Its a diffirent story if i did it during the day or early evenings!! Like i said we plan these things its not just a spur of the moment thing!!! People that drive at speeds that high during the day or evening with other vehicles and people around should be locked away for the rest of their lives!!

You realize that early mornings is like rush-hour for inebriated people walking around on the street? Same goes for stray animals. You should be locked up for the rest of your life, you little kid. I guess we can't expect a child to think about the consequences of his/her actions. :sick:

[Moederloos]

Go read the other post you ****ing idiot...WE DO IT IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS ND WE PLAN AHEAD OF TIME WHEN AND WHERE..WE CHECK ROAD CONDITIONS WEATHER AND SO ON...ITS NOT JUST ME ITS GROUP OF US!! WE HAVE EVEN APPROACHED THE METRO AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO GET INVOLVED WITH US DOING EVENTS LIKE THIS LEGALLY!! so stop preaching you old gay boyz and start living!!:mad:

lol

As someone said earlier - you will be along to justify your stupid idiotic behaviour soon.

And just because it is a group of you, does not make it right. You are an idiot - and no amount of justification will change that fact.

BTW: calling someone "gay" - please explain that - is it an insult / compliment?
Very confused now.

[Jason_Bad]

If you really "planned ahead", surely you would have realized that most raceways have open days, where you can race those cars to your heart's content. But NO, you have to endanger other people's lives by doing it on a public road. You're the ****ing idiot!!!

Shows you what you know about the racing scene n SA, why do you think people hold street racing events??? cause there aren't any tracks around...Don't mention kyalami...cause thats not what we're after!!
Maybe you should go check racing in church street and go ask the guys there why they do street racing and speed runs!!

[Killove]

Go read the other post you ****ing idiot...WE DO IT IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS ND WE PLAN AHEAD OF TIME WHEN AND WHERE..WE CHECK ROAD CONDITIONS WEATHER AND SO ON...ITS NOT JUST ME ITS GROUP OF US!! WE HAVE EVEN APPROACHED THE METRO AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO GET INVOLVED WITH US DOING EVENTS LIKE THIS LEGALLY!! so stop preaching you old gay boyz and start living!!:mad:

I approached Metro and asked if they wanted to get involved in a killing spree i was planning. They said, 'no thanks.'

[Moederloos]

Shows you what you know about the racing scene n SA, why do you think people hold street racing events??? cause there aren't any tracks around...Don't mention kyalami...cause thats not what we're after!!
Maybe you should go check racing in church street and go ask the guys there why they do street racing and speed runs!!

One of each punctuation mark will be sufficient.

[Killove]

Shows you what you know about the racing scene n SA, why do you think people hold street racing events??? cause there aren't any tracks around...Don't mention kyalami...cause thats not what we're after!!
Maybe you should go check racing in church street and go ask the guys there why they do street racing and speed runs!!

There also arent any places I can go and eat children. Doesn't give me the right to go do it on the street

[Jason_Bad]

lol

As someone said earlier - you will be along to justify your stupid idiotic behaviour soon.

And just because it is a group of you, does not make it right. You are an idiot - and no amount of justification will change that fact.

BTW: calling someone "gay" - please explain that - is it an insult / compliment?
Very confused now.

Your not gonna upset me:D You guys are way to old to ever understand...You don't have a passion for cars or speed...You don't appreciate the pure acceleration of a Rs4 or a Mustang Gt500...and that's ok...your probably passionate about something else!!

[Jason_Bad]

There also arent any places I can go and eat children. Doesn't give me the right to go do it on the street

OMG your all lost!!

[Killove]

OMG your all lost!!

Well that is your justification, because there arent enough places to do it.

Oh, by the way, Rs4 = not that quick, and I doubt you've ever been in a gt500.

[Jason_Bad]

i'll post some pics for you ok!!

[Killove]

*makes note to set alight all gt500s he sees on jan smuts'

[Jason_Bad]

That car is worth more than you are mate...There aren't many in Sa...but you wouldn't know that

[Moederloos]

Your not gonna upset me:D You guys are way to old to ever understand...You don't have a passion for cars or speed...You don't appreciate the pure acceleration of a Rs4 or a Mustang Gt500...and that's ok...your probably passionate about something else!!

Sigh - You have no idea how old any of us are.
Nor does our age give you any right to endanger anyone with your reckless behaviour.

Your actions are nothing more than that of an antisocial criminal. No amount of smiley faces or emotionalizing will change that.

[Killove]

Id love to see a picture with a gp registration plate

[Sobersoldier]

Jason why did you delete your post "i own a gt500"... Are you another "Person"...

[Sobersoldier]

That car is worth more than you are mate...There aren't many in Sa...but you wouldn't know that

Great another"person" that puts cars at a higher value than human life...

[Killove]

yes Jason Bad, please give us a picture of you in a GT500..
Really. Ill be waiting

[sox63]

Shows you what you know about the racing scene n SA, why do you think people hold street racing events??? cause there aren't any tracks around...Don't mention kyalami...cause thats not what we're after!!
Maybe you should go check racing in church street and go ask the guys there why they do street racing and speed runs!!

The type of speeds you are talking about have nothing to do with street racing, or even legal drag racing events, ie 250KM/h+, as they usually held over a 1/4 mile, and NO street car can reach 250 in a 1/4 mile. A stock 911 Turbo does 1/4 mile in 12.92 sec with an exit speed of 198Km/h. And I doubt you and your friends are driving 911 Turbos, or anything faster than that.

