So its ok for Egypt to build a wall?

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Israel builds a concrete wall to stop suicide bombers and snipers from murdering its citizens which at one stage was almost a daily occurrence, and all the anti Israeli haters go apartheid, them poor Palestinian terrorists can't get through, not fair, boohoohoo.

Egypt starts to build a concrete wall to keep its Palestinian or more accurately ex - Egyptian Arab "brothers" out of Egypt, and not a peep is heard.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from...click_id=68&art_id=nw20080306185101209C560248

Normal middle East two faced politics - Crap on Israel for defending itself, but silence when the Arabs do the same.

And before anyone goes ooobah woohah, lets not forget the so called Palestinian Arabs in Gaza were Egyptian and part of Egypt until 1967 when Israel conquered the Sinai, erm, so how come the Egyptians don't want them back and are now building a concrete wall to make damn sure that they don't try and get back in?
 
Israel builds a concrete wall to stop suicide bombers and snipers from murdering its citizens which at one stage was almost a daily occurrence, and all the anti Israeli haters go apartheid, them poor Palestinian terrorists can't get through, not fair, boohoohoo.

Egypt starts to build a concrete wall to keep its Palestinian or more accurately ex - Egyptian Arab "brothers" out of Egypt, and not a peep is heard.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from...click_id=68&art_id=nw20080306185101209C560248

Normal middle East two faced politics - Crap on Israel for defending itself, but silence when the Arabs do the same.

And before anyone goes ooobah woohah, lets not forget the so called Palestinian Arabs in Gaza were Egyptian and part of Egypt until 1967 when Israel conquered the Sinai, erm, so how come the Egyptians don't want them back and are now building a concrete wall to make damn sure that they don't try and get back in?


Because the Jews are the world's wiping boys.
And because if you speak out against Muslims, you before long, have a retarded kid blowing himself up on one of your buses.
 
And because if you speak out against Muslims, you before long, have a retarded kid blowing himself up on one of your buses.

When they do this - I always find myself wishing there is nothing waiting for us after death... and at the very moment of death - somehow you discover this. Basically, a toast to your virgins... bitch.
 
Israel builds a concrete wall to stop suicide bombers and snipers from murdering its citizens which at one stage was almost a daily occurrence, and all the anti Israeli haters go apartheid, them poor Palestinian terrorists can't get through, not fair, boohoohoo.

Egypt starts to build a concrete wall to keep its Palestinian or more accurately ex - Egyptian Arab "brothers" out of Egypt, and not a peep is heard.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from...click_id=68&art_id=nw20080306185101209C560248

Normal middle East two faced politics - Crap on Israel for defending itself, but silence when the Arabs do the same.

And before anyone goes ooobah woohah, lets not forget the so called Palestinian Arabs in Gaza were Egyptian and part of Egypt until 1967 when Israel conquered the Sinai, erm, so how come the Egyptians don't want them back and are now building a concrete wall to make damn sure that they don't try and get back in?

IIRC, the reason there was an outcry was becuase the Israeli wall closed off Palestinian land as well. At the time it was called an illegal attempt to annex land.

Where as the Egyptian one is along THEIR border, and well they can do whatever they want with THEIR land.
 
IIRC, the reason there was an outcry was becuase the Israeli wall closed off Palestinian land as well. At the time it was called an illegal attempt to annex land.

Where as the Egyptian one is along THEIR border, and well they can do whatever they want with THEIR land.

What Palestinian land, there is no Palestinian state, and there never has been.

If by some unholy justice there one day will be one, a Palestininan state, the borders have yet to be defined, and if the wall is in the way, it will be moved.

According to Hamas Israel has no right to exist, so every building, structure, wall, fence, toilet, you name it, is illegal according to them.

When they do this - I always find myself wishing there is nothing waiting for us after death... and at the very moment of death - somehow you discover this. Basically, a toast to your virgins... bitch.

I guess you didn't follow this thread, as according to this dude, its not even virgins the human jigsaw puzzles get, its grapes:

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=102677
 
my all time favourite memory of the middle east was when the arab nations decided en masse to attack israel on their holiest day when even the army was in church. a week later the arab countries were crying to the un that israel was attacking them. this after wiping the floor with the egyptian air force in like a day etc. man that was funny.

iirc israel was shouted at by the world that time as well. i can tell you one thing. i would rather have an entire batch of angry muslims in my country than incur the wrath of israel. the israelies are sneaky buggers and they believe in revenge. which is an awesome thing in world politics
 
my all time favourite memory of the middle east was when the arab nations decided en masse to attack israel on their holiest day when even the army was in church. a week later the arab countries were crying to the un that israel was attacking them. this after wiping the floor with the egyptian air force in like a day etc. man that was funny.

iirc israel was shouted at by the world that time as well. i can tell you one thing. i would rather have an entire batch of angry muslims in my country than incur the wrath of israel. the israelies are sneaky buggers and they believe in revenge. which is an awesome thing in world politics

Yom Kippur war?
Friend of mine's dad was killed in that one.
 
erm as far as I know, more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis.
Surely the Palestinians should be building the wall? Afterall, Israel is the USA's b****. Palestinians can't do much against that.
 
Palestinians are Arab outcasts, thats why they want Israel to give them their own state. Then Their (Arab) problem solved.
 
I think this post is slightly misleading.. they dont beleive the State of Israel should not exist (or even deny that there ever was and will be [is] ), their view differs as to the how it will come about.
But thats like basically saying, if I'm ill then I wont go to a doctor for help, divine intervention will heal me.. though through prayer AND going to the doctor, the dr's actions become the vessel and action for the spiritual into the physical

 
If there are more gunmen and people shooting rockets on one side, how can you complain that there have been more deaths on *that* side?

