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wcoetzee
19-05-2008, 10:41 PM
:sick:
5fm plays kuk music these days:mad:
RnB and Gangster rap BS :mad:
what happened to the rock and pop station that was 5FM !!!!!!!!!!!:confused:
ubercal
19-05-2008, 10:49 PM
:sick:
5fm plays kuk music these days:mad:
RnB and Gangster rap BS :mad:
what happened to the rock and pop station that was 5FM !!!!!!!!!!!:confused:
Its quite simply.They have changed there target market.They are now targetting the Black youth market , and maybe some stupid white kids who think rap is cool.Like most SABC owned radio stations its targetting the non-white market.Look what happened to Radio 2000.A tradtionally english /british station.Now it totally black.
wcoetzee
19-05-2008, 11:02 PM
now, what radio station am i suppose to listen to with nice rock, pop music:mad:
ipod, mp3 player:mad:
this is BS:mad:
this whole country is going down the drain:mad::eek:
sob!
hxc87x
19-05-2008, 11:03 PM
they want more listeners so they can make more cash off advertising etc... so obviously they're going to go for the biggest market - the black youth.
what bums me out is the fact that there is more and more of that (c)rap music everywhere you go (shops etc) so there's no escaping from it for people who hate it!
wcoetzee
19-05-2008, 11:07 PM
there is one escape, get out of sa:(
wcoetzee
19-05-2008, 11:10 PM
or less aggressive, sat radio:D
wcoetzee
19-05-2008, 11:14 PM
i can see why they dont have a forum on the 5fm site
they will be flamed 24/7 by the ex loyal listeners like me:mad:
Aqua_lung
19-05-2008, 11:16 PM
It's just popular with the youth not just black, look at the US FFS...
black minority but the top sellers are urban music.
wcoetzee
19-05-2008, 11:20 PM
It's just popular with the youth not just black, look at the US FFS...
black minority but the top sellers are urban music.
disillusioned dumb white kids buying rap bs music, they watch to much boys in tha hood type movies and think they are tha hood:D idiots
Aqua_lung
19-05-2008, 11:29 PM
disillusioned dumb white kids buying rap bs music, they watch to much boys in tha hood type movies and think they are tha hood:D idiots
It's cheaper to make urban music so it does not surprise me that it's popular... the industry markets this music aggressively to the masses who lap it up and they are able to turn a quick profit.
wcoetzee
19-05-2008, 11:34 PM
It's cheaper to make urban music so it does not surprise me that it's popular... the industry markets this music aggressively to the masses who lap it up and they are able to turn a quick profit.
called urban music :sick: i call it ...... ( insert own profanity ):D
alf101
19-05-2008, 11:36 PM
now, what radio station am i suppose to listen to with nice rock, pop music:mad:
ipod, mp3 player:mad:
this is BS:mad:
this whole country is going down the drain:mad::eek:
sob!
kfm
wcoetzee
19-05-2008, 11:40 PM
kfm
they are stuck in a time warp unfortunately:D
alf101
19-05-2008, 11:40 PM
they are stuck in a time warp unfortunately:D
me 2
Hey!
Since when does my skin decide what music I am supposed to like and not like?! Since when is rap music "bs"? Since when does liking rap music or not make me a "stupid white kid"?
Some people just Happen to like certain music more than others. It's called personal taste or whatever you like to call it.
If I don't like rap music, I just
1) Don't listen to it
2) Listen to something else
So should 5FM be happening to play some rap song (etc etc) I don't like, I move over to another station till I find something that I like. Other times I just don't bother.
;)
wcoetzee
19-05-2008, 11:53 PM
Hey!
Since when does my skin decide what music I am supposed to like and not like?! Since when is rap music "bs"? Since when does liking rap music or not make me a "stupid white kid"?
Some people just Happen to like certain music more than others. It's called personal taste or whatever you like to call it.
If I don't like rap music, I just
1) Don't listen to it
2) Listen to something else
So should 5FM be happening to play some rap song (etc etc) I don't like, I move over to another station till I find something that I like. Other times I just don't bother.
;)
rap music is crap, stupid white kid is you are ( listen to the lyrics !! not your scene ) its "angry criminals" music justifying crime off all sorts especially the american rap scene
this thread is about 5fm selling itself out btw
Aqua_lung
20-05-2008, 12:00 AM
this thread is about 5fm selling itself out btw
I don't think they are selling out, it's what the youth want... not only here but in every westernized country, they are only adapting.