What you are doing needs loads of road, and is not racing, just trying to reach the top speed of the car. Go to an empty airfield if you wanna do that. But do not dare say it is RACING.:mad:

[Sobersoldier]

Sheesh i can see the story now...

Johannesburg - Two men died when the BMW / gt500 they were travelling in left the road and rolled repeatedly early hours of Sunday morning, said Ekurhulenie metro police.
Inspector John Mhloapo said the BMW was travelling north on Jan Smuts when it crashed due to Jason_Bads driving.
He said the cause of the accident was moronic speeding and the vehicle left the road, crossed the dividing space into the traffic lanes in the opposite direction and rolled about seven times.
Parts of the car, including wheels, broke off and the occupants were apparently killed on impact.
Mhloapo said the vehicle was found about 600m from where it initially left the road.
He said speeding "was definitely be the cause".

[JK8]

The type of speeds you are talking about have nothing to do with street racing, or even legal drag racing events, ie 250KM/h+, as they usually held over a 1/4 mile, and NO street car can reach 250 in a 1/4 mile. A stock 911 Turbo does 1/4 mile in 12.92 sec with an exit speed of 198Km/h. And I doubt you and your friends are driving 911 Turbos, or anything faster than that.

What you are doing needs loads of road, and is not racing, just trying to reach the top speed of the car. Go to an empty airfield if you wanna do that. But do not dare say it is RACING.:mad:

1/4 mile is only 400m Which is equal to an average school athletics field.
On a 1km stretch that Porsche will touch 300.

[Moederloos]

5th alot of planning goes into it!!

Do tell.

Do you ensure all the lights are green all the way?
Do you and your buddies line the roads to ensure nothing gets in the way?
How do you man the intersections? I am sure a young lady approaching an intersection will be reluctant to stop when someone waves her down.


Again - your behaviour is criminal - no justification for it.

[sox63]

1/4 mile is only 400m Which is equal to an average school athletics field.
On a 1km stretch that Porsche will touch 300.

I'm well aware of what the Turbo can do, I was just pointing out that what Jason is talking about is hardly what I would call racing.

[Jason_Bad]

The type of speeds you are talking about have nothing to do with street racing, or even legal drag racing events, ie 250KM/h+, as they usually held over a 1/4 mile, and NO street car can reach 250 in a 1/4 mile. A stock 911 Turbo does 1/4 mile in 12.92 sec with an exit speed of 198Km/h. And I doubt you and your friends are driving 911 Turbos, or anything faster than that.

What you are doing needs loads of road, and is not racing, just trying to reach the top speed of the car. Go to an empty airfield if you wanna do that. But do not dare say it is RACING.:mad:

You'd be suprised how little road we need to do the runs...Please stop trying to school me in drag racing...been doing it for 5 years...so i know a thing or 2 about it...if you have any open tracks or airfields that you know of please do tell where they are?? we would gladly swop the road for a track!!

[BiteMe]

Sheesh i can see the story now...

Johannesburg - Two men died when the BMW / gt500 they were travelling in left the road and rolled repeatedly early hours of Sunday morning, said Ekurhulenie metro police.
Inspector John Mhloapo said the BMW was travelling north on Jan Smuts when it crashed due to Jason_Bads driving.
He said the cause of the accident was moronic speeding and the vehicle left the road, crossed the dividing space into the traffic lanes in the opposite direction and rolled about seven times.
Parts of the car, including wheels, broke off and the occupants were apparently killed on impact.
Mhloapo said the vehicle was found about 600m from where it initially left the road.
He said speeding "was definitely be the cause".

eerily familiar to this i read last week
http://cars.uk.msn.com/News/car_news_article.aspx?cp-documentID=7415370

[Moederloos]

You'd be suprised how little road we need to do the runs..

You would be surprised how little I care.
Those roads are not yours - they are for everyone.
Being an antisocial **** does not make it "OK" to race on them.

[JK8]

eerily familiar to this i read last week
http://cars.uk.msn.com/News/car_news_article.aspx?cp-documentID=7415370

Hahahaha I like this link just below the article...


Twin test: BMW M5 v Mercedes E63 AMG

:p

[Killove]

Still waiting on that picture of you in a GT 500 Jason..
child.

[sox63]

eerily familiar to this i read last week
http://cars.uk.msn.com/News/car_news_article.aspx?cp-documentID=7415370

At least that kid had the decency to go kill himself on an airfield and not on public roads.

[Jason_Bad]

Yes ok...Im wrong...you guys are all rite...we shouldn't do it and i probably won't do it again anytime soon...unless we can find a track or open runway...please let me know if you guys know of any places...i'll post da pick of my stang just now!!

[Jason_Bad]

e63 blows it out the water...lol

[Killove]

dont forget to photoshop the numberplate

[Jason_Bad]

Don't have to phtohop dude....that's so lame

[ToxicBunny]

You claiming you have a gt500 is probably lamer....

[AutoX]

Shows you what you know about the racing scene n SA, why do you think people hold street racing events??? cause there aren't any tracks around...Don't mention kyalami...cause thats not what we're after!!
Maybe you should go check racing in church street and go ask the guys there why they do street racing and speed runs!!

