View Full Version : KDE vs Gnome... the thread you have all being waiting for.
ghoti
16-04-2008, 10:13 AM
Personally, I prefer KDE... it just looks prettier, though I do seem to trade some of my desktop stability for the bling. Lately I have had to work on some limited hardware, and I found gnome to be very very functional, if not very simple.
Whats your desktop of choice?
chiskop
16-04-2008, 10:16 AM
Excellent.
<rubs hands in glee>
Actually, I'm a KDE man although both my laptop and desktop have gnome atm. Can't remember why I did that. I'll probably stick with gnome for the time being, until KDE 4 comes out.
stepper
16-04-2008, 10:32 AM
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1962&size=big&cat=&ppuser=7664
I LOVE GNOME! Thats all!
Ou grote
16-04-2008, 10:35 AM
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1962&size=big&cat=&ppuser=7664
I LOVE GNOME! Thats all!
Looks like Tiger
ghoti
16-04-2008, 10:35 AM
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1962&size=big&cat=&ppuser=7664
I LOVE GNOME! Thats all!
Nice desktop.. which dock are you using in gnome?
Cadavre777
16-04-2008, 10:40 AM
If I dont use enlightenment or xfce then its KDE. I never really took well to gnome
koffiejunkie
16-04-2008, 10:50 AM
KDE. I used to like XFCE too, but it's become too much like gnome (which is like a bad copy of OSX IMHO)
Been using KDE for years, last month started using Gnome and really enjoying it.
koffiejunkie
16-04-2008, 10:51 AM
That said, part of the reason why I like KDE is because I absolutely loath the file manager in Gnome (nautilus, is it?). KDE4's new file manager, Dolphin, is just as bad. I hope they keep konqueror around.
eltherza
16-04-2008, 10:57 AM
I prefer gnome, simplistic. I hate having things i dont need on my desktop, visual or otherwise.
Kasyx
16-04-2008, 11:42 AM
That said, part of the reason why I like KDE is because I absolutely loath the file manager in Gnome (nautilus, is it?). KDE4's new file manager, Dolphin, is just as bad. I hope they keep konqueror around.
I totally agree. Dolphin sucks balls. Konqueror for the win.
I'm KDE all the way, I just do not gel with having a taskbar on the top of my screen.
chiskop
16-04-2008, 11:45 AM
I totally agree. Dolphin sucks balls. Konqueror for the win.
I'm KDE all the way, I just do not gel with having a taskbar on the top of my screen.
You can hide it - but it doesn't work as well as hiding the KDE taskbar.
icyrus
16-04-2008, 11:50 AM
When I used to use linux as my desktop I used XFCE and fluxbox the most. If I had to choose one of the full DEs though I always preferred KDE.
koffiejunkie
16-04-2008, 12:23 PM
I'm KDE all the way, I just do not gel with having a taskbar on the top of my screen.
Yeah, that taskbar is a visual OSX wannabe, but it doesn't have the same function. For what it does they could have worked it into the bottom one. The way it is, it's just wasting space.
HavocXphere
16-04-2008, 12:27 PM
Out of the box, KDE just looks better. Haven't experimented with major visual changes tough.
fskmh
16-04-2008, 12:32 PM
Fluxbox + GKrellM + assorted dockapps that I stole from Window Maker :D.
(I used Window Maker for quite a few years on Slack and it was on the first FreeBSD install cd too.)
Pidgin, Skype, KNetworkManager etc. dock inside Fluxbox's toolbar quite nicely.
I use mc to move directories around or for quick navigation. pcmanfm is a lightweight file manager that is very similar to XFCE's Thunar.
I still have a screenie from another thread on UPSs and nut here:
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php?photo=3196&ppuser=26351
Gothan
16-04-2008, 01:13 PM
KDE!!!!!
I am a bling man.
And yes, I hate dolphin, stupidestest file manager ever, konqueror is 100 times better, downloaded the twin panel one the other day, and it rules
chiskop
16-04-2008, 01:17 PM
KDE!!!!!
I am a bling man.
And yes, I hate dolphin, stupidestest file manager ever, konqueror is 100 times better, downloaded the twin panel one the other day, and it rules
Twin panel konqueror? Where can I find it?
I used to use dolphin, I like having the two panes, but I'm not especially sold on it.
The_Librarian
16-04-2008, 01:23 PM
KDE here.
Tried Ubuntu for a while, but went back to SuSE and KDE.
