Khoza just wanted to 'shock a brother'

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South Africa's 2010 soccer chief Irvin Khoza apologised unreservedly in a statement on Wednesday for using the word "k****r" towards a black journalist

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For once I don't blame khoza. I get what he's saying even if it wasn't the smartest thing to say.

But that does that mean that the white journalists are also thinking like "k****rs" if they're questioning the LOC?
 
I reckon good on ye Irvin Khosa, you were under immense pressure, made a bugger up, the people understand what you meant,however it was still wrong the way you said it.
Lets move on.
 
Sneeky said:
I reckon good on ye Irvin Khosa, you were under immense pressure, made a bugger up, the people understand what you meant,however it was still wrong the way you said it.
Lets move on.
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Will the same go for the UFS students?
 
These are the coconuts I was talking about.
 
want to be whites but as African as me so the best way they see they can get into white society is degrading another brother .
 
zanga said:
want to be whites but as African as me so the best way they see they can get into white society is degrading another brother .
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Wat exactly is white society?, i dont get it, these so called coconuts are a result of intergration and are the future of this country, isnt that what you wanted?, a country where all were equal?, well now your so called "black brothers" are evolving and you turning against them calling them coconuts!, think before you speak, its not white society its a new age my freind, stop thinking like a caveman!
 
blunomore said:
Will the same go for the UFS students?
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I see the res has apologised unconditionally today as well which should go a long wat to easing tensions on the campus.
I think the same must apply, however the students involved actions went quite a bit further than unacceptable language.
They have themselves not apologised at all and see nothing wrong with what they have done. The HRC will have to spend some time with them. Their own doing.
 
I think what Khoza said is wrong in the current climate, but i find this whole saga rather amusing. Read the article in the lastest YOU magazine, seems Khoza is not the only one to have used the K word recently.
 
So now Khoza calls a (arabic word meaning heathen) a brother?

Strange world!
 
Ady said:
So true, i feel Khoza should be charged just as any white person would be had they said it.
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It seems as if there are different laws for different people in this country.

"We are all equal, but some are more equal than others."George Orwell.
 
If you cannot see the difference for yourself Piepalook or get over yourself for long enough to just unconditionally condemn the incident it is pointless trying to explain it to you.

perhaps Max can help.
The Great Depression
05/03/2008 08:53 - (SA)


Max du Preez

The wave of depression that has hit South Africans (or shall we be more precise and say mostly white South Africans) of late is increasing in intensity.

People who called themselves New South Africa patriots and swore even three months ago that they would die on South African soil are now announcing their plans to emigrate.

I'm not prone to depression. But thank you for the opportunity to announce on this forum that I am now also officially depressed about the state of our nation.

The fall of Thabo Mbeki and the rise of Jacob Zuma in Polokwane late last year did not depress me. And I was privately very sure that Zuma would be in jail before our next general election, when he was supposed to become our new president.

The Zuma-ANC's vendetta against the Scorpions alarmed me, but didn't drive me into a depression. It was reassuring to see how many ordinary South Africans were against the destruction of this crack anti-corruption unit. In any case, the Scorpions will be around long enough to see the start of the Zuma case.

Not even the Eskom catastrophe depressed me. I thought at least two responsible cabinet ministers and most of Eskom's overpaid leadership should have been fired on the spot, but I didn't think, like so many others, "oh, there we go, just like another failed African banana republic".

I was pleasantly surprised to see how citizens and businesses were prepared to adjust, and I thought the crisis was a blessing in disguise, because we were using energy at a time of climate change as if it were free and ever-lasting.

I also thought the Minister of Agriculture should have been fired on the spot when she declared recently that she would welcome the collapse of the value of agricultural land. How ignorant can a minister be about her portfolio? But it didn't really depress me. I don't have high expectations of politicians anyway.

The first sign...

As I said, I don't get depressed very easily, because I understand that there is a difference between the state of a nation and the state of a government. I don't rubbish my country and its people when I think the government of the day is useless. Oh, and I do think they are utterly useless most of the time nowadays.

The first sign that the Great Depression was going to hit me was when I heard of and then saw the Video of Shame of the University of the Free State. But I was resisting the depression, especially when the disgusting behaviour of these four idiots was roundly condemned even by conservative Afrikaner organisations like Solidariteit, the Voortrekkers, the FAK, the ATKV and the Sunday paper Rapport.

I'm afraid the depression eventually overwhelmed me when I started reading the letters on the internet and on the letters pages of newspapers of people who were saying the video wasn't all that bad. A week after the video became public the number of these letters had increased sharply.

Why don't you people rather condemn farm murders, some asked. Others pointed to the Forum of Black Journalists' exclusion of white reporters at a meeting the week before. What about all the white people who get hijacked and raped by blacks, other letters declared. Some were outraged that it was alleged the students peed in the food while really they squirted water from a bottle.

By yesterday some said there was in fact nothing wrong with the video because the black women were clearly not forced to take part. The university's policy of "forced integration" was what really should be criticised.

I checked LitNet's popular discussion forum, SêNet, last night just before writing this column. The majority of all letters on this topic published yesterday protested that the criticism of the video was unfair to whites and Afrikaners. In fact, the four video makers were the real victims, they seem to say.

So now I'm depressed. As if it's not bad enough that we have a terrible government, we now also seem to have a large number of people in our nation who find it acceptable that men in their early twenties humiliate and make fun of women the age of their mothers - women who are indeed mothers themselves, in the case of one of the cleaners, a mother of a young man who is a student at the very same university.

I am an Afrikaner of exactly the same genetic stock as these brainless clowns who made the video - Free State farming stock. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind what these men and their ilk would have done if they came upon black students abusing white, Afrikaans middle-aged mothers in this fashion.

That campus would have been bathed in blood by now.
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http://www.news24.com/News24/Columnists/Max_du_Preez/0,,2-1630-2148_2282397,00.html
 
Sneeky said:
If you cannot see the difference for yourself Piepalook or get over yourself for long enough to just unconditionally condemn the incident it is pointless trying to explain it to you.

perhaps Max can help.

http://www.news24.com/News24/Columnists/Max_du_Preez/0,,2-1630-2148_2282397,00.html
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Sneeky,

Very few Afrikaners like Max.
We have our reasons.

Feel free to browse my posts on this matter you are referring to.
I condemned this from the start.

I did not condemn the pee in the food.
(i did not believe that a human being would sink so low)

What i did condemn was the humiliation of those people and IMHO the human rights abuse that took place.

The degradation of those people, is what upset me.

On this same forum i was attacked by fellow forumites for being condescending.

The intention never was to be condescending.
Rather it was to make my disgust known.

I am still upset because of this incident.

I do not need Max du Preez to tell me what my moral stand on this issue should be.

I grew up in a house and a society that was racially orientated, but my father would never allow us to de-humanise or attack someone's dignity.

That was the way many Afrikaners felt then and still do today.

As far as i know most Afrikaners on this forum also condemned this incident.

I am not prepared to be drawn into an argument on this subject, and in my opinion the law must take it's course.
 
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