Shame, somebody is in the wrong forum! Maybe you should race over to Zoo***.com if you really know the SA racing scene and go brag over there. Over here we talk sense and this forum is for grown ups! I think you are a inconsiderate, child-like, klein mannetjie sindroom, GAY ( LOL ) backyard mechanic and with that you probably think you can bliksem everyone that steps on you little "racing" toes! :eek::eek::eek:

[1nsane!]

Shows you what you know about the racing scene n SA, why do you think people hold street racing events??? cause there aren't any tracks around...Don't mention kyalami...cause thats not what we're after!!
Maybe you should go check racing in church street and go ask the guys there why they do street racing and speed runs!!

Aren't any race tracks?!?!?

Seriously, Kyalami on Mondays and Saturdays, Zwartkops on Wednesdays and some Sundays with road silenced cars, Midvaal any day (just phone), Lichtenburg. All these tracks are no more than 200kms from Jo'burg!

There is a drag strip @ Brits called OBI. Knock yourself out.


Your not gonna upset me You guys are way to old to ever understand...You don't have a passion for cars or speed...You don't appreciate the pure acceleration of a Rs4 or a Mustang Gt500...and that's ok...your probably passionate about something else!!


Way too old, im 19yo.

Pure acceleration, i drive a 1600 Formula Ford, 0-100 in 4 secs, love every second of it, even if it can only do 220km/h.

[Anthro]

I hope you die in a blazing inferno when your car loses a tire and you crash into something solid and unmanned.
Seriously - even though the guy seems a twat, not a good idea to "wish something like this upon anyone", seriously follow your own advice - think TWICE before saying **** like that ?

[The_Librarian]

I am saddened by this guy's attitude.

He can go to a race track where it is controlled and there are usually emergency personnel on standby, rather than trying uncontrolled and unplanned racing in some quiet street and risking a serious accident.

Have you ever heard of Murphy's Law? One of these days Murphy will decide to stick his finger into your "careful" planning and mess things up seriously - and you'll be extremely lucky to get a long jail term and not land in the cemetery.

Oh, and if you happen to wipe out my family, I am going to sue you to hell and back again.

[Moederloos]

Seriously - even though the guy seems a twat, not a good idea to "wish something like this upon anyone", seriously follow your own advice - think TWICE before saying **** like that ?

Oh - I did.
People who callously take other people's lives into their immature hands are better off where they can do no harm to me and mine.

[The_Librarian]

Was a bit O/T in the other thread. Discuss here.

Anyone with an advanced drivers like you claim you have would never do that kind of speed on a public road, Mr. Bad. There's NO justification for what you did. None at all.

Errrr... advanced drivers won't speed - at all - they'll stick to the rules of the road, and only speed on a racing track or other facility where it is safe to do so.

I tend to drive within the speed limit as I get older :) see no need to drive fast just to be on time anymore :D

[JK8]

Errrr... advanced drivers won't speed - at all - they'll stick to the rules of the road, and only speed on a racing track or other facility where it is safe to do so.

I tend to drive within the speed limit as I get older :) see no need to drive fast just to be on time anymore :D

Errr if I had a Advanced Drivers licence I would still do 140.
Most of them do cause they think they know what they doing...
getting an advanced licence is a very popular corporate gift... anyone can get it and speed...

[1nsane!]

Errr if I had a Advanced Drivers licence I would still do 140.
Most of them do cause they think they know what they doing...
getting an advanced licence is a very popular corporate gift... anyone can get it and speed...

I have a racing license, nevermind an advanced drivers licence, and i never drive faster than 120 (GPS speed) lol, about 130km/h on the highway. Ive seen what happens to people who THINK that they can drive. . .

[JK8]

I have a racing license, nevermind an advanced drivers licence, and i never drive faster than 120 (GPS speed) lol, about 130km/h on the highway. Ive seen what happens to people who THINK that they can drive. . .

Most people with the adv licence are as fortunate as you to race competitively, the Highway is their only thrill...

[hj2k_x]

With people like this guy on the roads, no wonder there is so much carnage. Little boys with their toys. So sad.

[1nsane!]

If you want a thrill, bring your/daddy's road silenced car to Zwartkops Raceway this Sunday, pay your R200, and enjoy safe racing, if/when you crash, you will only be hurting the tire barriers. :cool:

Edit: Formore info go to Zwartkops Raceway's website (www.zwartkops.co.za). Click on the Zwartkops Super-Trax days picture on the left at the bottom.

[Jason_Bad]

OMG you guys are still carrying on about this...I said i was sorry...i wish i never mentioned it...anyway just for interest sake how many of you speed during the day? or while driving home? Be honest about it

[Jason_Bad]

If you want a thrill, bring your/daddy's road silenced car to Zwartkops Raceway this Sunday, pay your R200, and enjoy safe racing, if/when you crash, you will only be hurting the tire barriers. :cool:

Edit: Formore info go to Zwartkops Raceway's website (www.zwartkops.co.za). Click on the Zwartkops Super-Trax days picture on the left at the bottom.

Thanx mate...i appreciate it..we'll go check it out..if you want your more than welcome to come join us...we'll be bring quite a few hot cars.

[ToxicBunny]

Jason : There is speeding, and then there are doing reckless things like trying to get your car to 250km/h+.

Nobody here has said they don't speed, but going that fast is beyond reckless, its willfully endangering the lives of innocent people.