PalArab self-death count

612

Palestinian Arabs violently killed by each other in 2007 - 41 women, 44 children

33

Palestinian Arabs violently killed by each other in 2008 - 5 women, 8 children

erm as far as I know, more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis.
Surely the Palestinians should be building the wall? Afterall, Israel is the USA's b****. Palestinians can't do much against that.
 
I think this post is slightly misleading.. they dont beleive the State of Israel should not exist (or even deny that there ever was and will be [is] ), their view differs as to the how it will come about.
But thats like basically saying, if I'm ill then I wont go to a doctor for help, divine intervention will heal me.. though through prayer AND going to the doctor, the dr's actions become the vessel and action for the spiritual into the physical

They don't accept the CURRENT state of Israel, so I dont see that post as being misleading, they believe the conflict that exists today is punishment for disobeying scripture laws.

Their site even has an anti-Israel flag lol
http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm

Warning: clicking that link could be shocking if you have been indoctrinated by the MSM.
 
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when there was no State of Israel, Europe spoke up and said there should be no Jew in Europe - we all know what happend then.. do you think maybe its time the "world" decided what it is that they want? Or, maybe, Jew's have decided that they'll decide their own destiny, when seen what transpired when left in "world's" hands - do you blame them?
 
What Palestinian land, there is no Palestinian state, and there never has been.

I am anti-arab, ok. But lets have look. Mose led folks outta egypt, walked across desert, stole towns left right and centre (aka jericho, nice job there, btw) and bang you have the Jewish homeland. It's all in the Torah. have a look.
 
Press Release By Neturei Karta Representing Orthodox Judaism


Orthodox Judaism is incompatible with and totally opposes the philosophy known as Zionism. It condemns Zionism both on the grounds of religious belief and on the grounds of the religious requirement to be compassionate and humanitarian to all mankind.


Neturei Karta is the group name of those Orthodox Jews who are prepared to express openly their religious opposition to Zionism and their sympathy and solidarity with the Palestinian cause in their struggle against the Zionist oppression.


As part of their expression of support for the Palestinian cause, representatives of Neturei Karta take part in protests, which draw attention to the Palestinian struggle, whenever and wherever they can.
THE WORLD, through the Agency of the International Court of Justice, has been examining the legality or otherwise of the physical barrier known as ‘the wall’ being erected by the Zionist State between them and the Palestinians. Our position is as follows:


The Jews were exiled some two thousand years ago by Divine decree from the land now known as Palestine, because they did not maintain the standards expected of them. From that time on we were forbidden and forsworn by our Torah not to attempt to come out of exile through our own efforts. To do so would be a rebellion against the wish of the A-lmighty and we were warned of the dire consequences of transgressing this prohibition.



Exile means that Jews must be loyal subjects of the countries in which they live and not attempt to attain political power over the indigenous populations of those countries. This stringent religious requirement applies equally both in any country in the world and in Palestine, where the indigenous population is the Palestinian people.


Added to the above is the religious humanitarian requirement to treat all individuals and peoples with compassion and consideration. To forcefully deprive a people of their homes and country is totally contrary to this requirement.


It follows therefore that it is the Palestinians, the indigenous population of Palestine, who have the right to rule in Palestine today. According to the Torah and Jewish faith, the Palestinian Arab claim to rule in Palestine is right and just. The Zionist illegitimate claim is illegal and what is more must inevitably be based on loss of life and deprivation of property.

Orthodox Jewry, therefore, pass no opinion on the legality or otherwise of ‘the wall’. We do however pass an opinion of ABSOLUTE ILLEGALITY on the ZIONIST STATE known as ‘Israel’. The root cause of ‘the wall’ is the illegitimate Zionist State that has caused untold suffering to both Jews and Arabs for decades. So many people ignore the root cause of the hate that has spread and engulfed the globe today.


IF THE ZIONIST STATE WERE TO BE DISMANTLED THE WHOLE QUESTION OF ‘THE WALL’ WOULD DISAPPEAR.


We want to tell the world, especially our Palestinian neighbours, that there is no hatred or animosity between Jew and Arab. We wish to live together as friends and neighbours. Let us not forget the peaceful coexistence between Jews and Arabs that existed throughout the centuries. All those memories vanished with the advent of Zionism.
The Zionist oppression of Arabs in Palestine is a tragedy for both the Palestinian and the Jewish peoples.


Opposition to Zionism and its crimes does not mean a hatred for Jews, so called ‘antisemitism’. On the contrary Zionism and its deeds are the biggest threat to Judaism and the biggest cause of ‘antisemitism’
Zionism is not Judaism - Zionists do not represent the Jews


We pray for an end to bloodshed, an end to the suffering of our Palestinian brethren and all innocent people worldwide. We are waiting for the annulment of Zionism and the peaceful dismantling of the Zionist regime, and would welcome the opportunity to dwell in peace in the holy land under a rule entirely in accordance with Palestinian aspirations.

NETUREI KARTA
 
BUT.. JK8, when the world turned and tried to kill EVERY SINGLE JEW, and they had nowhere to go, was this not an indication that the time of living within nations needed to change?
 
I am anti-arab, ok. But lets have look. Mose led folks outta egypt, walked across desert, stole towns left right and centre (aka jericho, nice job there, btw) and bang you have the Jewish homeland. It's all in the Torah. have a look.

Now that you put it that way,the bible also says that.

From a different perspective though.
 
BUT.. JK8, when the world turned and tried to kill EVERY SINGLE JEW, and they had nowhere to go, was this not an indication that the time of living within nations needed to change?

Remember my thread "The greatest Robbery of all Time???"
They had a place to go, they were supposed to share not take over(steal).
 
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