iMAC, the good,the bad and the ugly

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Hello

Been thinking of buying a Mac (iMAC) for years now, i was just waiting for my current desktop to die, which it has (Horrrayyyyy!) which means i can now justify buying a brand-new machine.

I have trawled the net reading loads of stuff about maybe getting a Mac but i only ever seem to read totally biased reports, either for or against getting one.
This forum, so far, seems to be more objective and less hysterical than most and so i would like to ask a few Questions (i'm not a computer junkie,so please don't blow me away with jargon)

What are the negatives?
positives?
performance? (particularly when surfing the net)
imac or macbook?
would you buy another one again?
Are they easy to upgrade when new stuff comes out?

I understand that a lot depends on what you are actually using it for, lets just say i'm doing a bit of everything.

I have about 20K to spend.

cheers in advance
Daz
 
Hey Daz,

Firstly, I'm a Mac freak.. (but I was once a PC man) I didn't get this way because I liked the look of the Apple Logo or something,I got this way because Apple Mac great products.. So yes, I may be biased, but not without good reason! :)

1. Cons of getting Mac: You're probably going to have to buy new software ie Office
2. Pros of getting Mac: It really is as great as they say... from stability, to easy-of-use, performance and of course iLife!
3. A study conducted showed that windows runs fastest on a Mac (enough said?)
4. Until somebody brings out something better and easier to use than a Mac, I won't consider buying anything else.
5. Mac Pro's are easy to upgrade.. everything else is limited to RAM and Hardrive upgrade.

20k... I'd get a 24" iMac or a 15" 2.4 Macbook Pro

To end off I just want to say that since converting to Mac, my computer experience has been such pleasure... I feel like I'm living in a Sci-fi movie when I'm n my mac :)

Hope this helps..
 
I upgraded to an iMac (2.4ghz 20inch) last year around November from a PC (this was after I got a Macbook the previous February 2007). I was a PC user for about 30 years so it was a big change for me.

I have not looked back - am totally happy with the iMac and I run Windows via bootcamp for the odd app that is not supported on OS X - (Garmin mapsource and DVD ripping) You can go DVD ripping on the Mac but Clone DVD is just the best app to do this job and so easy.
Upgradability as mentioned is the RAM and HDD - but then the Apple machines just seem to last so much longer than a PC before you need to upgrade them.
Performance is great - have not had any issues with anything I throw at the machine - I have upgraded the RAM to 3gb and have not looked back.
Love the Macbook for portability and love the iMac for general use.
Will probably never go back to a PC now that I got a console for games.

Have never had any issues like on the PC (BSOD - hangups etc etc)
 
You know with today's power issues I say go portable - MacBook/MacBook Pro.
 
Dazzy,

Well to put it simply there are 2 questions that you have to ask yourself, the first being Portable or Desktop? They both have their own Pro's and Con's but it's fundamentally important to get this right first.

Do you need to be mobile?

The second important aspect you want to get out of the way is what are you going to be using the machine for? I know you mentioned a bit of everything but you will have to narrow it down a bit. I like putting machine use into 2 categories: The Administrative Machine, This is a machine that everyday end users should get. they would use it for Office, Internet, Email, Playing with their personal photos and making a home DVD. Perfect. If this is you I would suggest the Middle End Macbook 2.4Ghz on the portable side and on the desktop the Entry level iMac 20'' (Suggest putting in extra memory to have 2GB) on the desktop side. The main difference with the bigger 20'' is mainly the graphics card gets bumped up nicely.

The other category is Pro-User. This person needs a bit more grunt out of their machine, anything from Graphics Design right through to possibly making reasonably Hi-end movies. For this the Macbook pro 15.4'' or the 24'' iMac would be great.