[Moederloos]

OMG you guys are still carrying on about this...I said i was sorry...i wish i never mentioned it...anyway just for interest sake how many of you speed during the day? or while driving home? Be honest about it

I never do. Got one fine in 20 years of driving - and I still feel stupid and bad for not concentrating - and it has made me a better driver for it.

[1nsane!]

Thanx mate...i appreciate it..we'll go check it out..if you want your more than welcome to come join us...we'll be bring quite a few hot cars.

i will definitly be there on Sunday, my friend will be testing a new prototype, the Neo 300, 0-100 in <3secs.

[Jason_Bad]

i will definitly be there on Sunday, my friend will be testing a new prototype, the Neo 300, 0-100 in <3secs.

Dats wicked mate....I'll def be there with my dark green gt500 and a skyline 700kw monster(not my car tho...damn).

[JK8]

That road to Zwartkops sucks!!

[1nsane!]

That road to Zwartkops sucks!!

I AGREE!!! They say it has been "upgraded", pft. It sucks when a slow truck is driving infront of you, overtaking is not the easiest of tasks there. :mad:

[Jason_Bad]

That road to Zwartkops sucks!!

Lol...all our roads suck dude.

[Jason_Bad]

stupid question...wich road would i drive from the east rand? quikest way 2 get there.

[BobbyMac]

1/4 mile is only 400m Which is equal to an average school athletics field.
On a 1km stretch that Porsche will touch 300.
Incorrect. The length of an average school athletics field is just under 120 meters. The track is measured to go around in 400 meters. But, you do know everything :rolleyes:

[JK8]

Incorrect. The length of an average school athletics field is just under 120 meters. The track is measured to go around in 400 meters. But, you do know everything :rolleyes:

Agh you know what I meant.

[BCO]

Errrr... advanced drivers won't speed - at all - they'll stick to the rules of the road, and only speed on a racing track or other facility where it is safe to do so.

I tend to drive within the speed limit as I get older :) see no need to drive fast just to be on time anymore :D

Late reply, but that's exactly what I'm saying. Advanced drivers won't speed on public roads.

[sand_man]

I'm not trying to justify Jason's driving habits but speed is not the main culprit when it comes to fatal road accidents in SA. The combination of speed and unroadworthy vehicles as well as poor road conditions and unlicensed drivers is what leads to fatal accidents. Speeding alone does not constitute reckless driving.

Before we crusify Jason for his driving habits let us consider that Germany with its autobahn has very few fatal road accidents. Evidence perhaps that speed alone is not the main culprit. In fact defective tyres is probably the greatest threat to any motorist.

Just a thought...

[Sobersoldier]

Well with all those factors you just mentioned why be moronic and add speed to the mix:confused:

[BobbyMac]

I'm not trying to justify Jason's driving habits but speed is not the main culprit when it comes to fatal road accidents in SA. The combination of speed and unroadworthy vehicles as well as poor road conditions and unlicensed drivers is what leads to fatal accidents. Speeding alone does not constitute reckless driving.

Before we crusify Jason for his driving habits let us consider that Germany with its autobahn has very few fatal road accidents. Evidence perhaps that speed alone is not the main culprit. In fact defective tyres is probably the greatest threat to any motorist.

Just a thought...Ahhh, the Autobahn argument! Was wondering when someone would try and bring that one into the debate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Autobahns


The Autobahn is designed for high speed - South African roads are not
Germans who have driver's licenses are also guaranteed to know how to drive safely
The rules on the autobahns are strictly adhered to
South Africa has amongst the highest incidents of Drunk Drivers driving fast under the influence in the world
Here's the kicker: much of the Autobahns are actually speed regulated
Vehicles unable to attain speeds in excess of 60 km/h are not allowed to use the autobahn
Overtaking on the right (undertaking) is strictly forbidden, except in traffic jams where it may be practiced with caution. Even if the car overtaken is illegally occupying the left-hand lane, it is not an acceptable excuse; in such cases the police will routinely stop and fine both drivers.


What Jason allegedly does is both illegal and extremely dangerous to other road users. His little "stang" is already at least 12 years old - probably not the safest thing to be stupid in.

Edit: So, in closing, the key difference is: Elsewhere where high speed is permitted, the people are enforced to participate responsibly. In South Africa - responsibility is for the birds.

[Dolby]

Vehicles unable to attain speeds in excess of 60 km/h are not allowed to use the autobahn

Do you get those? :confused:

[Hogrod]

Do you get those? :confused:

I was going to say the G-Wiz, a road legal. But it's top speed is 70 km/h

Power comes from eight 6-volt lead acid batteries wired in series to create 48 volts. The batteries are located under the front seats. Power flows through a 400 ampere motor controller to a DC motor rated at 4.8 kW (6.5 hp). The motor can handle up to 13.1 kW (17.5 hp) max.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-Wiz

[sand_man]

Man arrested for knocking down two pedestrians
A man has been arrested in Soshanguve outside Pretoria for allegedly knocking over two women, killing one of them, before trying to flee with the dead pedestrian's body.

It's understood the two women were walking next to a road when the unlicensed driver apparently drove his minibus taxi into them this morning.

The Mozambican national then tried to load the woman's body into his vehicle, ostensibly to literally remove the evidence from the scene.fresh off the press, 702 eye witness news.

