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Peapod

19-09-2003, 09:59 AM

We could get ourselves this organised very quickly...
http://www.dslforum.org
and check out this - they have real influence!
http://www.dslforum.org/aboutdsl/whitepaper_index.html

paf

19-09-2003, 06:32 PM

Interesting. Certainly has an impressive list of members. Seems like anyone who is anybody in this arena is a member.
I think we should suggest for Telkom to become a member as well. Only South African presence I could find is Flextronics.co.za (don't know what they do) . If you look at their press office, Africa is not even mentioned. They certainly could do with a stronger African presence.

I think Telkom could learn a great deal, and they do need help, don't they? As a bonus, their execs would get to go overseas and sip champagne at their conventions [;)].

Mux

19-09-2003, 08:49 PM

I think we can all learn from this forum. They represent themselves very professionally and it would take much savvy to figure out why they would be taken serious.
Seems from the ADSL tutorial that once again we are only starting to get the technologies the other countries are beginning to move away from.

kaspaas

20-09-2003, 09:45 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mux
 Seems from the ADSL tutorial that once again we are only starting to get the technologies the other countries are beginning to move away from.

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Could you please expand on this?

Thanks

Mux

20-09-2003, 12:13 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by kaspaas
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mux
 Seems from the ADSL tutorial that once again we are only starting to get the technologies the other countries are beginning to move away from.

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Could you please expand on this?

Thanks

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Yip, maybe I expressed myself to abbreviated.
In the generic term, ADSL, sure it's here to stay for some time to come. The comment was made 'tough-in-cheek' (forgot to put the little face behind it.[;)]) It is just the time frame of the rollout and the time it took from its inception (+- 1994/95?) and the progress already made with VDSL and pure Fibre that would mature quicker than ADSL's rollout. Just look at the leaps and bounds progress made elsewhere in the world around the available bandwidth provided to the customer.
Don't get me wrong, it's great that we are getting ADSL. I think this country has a huge backlog in infrastructure due to a lot of historic political reason contributing to it. The last thing I want to get into is a political debate. We can't change the past, but we can learn from it and can shape the future. We should find synergies we we can to build.
I don't agree with everything Telkom does, maybe because of the lack of transparency and hence an opinion expressed less factual than theirs. It does look, from my point of view, that South Africans are not getting the best possible deal due to all the secrecy and limitation placed on an enabling technology - real sad.