In the end the iMac 20''s have a screen flaw that the Professional color conscious designer would hate. The 20" is a 6 bit-per-pixel TN panel. The 24" is an
8 bit-per-pixel panel from what I recall. TN panels are not as good for off-axis color consistency. Although they generally have better refresh rates their color accuracy is to be questioned... So if color is important to you then I would re-evaluate what iMac to go for. The color difference to the untrained eye is not noticeable, so if you are creating Websites or Business cards etc.. then you will be fine on the 20''. If you however are a professional photographer or a Pantone junkie then the 24'' is for you!

On the notebook side a similar color "flaw" exists and that is in the Macbook having a glossy screen. Although this makes the color look ever so vibrant on the screen when it comes down to the accuracy it has the same questions the iMac 20'' have...

Overall there is defiantly Pro's and Cons switching from PC to MAC. First of all there is a learning curve of some sort. Apple does having exactly what Windows does + more but usually has a different name or is located in a different and easier to find spot.. For example we don't have "The Control Panel" we have "System preferences" We don't have "A Start Menu" We have the "Dock" so I would suggest going to some sort of beginners training class or leaching Apple's website for the real basics. It's less than a hours worth of training needed to get you well on your way on a new Mac.

Another thing to understand is the dreadful rumor of COMPATIBILITY. There was a time in Apple's life where this was a major issue. I can now comfortably say there are NO compatibility issues with using an Apple! 90% of the time there is the MAC alternative to the Software you are using, might not be by the same name but it will do exactly what you want. Typical example as mentioned above is Microsoft Office (Word,Excel, Powerpoint etc) You can't go put your Windows version in your Mac and expect it to install, you will have to get the Mac version of Office. Exact same products and very little/no learning involved to how you use it!

Then there is the aspect of that one or two Windows App's that only run on Windows, then you can use Bootcamp (Which comes free with any Intel Mac) and a copy of Windows XP or *cough* Vista *cough* and install it on your Mac to have a dual boot.

I hope I haven't blabberd on here and that this is useful information to help you with th purchase of your new Mac. Please gimme a shout if I can be of any further assistance in helping you decide.

Good Luck! and i'm sure whatever Mac you choose it will take good care of you! :p :)
 
A laptop have its own built-in UPS which you can carry everywhere :D
Yeah - it sure does take the sting out of things. :)

I've got the 17" which makes for a more than adequate desktop replacement and there's always the option of attaching a second display (although I haven't done that nearly as often as I used to since Spaces came out).
 
Whatever you decide, if you want more RAM than the stock kit make sure you buy and install it yourself rather than through an Apple retailer. You'll save a lot.
 
Whatever you decide, if you want more RAM than the stock kit make sure you buy and install it yourself rather than through an Apple retailer. You'll save a lot.
lol - it's always been like that. Bought 2x 2gb chips for my MBP the other day at a fraction of the cost Apple would have charged (sent the used 2x 1gb to the UK for my mum to put in her MB so everyone wins).
 
You guys shouldn't shoot down the retail stores all the time. There are a few of them out there that it's in their best interest not to rip you off. For example we sell Kingston Memory which comes from Axis. It is the fraction of the price of "Apple's memory" and to top it off it is Apple Certified memory as well!

Our guys would be more then pleased to install the memory for you at no cost! The memory that comes out of the machine will be returned to you as well.

We (The Reseller) are trying to give Apple the recognition it deserves and if people keep slandering the local Apple Resellers then it's going to be very difficult to do so. It's hard enough that we all have a common enemy "Core"

Yes there are some bad ones out there but they are not all like that!

C3 - The Applecart
Digicape
Some of the iStore's

Are just to name a few of the really "Golden" Resellers out there that take care of their customers interest first!

Sorry if I sound quite defensive here but I take insult to some of the things said about resellers.
 
You guys shouldn't shoot down the retail stores all the time. There are a few of them out there that it's in their best interest not to rip you off. For example we sell Kingston Memory which comes from Axis. It is the fraction of the price of "Apple's memory" and to top it off it is Apple Certified memory as well!
I dont think anyone has shot down the retail stores in this thread. Apple prices in SA as a whole are too high (more than partly due to Core but in truth also Apple themselves - just look how poorly UK customers get treated by Apple) which is why unless I'm buying something trivial I always buy it overseas. :o

Have the other resellers thought about banding together and circumventing Core altogether or are there agreements between Apple and Core that would preclude this?
 