Once again I am not defending speeding maniacs but perhaps we need to keep our eye on the ball and reserve our wrath for the real road menace...

[BCO]

"before trying to flee with the dead pedestrian's body."

lol? WTF was he thinking?

[sand_man]

"before trying to flee with the dead pedestrian's body."

lol? WTF was he thinking?Apparently he wasn't, or perhaps he was thinking he should have run over somebody lighter. Hell he was probably beside himself with panic, grief and shock, horrible situation...

[HavocXphere]

before trying to flee with the dead pedestrian's body.
Man we've got enough bloody idiots here we don't need the Mozambique idiots too.


"before trying to flee with the dead pedestrian's body."
lol? WTF was he thinking?
Dinner. Welcome to SA the place where wild animals really do run free.

[stoke]

Still - Jans Smuts is a freaking horrible twisty road with a heck of a lot of potential for something to suddenly enter the road.
Better choice of road please.

[Freshy-ZN]

Typical young whipper snapper who thinks he is an advanced driver. You gonna come short laaitie. My only hope is that no one else suffers.

[CrazyMadMan]

I still want to see the pic of his GT 500.. oh oops, cant the camera focus on the toy model?

[Fudzy]

I've been on a few advanced driving courses, even been around a race track a few times. One theme that is constantly kept in fashion is you cannot for second think that anyone on the road has as much training as you have, thus if you're doing crazy speeds on public roads you're going to come short sooner than later. It's simply idiotic to think that just because you know how to handle over-steer going through that 4 way junction that the poor Joe-Soap at the other traffic light is going to know how to handle your reactions.

[eltherza]

Go read the other post you ****ing idiot...WE DO IT IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS ND WE PLAN AHEAD OF TIME WHEN AND WHERE..WE CHECK ROAD CONDITIONS WEATHER AND SO ON...ITS NOT JUST ME ITS GROUP OF US!! WE HAVE EVEN APPROACHED THE METRO AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO GET INVOLVED WITH US DOING EVENTS LIKE THIS LEGALLY!! so stop preaching you old gay boyz and start living!!:mad:

Ultimate truth is this:
There is a limit on the speed you my travel on the road. This is Law. You are willingly going out to break the law. Early mornings/conditions/planning wont make it any less illegal.

[sand_man]

At least 10 people have died in a major early morning accident on the Mabopane highway, north of Pretoria.

It's understood a truck rammed into the back of a bus near the Hebron off-ramp.

Emergency workers are still trying to cut people out of the wreckage.

Netcare 911's Mark Stokoe says eight people have been injured, four of them including a five-year-old child, seriously.

Stokoe says only one lane is open, north of the highway.shocking story, but did speed play a part in this disaster? or stupidity? is there a difference?

[BCO]

shocking story, but did speed play a part in this disaster? or stupidity? is there a difference?

Of course other factors cause accidents, but that doesn't mean that high speed driving isn't dangerous.

[sand_man]

Of course other factors cause accidents, but that doesn't mean that high speed driving isn't dangerous.Agreed but in the South African context it's not the main culprit. I view a taxi doing 70kmh on Louis Botha Avenue a far greater threat than a cowboy in his M3 whizzing past me on the N3.

I've had 2 serious accidents in my life, the 1st was due to driver fatigue and a wet road, I rolled my car down Harrow road doing 65kmh after misjudging the curb, clipped it and rolled down the wet road into a tree. I was into my 7 month of working a 7 day week, 12 hours a day.

My 2nd was when a motorist turned in front of me, it was 7pm and raining, he was pulling off doing probably 20kmh and I was doing maybe 60kmh. The car spun and conveniently landed outside the Kempton Park magistrate.

Perhaps important to is the speed in relation to the vehicle. A 30tonne truck doing 140kmh posses far greater threat than the cowboy doing 140kmh in his M3

[Alan]

Was a bit O/T in the other thread. Discuss here.

Anyone with an advanced drivers like you claim you have would never do that kind of speed on a public road, Mr. Bad. There's NO justification for what you did. None at all.

Missed this thread :o

I agree 100%. No Justification whatsoever



Typical young whipper snapper who thinks he is an advanced driver. You gonna come short laaitie. My only hope is that no one else suffers.

I would be honored to give him a darwinian award.

[1nsane!]

Thanx mate...i appreciate it..we'll go check it out..if you want your more than welcome to come join us...we'll be bring quite a few hot cars.

You were a no show. FAILSAUCE!

BTW, were you at the Ferrari day @ Kyalami on Saturday? Saw a car that looked like yours . . .

[EvoBunny]

Ok, I don't want to choose sides but I'm not gonna deny it, I have gone 220+ on public roads... more than once. I can see the perspective that Jason is talking about as well as that from the others.

You get speeding and the you get speeding, what's the difference? The one is stupid and the other is not... How is this possible you may ask? Easy, the one is reckless and the other is not. And before wanting to jump in and say speeding is reckless driving, can you actually point me to the study proving that speeding is reckless driving? Or are you gonna state about what you believe or heard?

Go do the maths and see how many people die on public roads because of speeding, I'm sure you'll find it's something like 1% of fatal accidents are caused due to excessive speeding.

If they were driving in 20 km/h zone and you strike somebody at 21 km/h and that person dies, were you speeding? According to what law would states, yes, you were speeding but then again would you consider 21 km/h speeding? Were you driving recklessly? According to some yes, but then again, please provide me with the study proving that speeding = reckless driving.