I'll use Midnight Commander in a CLI window... quick, fast, and does what I want to do :D
Gothan
16-04-2008, 01:32 PM
Twin panel konqueror? Where can I find it?
I used to use dolphin, I like having the two panes, but I'm not especially sold on it.
Man you have put me on the spot here, I'll have to go look for name, and get back to you tommorrow morning.
I love it, cause when you open it, you immedtialy log on as root, so everythign you do, you do as root.
But I'll have a name and where about for ya
koffiejunkie
16-04-2008, 01:42 PM
I love it, cause when you open it, you immedtialy log on as root, so everythign you do, you do as root.
That's generally considered a Bad Thing
Gothan
16-04-2008, 01:49 PM
That's generally considered a Bad Thing
I know I know, but come on lets all be adults here
fskmh
16-04-2008, 02:02 PM
Man you have put me on the spot here, I'll have to go look for name, and get back to you tommorrow morning.
I love it, cause when you open it, you immedtialy log on as root, so everythign you do, you do as root.
But I'll have a name and where about for ya
This is probably Krusader. It's a lot like Norton Commander or Total Commander.
It uses apps like kdiff3 and krename to make it even more extensible and powerful.
P.S. koffiejunkie is not being pedantic. Logging on as root is generally not advisable. Add yourself to the wheel group and use sudo, (without a password if you like).
Gothan
16-04-2008, 02:06 PM
I know he is not, just pulling hes leg
koffiejunkie
16-04-2008, 02:08 PM
I know he is not, just pulling hes leg
Next time I'll hack his box and then tell him to RTFM :D
KDE fer me as well. Tried gnome and found it wanting.
Gothan
16-04-2008, 02:16 PM
Next time I'll hack his box and then tell him to RTFM :D
Well actually I do not log in as root, and outside of krusader I use sudo like everyone else, just when you use krusader file mananger, krusader logs on as root to be able to manipulate files and what have you, it also asks for root password just to make sure you know you are running commands as root
stepper
16-04-2008, 02:21 PM
Nice desktop.. which dock are you using in gnome?
Avant Window Navigator (http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=Main_Page)
The_Librarian
16-04-2008, 02:40 PM
Prefer to log in as root when it's needed.
Besides, if you've logged in as root all the time, it's easy to do an rm -rf * by accident in the wrong directory... :D
ghoti
16-04-2008, 02:43 PM
Prefer to log in as root when it's needed.
Besides, if you've logged in as root all the time, it's easy to do an rm -rf * by accident in the wrong directory... :D
I did that on a university gateway/filtering server before :( about 10 years ago. I typed in rm -rf / ... and forgot to tab to the right place. I learnt a lot about squid that day.
chiskop
16-04-2008, 02:45 PM
Prefer to log in as root when it's needed.
Besides, if you've logged in as root all the time, it's easy to do an rm -rf * by accident in the wrong directory... :D
Done that before :o
I only work as root in a terminal, and then its sudo - I'd rathre type it out and think before pressing <enter>. :)
koffiejunkie
16-04-2008, 02:45 PM
Well actually I do not log in as root, and outside of krusader I use sudo like everyone else, just when you use krusader file mananger, krusader logs on as root to be able to manipulate files and what have you, it also asks for root password just to make sure you know you are running commands as root
You realise I'm joking, right? ;)
Anyway, I believe anything that requires root for modification should be done on console. But that's just me...
I forgot the root password on my one box... :o :D
noswal
16-04-2008, 03:11 PM
I use Gnome with my ubuntu setup because I'm a relative novice at it and don't know any better :p
Gothan
16-04-2008, 07:43 PM
You realise I'm joking, right? ;)
Anyway, I believe anything that requires root for modification should be done on console. But that's just me...
Hell i am new to linux, so you can basically tell me anything
milomak
17-04-2008, 12:08 PM
i gnerally am a kde man. but of late i have started using xfce, which is very much liek gnome. so i atually find that i now have a growing like for gnome.
jaarik
17-04-2008, 12:32 PM
Using Gnome for Desktop, but lots of KDE apps. Gnome has just not got Krusader which is a must have if you see how crippled GnomeCommander is in comparison. And Nautilus seems to have been made for the technically challenged folks who would like their file manager to work like Solitaire!
Busy installing KDE4 to play around a bit.
.Froot.