There is defiantly an ongoing fight between the Resellers and Core themselves in regards to how they treat pricing and service in general in SA. I must admit it has gotten allot better! These are internal disputes that we will have to resolve, it is being worked on.

Regarding the resellers banding together. I don't think this will ever happen. As much as I would love for this to happen, unfortunately there is to much "Bad Blood" out there between the resellers, mainly due to Core wanting us to all stay separated. Once again Internal politics...

The best we can do is have our own vision and move it forward, with or without Core's help.
 
I really wanted an iMAC...but I couldn't afford the capital outlay.

My current set-up which I am over the moon with is a 2.0Ghz Super Drive Mac Mini. Mine cost R6000 (bought it off a someone who made the move, but after a week didn't like the mac experience), but I think they are more expensive now. As my monitor, I bought a 24" Acer HD monitor. Cost me R4500, but these are definately cheaper now.

So...all in all, I got my lovely 24" mac setup for R11 000. The bonus is, if I want to upgrade my mac...I only have to change the mac mini...and not the monitor!

I think the iMac has a better graphics card though, but for anything less than graphic designer photo editing, I dont think it makes much of a difference.
 
Hello

Been thinking of buying a Mac (iMAC) for years now, i was just waiting for my current desktop to die, which it has (Horrrayyyyy!) which means i can now justify buying a brand-new machine.

I have trawled the net reading loads of stuff about maybe getting a Mac but i only ever seem to read totally biased reports, either for or against getting one.
This forum, so far, seems to be more objective and less hysterical than most and so i would like to ask a few Questions (i'm not a computer junkie,so please don't blow me away with jargon)

What are the negatives?
positives?
performance? (particularly when surfing the net)
imac or macbook?
would you buy another one again?
Are they easy to upgrade when new stuff comes out?

I understand that a lot depends on what you are actually using it for, lets just say i'm doing a bit of everything.

I have about 20K to spend.

cheers in advance
Daz

Had the 24" iMac for a year now, after my PC croaked.

XP has been running for the whole year, without too much hassle, used to reinstall at least every 3 months.
Games like Far Cry and Doom3 run really well on mine, Bioshock, not that great.

The Leopard side will take a couple of hours to get used to.
You'll obviously be looking for new software for Leopard, but u can just ask here and you'll get sorted.

Leopard isn't bug free, but they do get sorted eventually.
I take it u know about the no viruses, yada, yada...

Main con of buying a mac is that u will begin telling people how crap windows is, and be labelled a fanboi.:)
You may then also want an iPhone.;)
 
For various reasons I still do not like MACs, however, the 20k you have to spend will be well spent on a MAC. I would go for the iMAC, but as mentioned above it all depends on your personal needs when it comes to mobility and the like :)

A MAC mini and a separate screen will come in at almost half your budget then you can still buy a MacBook as well . That is what I would do with the cash....and i don't even like Macs :p
 
For various reasons I still do not like MACs, however, the 20k you have to spend will be well spent on a MAC. I would go for the iMAC, but as mentioned above it all depends on your personal needs when it comes to mobility and the like :)

A MAC mini and a separate screen will come in at almost half your budget then you can still buy a MacBook as well . That is what I would do with the cash....and i don't even like Macs :p

We know u want one, or u wouldn't be posting in every mac thread:rolleyes::)
U wanna be a fanboi:p
 
OSX is nice, but expect to take time getting used to it. No flood of viruses is a definite plus, but software is limited so you will be dual booting.

If you don't mind paying a lot for a machine that is limited in terms of upgradability and performance then go for it. It's more style than substance, that's for sure.

Yawn. Same old garbage. One would think you would have better things to do than troll the mac forum. Odd that.

As for software, what exactly are you expecting to run on windows that has no mac equivalent, other than games?
 
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