The fact of the matter is, some can handle speed a lot easier than other, and this has been proven, that's why some people can become pilots and others not.

So before pointing fingers and calling each other names and trying to tell other to act like a grown up etc make sure you yourself is acting like a grown up and are actually capable of handling such scenarios.

PS - I have driving on various open days and circuits as well if you were wondering.

@Jason - Still waiting on that pic... cause I've only been in the Mustang GT, not the GT500, but I must say, my favorite is still driving in the Ford GT... that's a beast from another planet :D :D

[Pyro]

220 on Jan smuts is crazy. You're going to need several hundred metres to stop from that speed on a straight and level road. AFAIK Jan smuts is far from straight and level. That's straight physics, driver skill is hardly part of the equation. In that sense 220 on a highway is much safer. All the fancy gadgets in those cars can only do so much, it cannot defeat physics.

If you hit someone at 20 and he dies, it's most probably because he fell badly. What are the chances of hitting someone at 20 though? At that speed it's likely more the fault of the pedestrian.

There's not a legal difference between speeding and excessively speeding, but there is a difference nonetheless. Find a way for the lawyers to draw a better line, and I'd be the first to support it.

[Jason_Bad]

http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php?photo=2451

the photo's been up for a while now...Anyway this is the gt500 5,7L v8..My pride and joy!!

[Jason_Bad]

Ok, I don't want to choose sides but I'm not gonna deny it, I have gone 220+ on public roads... more than once. I can see the perspective that Jason is talking about as well as that from the others.

You get speeding and the you get speeding, what's the difference? The one is stupid and the other is not... How is this possible you may ask? Easy, the one is reckless and the other is not. And before wanting to jump in and say speeding is reckless driving, can you actually point me to the study proving that speeding is reckless driving? Or are you gonna state about what you believe or heard?

Go do the maths and see how many people die on public roads because of speeding, I'm sure you'll find it's something like 1% of fatal accidents are caused due to excessive speeding.

If they were driving in 20 km/h zone and you strike somebody at 21 km/h and that person dies, were you speeding? According to what law would states, yes, you were speeding but then again would you consider 21 km/h speeding? Were you driving recklessly? According to some yes, but then again, please provide me with the study proving that speeding = reckless driving.

The fact of the matter is, some can handle speed a lot easier than other, and this has been proven, that's why some people can become pilots and others not.

So before pointing fingers and calling each other names and trying to tell other to act like a grown up etc make sure you yourself is acting like a grown up and are actually capable of handling such scenarios.

PS - I have driving on various open days and circuits as well if you were wondering.

@Jason - Still waiting on that pic... cause I've only been in the Mustang GT, not the GT500, but I must say, my favorite is still driving in the Ford GT... that's a beast from another planet :D :D


Thanx mate!! the photo has been up for a while..its not best quality cause i took it wid my phone cam.

[Jason_Bad]

You were a no show. FAILSAUCE!

BTW, were you at the Ferrari day @ Kyalami on Saturday? Saw a car that looked like yours . . .

no it wasn't mine...rememba i told you some prat drove into my car at the commons...anyway really wanted to go to the raceway. Will def be there when i get my car bacck!!

[BobbyMac]

http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php?photo=2451

the photo's been up for a while now...Anyway this is the gt500 5,7L v8..My pride and joy!!

That's not a GT500.

[ToxicBunny]

It is if you lie to yourself enough :)

[Jason_Bad]

omw....just gonna laugh about this, no sense in getting all worked up about it:D:D:D ohn by the way bobby mac u wish you owned 1!!

[Killove]

not a gt500, not in the least

[BobbyMac]

@Jason_Bad: do you even know how much an original GT500 costs?

[Goobie]

that pic is from BEFORE the GT500 body kit were glued on

[Killove]

he lied, we all bust him, he didnt come on myadsl for 2 weeks and now has returned - still claiming it is a gt500.

amazing

[Jason_Bad]

Shows you what you know about the ford mustang!! go google it and educate yourself!!

[Killove]

noone is disputing it is a mustang. we are however disputing that it is a gt500.

[Jason_Bad]

@Jason_Bad: do you even know how much an original GT500 costs?

omw!! I never said it was an original Gt500,The only differencee between my car and an original gt500 is the body kit other than that there is no difference!!! I am running a 5,7L gt500 motor in it!!! and yes i know how much an original Gt500 costs if you can find 1 u'll pay between R200 000 and R400 000 depending on the condition of the body and motor!! Mine cost me R190 000 paid R30 000 more than book value because of the gt500
motor in it!! i'd like all of you to bring you cars and lets go for a drag race and see who crosses the line 1st!! Let's settle this the proper way on the black top!!

[Jason_Bad]

Just to clear something up the Gt500 motor was a 5,4 litre V8 pushing out about 300Bhp. The guy I bought the car from made it a 5,7 litre pushing out 325Bhp.

[web]

omw!! I never said it was an original Gt500,The only differencee between my car and an original gt500 is the body kit other than that there is no difference!!! I am running a 5,7L gt500 motor in it!!! and yes i know how much an original Gt500 costs if you can find 1 u'll pay between R200 000 and R400 000 depending on the condition of the body and motor!! Mine cost me R190 000 paid R30 000 more than book value because of the gt500
motor in it!! i'd like all of you to bring you cars and lets go for a drag race and see who crosses the line 1st!! Let's settle this the proper way on the black top!!