17-04-2008, 09:06 PM
Kde! Kde! Kde!......
flarkit
18-04-2008, 07:08 AM
Last used KDE way back on RH 7 or something. These days Gnome suits me fine, although Nautilus can be irritating. Also run a few KDE apps, just to compare functionality.
Kasyx
18-04-2008, 07:12 AM
KDE came before Gnome, thus making it the superior Window Manager.
Anyone who likes Gnome is just plain wrong.
flarkit
18-04-2008, 10:18 AM
KDE came before Gnome, thus making it the superior Window Manager.
Anyone who likes Gnome is just plain wrong.
Interesting. DOS came before Windows (and still exists), but it's not the superior OS. Lotus 1-2-3 came before Excel, but it's not the superior spreadsheet app.
Can you give concrete, objective reasons for your claim and generalisation?
koffiejunkie
18-04-2008, 10:21 AM
If you can give concrete, objective reasons for your claim and generalisation, fine.
I don't think he was being serious. But he was right about KDE coming before Gnome. Gnome was a response to KDE not being "free" as it is based on the QT tool kit which at the time didn't have GPL-friendly license. That has changed though.
I still maintain Gnome is a poor copy of OSX.
flarkit
18-04-2008, 10:35 AM
I don't think he was being serious. But he was right about KDE coming before Gnome.
If that was a tongue-in-cheek poke, then I'll withdraw my response. I just wish that people would stop all the infighting and 1-upmanship about a platform which is based on the idea of giving people choices for free (well maybe at the cost of some learning). Instead of succumbing to bickering, why not work towards improving everyone else's perceptions of Linux?
It's all about choice, so let's not try to bash each other, ok? :p
Kasyx
18-04-2008, 10:36 AM
I don't think he was being serious. But he was right about KDE coming before Gnome. Gnome was a response to KDE not being "free" as it is based on the QT tool kit which at the time didn't have GPL-friendly license. That has changed though.
I still maintain Gnome is a poor copy of OSX.
`twas indeed a joke. I don't think much in this thread is serious debating :D
I'm basically saying that KDE has had more development time than Gnome, and it makes me feel happy in my pants when I use it.
I still maintain Gnome is a poor copy of OSX.
+1
As vista is a poor copy of KDE :p
koffiejunkie
18-04-2008, 10:50 AM
As vista is a poor copy of KDE :p
Wow, then I might actually tolerate Vista more than XP :D
redarrow
20-04-2008, 06:38 PM
Hmm.. only notice this thread now.. guess I have to throw in my 2c..
I use Gnome, chief reason would be because I started with RedHat (and now use Fedora) and Gnome is the default.. I did at some stage in the past use KDE for several months but I guess I just never got hooked..
Someone mentioned that they do not like Nautilus.. I actually got to really like Nautilus for the reason that you could write simple bash scripts and add these to the context menu, I used this heavily at a stage, though not so much anymore.
For example I had a script which would "push" selected files to my cellphone via bluetooth. I no longer need this though as the context menu now has it's own "send to" for sending via email or bluetooth.
I still have a script which sends selected files across my local network with rsync... Less complicated than setting up NFS shares and faster than Samba.. ;)
koffiejunkie
21-04-2008, 11:06 AM
I actually got to really like Nautilus for the reason that you could write simple bash scripts and add these to the context menu
That is useful - I'd be interested to see if Konqueror has something like that - will check it out when I'm back at work.
Swift-wp
24-04-2008, 12:18 PM
KDE for Life!!!! I despise gnome. Everything is so much easier and more well structured in KDE. Also KDE looks so much better.That's my 2c worth...
koffiejunkie
24-04-2008, 03:44 PM
I'm really upset with what they did to the K-menu in KDE4. Really, how stupid is it to have a scroll bar inside a menu? That's one step worse than Microsoft's hiding part of a menu.
milomak
25-04-2008, 10:45 PM
I am back to KDE
PostmanPot
26-04-2008, 12:30 AM
Poll?
KDE!
Sorry for bringing up this thread again but I must say.. Always been a KDE fan until I took the plunge and use Ubuntu as my main OS. At the moment I find the current version of Gnome to be more stable, better supported than KDE.
*Yes I do have both KDE 3.5.9 and 4.0 installed on my system as well"
I think when KDE4 finally is ready for use, I think it will be amazing, until then I'll continue to use my trusty and faithful Gnome. (which is weird couple of years back I always hated Gnome)