*Yawn* why do Persons try and delude us ? (Goodness thats really bad English)

[Goobie]

So if I drive a fugly Ssangyong with the words "Powered by Mercedes Benz" in the rear window I can claim I drive a Mercedes Benz?

[Killove]

You said you have a gt500.
If I put an Enzo motor in my corsa it is not an Enzo.

You do not drive a gt500.
You drive a car that has a gt500 motor in it (apparently)

[Jason_Bad]

Yeah whateva boyz...you can only dream of driving a mustang like mine!!

[BobbyMac]

Just to further clear something up: the last Ford Mustang GT500 (prior to modern ones of today) was made in 1969. You don't have a 196* Ford Mustang GT500 - and you most certainly don't have a 2007/8 GT500. You have a 199* Ford Mustang GT - big difference.

[Jason_Bad]

You said you have a gt500.
If I put an Enzo motor in my corsa it is not an Enzo.

You do not drive a gt500.
You drive a car that has a gt500 motor in it (apparently)

That's thinking like a child buddy!!

[Viper25]

You said you have a gt500.
If I put an Enzo motor in my corsa it is not an Enzo.

You do not drive a gt500.
You drive a car that has a gt500 motor in it (apparently)

Agreed


That's thinking like a child buddy!!

Huh?

[Jason_Bad]

Just to further clear something up: the last Ford Mustang GT500 (prior to modern ones of today) was made in 1969. You don't have a 196* Ford Mustang GT500 - and you most certainly don't have a 2007/8 GT500. You have a 199* Ford Mustang GT - big difference.

Like I said shows you what you know bobbymac!! in 1996 ford brought out the Mustang cobra R wich was later named the GT500. ive only had the car for 2 years now. The previous owner did the engin transplant on it. I know that my car is a 5,7 litre 325bhp Mustang i'll say Gt just to get you to shut up cause your presence is irritating me!! mine just hasn't got the body kit on it!!

[web]

Like I said shows you what you know bobbymac!! in 1996 ford brought out the Mustang cobra R wich was later named the GT500. ive only had the car for 2 years now. The previous owner did the engin transplant on it. I know that my car is a 5,7 litre 325bhp Mustang i'll say Gt just to get you to shut up cause your presence is irritating me!! mine just hasn't got the body kit on it!!

Jason for goodness sake give it up dude, you are wrong be a grown up and admit it. :eek:

[Jason_Bad]

If you say so!

[BobbyMac]

Like I said shows you what you know bobbymac!! in 1996 ford brought out the Mustang cobra R wich was later named the GT500. ive only had the car for 2 years now. The previous owner did the engin transplant on it. I know that my car is a 5,7 litre 325bhp Mustang i'll say Gt just to get you to shut up cause your presence is irritating me!! mine just hasn't got the body kit on it!!

Nonsense. No Ford Mustang post 1970 and Pre 2007 was ever referred to as a GT500.

[Jason_Bad]

Like I said shows you what you know!! Pm me your adress and i'll bring the car to your place ok, then you can inspect it and give the forum some feedback. I'll add in a lesson on mustang history for free!!

[BobbyMac]

I think you need to freshen up on your knowledge mate. Your use of the trademark GT500 is incorrect. Cheers.

[Jason_Bad]

I think you need to freshen up on your knowledge mate. Your use of the trademark GT500 is incorrect. Cheers.

That's what you say, im more than prepared to bring you the car so you can inspect it, and like I said i'll tell you the short history on the motor and where it came from! Ciao mate

[ToxicBunny]

What does having the car prove.

Mustangs like Bobbymac has stated from 1970'ish to 2007/2008 were NEVER referred to as GT500's. You are wrong, and if you believe otherwise, you need to brush up on your Mustang history.

[BCO]

Did I mention that I have a Saleen Mustang parked in my garage?

[ToxicBunny]

Only a Saleen?

BC... why exactly did you lower yourself...

The Rousch Mustangs are MUCH better.

[BCO]

saleen's all i could afford. It's a 1983 model, with the 900hp biodiesel motor. Will post pics when i get home.

[EvoBunny]

Is it a GT500? I say yes and no, the fact that there was no GT500 in that shape is why I answer no, but there are a Cobra version FR500 which follows from heritage from the GT500 which uses the 5.8L V8 engine which makes sense why he would want to call it a GT500...

[BobbyMac]

Is it a GT500? I say yes and no, the fact that there was no GT500 in that shape is why I answer no, but there are a Cobra version FR500 which follows from heritage from the GT500 which uses the 5.8L V8 engine which makes sense why he would want to call it a GT500...Well, no, because the engine in there was bored up to 5.7L - so it's not a standard GT500 motor in there either.

[LandyMan]

i'd like all of you to bring you cars and lets go for a drag race and see who crosses the line 1st!! Let's settle this the proper way on the black top!!

Sure thing ... we'll see how much pounding your "GT500" can take from a Defender :D

Settle this the proper way? If you were old enough to be married, you would probably tie your wife to the kitchen sink?

Grow up you ******* retard!

[Messugga]

Well, I like to think that I know a thing or two about mustangs, as they are my favorite cars. One of the things I know is that any mustang from the 90's is rubbish and I wouldn't be caught dead in it. 325bhp from a 5.7l? That's pathetic.

[Pitbull]

One of the things I know is that any mustang from the 90's is rubbish and I wouldn't be caught dead in it.

I have to agree 100%

Or the Barracuda /drool http://www.allpar.com/model/cuda.html

Damn it, I love old cars :cool:

[ToxicBunny]

You had to bring the cuda into it... didn't...

*sigh*

[EvoBunny]

Well, no, because the engine in there was bored up to 5.7L - so it's not a standard GT500 motor in there either.

You surely didn't read what I said did you, you just typed away like a keyboard racer... later versions might have been 5.7L but the earlier versions was 5.8L for the GT500 and it was also in this design that was made a bit more modular that Cobra used in some of their cars and because of the fact that he probably has a FR500 with a 5.8L engine he says it's a GT500 because of the heritage and similarities it share with the GT500's....

[ToxicBunny]

Still doesn't make it a GT500....

[Messugga]

No it doesn't. And R200k for a real GT500? Hah. Add another zero at the end there, and change the R for a $ and you'd be VERY lucky to pick one up.

[ToxicBunny]

Its pretty clear that Jason has less than no clue about the history of the car he's trying to pass of as a GT500....

Newer model GT500's can be had for lots less, but mint original GT500's from the 60's and 70's are worth a boat load of cash...esp since there will be less than 10000 in total. (can't find the exact production numbers atm)

[Messugga]

2048 of the original '67 GT500's were made. There was also a '68 GT500KR produced but I don't know the numbers on that one. Probably not many either.

[ToxicBunny]

The GT500KR came in two variants... fastback and convertible.

They made 1053 fastbacks and 517 convertibles.

Best guess I can make in terms of overall numbers is that the REAL deal GT500's (not this rubbish they're punting now) were only made 6935 times... So that makes them VERY VERY rare.

[Messugga]

I think it's also safe to assume that now, 40 years or so down the line, most have been destroyed. Personally, I generally like exclusivity, but I'd rather have a GT350 still. Much more fun car to drive. Not that it's not exclusive as well, it's just less exclusive. Maybe when crude oil runs out, I'll be able to pick one up for an affordable price, and just have it sit in a garage so I can look at it :D

[ToxicBunny]

I am living in the same world...

I want an eleanor look-a-like yes... but an oldschool GT350 just has that much more class and style really.

Oh, and please just please can someone park an E-type Jag in my garage, next to a nice old Ferrari 275GTB... asseblief? :D

[Messugga]

The Jag E-Types aren't that expensive surprisingly! I guess it depends on the specific model, but in my experience, American and Italian cars from that era, where Italian = Lambo, Ferrari, etc. are way more expensive. Probably due to demand.

[ToxicBunny]

Yeah... mostly cos there are lots of nutcase british ppl restoring e-types... :)

Ahhh, my mistake I wants a 275GTS... not GTB.... and its worth give or take R2.2million... *sniff*

[Messugga]

From the older Ferrari's, the 250GT Zagato's the playmate in their Playboy, for me. Again, the rest of the world seems to agree with me on this one, and the fact that they only produced a relative handful doesn't help either.

[ToxicBunny]

I never liked the Zagato designs tbh... they were always a little too jarring for me. I prefer the old Pinnanfarina designs, they just seem more subtle to me.

[Messugga]

Pininfarina's designs have always floated my boat as well but that 250GT just does something for me. Not really a big fan of Italian sportscars from the 60's-80's... The Diablo came in some nice flavours but I'd still much rather have a '67 Mustang Fastback or a Cobra or some such. Anyway, lunch awaits and then it's off to the track. Have a good day

[BobbyMac]

You surely didn't read what I said did you, you just typed away like a keyboard racer... later versions might have been 5.7L but the earlier versions was 5.8L for the GT500 and it was also in this design that was made a bit more modular that Cobra used in some of their cars and because of the fact that he probably has a FR500 with a 5.8L engine he says it's a GT500 because of the heritage and similarities it share with the GT500's....Perhaps you should heed your own advice and read what I wrote: For your benefit, I will retype the particular wording here:

because the engine in there was bored up to 5.7L

You see it now?

[DJ...]

Yeah whateva boyz...you can only dream of driving a mustang like mine!!

Not actually. I reckon yor car is fugly man! I much prefer my ride! And your speeding is ludicrous. Being a dj I find myself driving Jan Smuts in the wee hours of the morning between 3am and 7am. I seriously hope I never encounter you on ANY road in South Africa.

[Gunny]

I did an advanced high speed driving course and one of the demo's is stopping distance from different speeds. I cant remember exact distances but, at 120 or 140 Km/h your stopping distance is longer than the distance your lights light up the road (even the latest xenon beams) on high beam, and thats pedal mashed to the floor with ABS. Without ABS it was much worse.

So by the time you see a stationary obstruction at night its too late you in it. I use to think I was invinsable on the roads fast reactions, and what not but after doing the advanced driving courses I'm alot more defensive and even think further ahead. Oh and I never exceed 140. That brake distance demo is constantly in my memory.

And the fact that Mr. Bad claims to check road conditions and all that doesnt hold water. How can you be in control of conditions that are uncontrollable. all it takes is a car to pull out of a side road because it looks like you far away.

Mr. Bad and his buds have been lucky thats all. But luck runs out eventually ...