Blame the US for forcing their crap on us.
wcoetzee
20-05-2008, 12:03 AM
I don't think they are selling out, it's what the youth want... not only here but in every westernized country, they are only adapting.
Blame the US for forcing their crap on us.
i agree, US forcing more than bad music on the world:(
wcoetzee
20-05-2008, 12:06 AM
why did they not open a 5fm2 or something :confused: it makes sense
Aqua_lung
20-05-2008, 12:11 AM
Probably not sustainable...
wcoetzee
20-05-2008, 12:14 AM
Probably not sustainable...
how so? its adverts and promosions.
just like the current 5fm
Aqua_lung
20-05-2008, 12:19 AM
how so? its adverts and promosions.
just like the current 5fm
I don't think there will be enough listeners... but then again I dont listen to the radio anymore so don't know much bout demographics of today's listeners :p
Edit:
There are few stations I agree, soo many genres are out there that you'll never get to hear on SA radio that I'm sure could be catered for.
A station that played latin jazz and similar styled world music genres would be nice.
wcoetzee
20-05-2008, 12:31 AM
I don't think there will be enough listeners... but then again I dont listen to the radio anymore so don't know much bout demographics of today's listeners :p
the " before the change " listeners will tune in, and how will they know how many listen anyway? control groups? no, that is not so accurate as they hope to be !
promo's and adds will play and money will fly even if only white guys listen, who will know?:D
acidrain
20-05-2008, 12:52 AM
Yeah 5fm aint so good anymore.... either Kfm of when we in the mood for a prank call... call a bud... put phone by speaker and put on Lotus FM :D
Aqua_lung
20-05-2008, 12:56 AM
the " before the change " listeners will tune in, and how will they know how many listen anyway? control groups? no, that is not so accurate as they hope to be !
promo's and adds will play and money will fly even if only white guys listen, who will know?:D
I edited my post, yeah it should be possible but Sabc is an obstacle I think
wcoetzee
20-05-2008, 01:01 AM
any have a satellite radio receiver or know off anyone who have one?
like http://www.sirius.com/ over 130 stations:eek:
is it worth it?
Syndyre
20-05-2008, 02:01 AM
any have a satellite radio receiver or know off anyone who have one?
like http://www.sirius.com/ over 130 stations:eek:
is it worth it?
Does sirius have coverage here? Search for Worldspace.
acidrain
20-05-2008, 02:02 AM
Whats wrong with shoutcast? besides bandwidth of course.... all the music... none of the talking
caroper
20-05-2008, 02:55 AM
AcidRain beat me to it, but he raises the point that once again Telkom is the villain.
At least 20% of my bandwidth each month goes to listening to music. Not downloading it, not pirating it, but as an alternative to radio. South Africans have no concept of real broadband, we complain of local radio stations catering to local markets because we have no alternative, we think it is being forced on us, but broadband should provide us with choice but instead we hit the arguments of
a) I don’t have the bandwidth to waist or
b) Music on the internet is piracy, I don’t want to steal.
We can listen to thousands of legal radio stations, someone said "A station that played Latin jazz and similar styled world music genres would be nice", I have a list of the best in that genre if you like, It is what I mainly listen to. And the only way I can hear FMR is via the Internet, despite being less than 10Km from the studio, because they can’t afford the Telkom charges to get a line to Constatiaburg, or is it that Sendtech consider it a minority station and won’t allocate bandwidth (I have no inside info, just guessing).
There is so much we can do on broadband, so much that would relive tensions in this country, so much that could educate and enlighten, but instead we have a culture that says if you use more than 3Gig you are an abuser, “you must be doing something illegal, you pirate or porn addict.”
The Internet contains the worlds culture, Art, Music, its history, its science, its breaking news, and education on any topic you could imagine. But, thanks to Telkom, we bitch about local TV and radio, pay DSTV so we can get CNN and soon ETV, we lament the cost of local DVD’s because we are to scared to shop online, and if we do will the post office deliver it?
The most frightening thing of all is, do we want our kids to have Internet access at school?
The school boards think only of the negatives that our society, fooled by Telkom, wants us to think, and that is that it is only really useful for email and booking tickets on SAA. Anything beyond that is abuse and it is far to expensive to waste on kids.
Bottom line, listen to Internet streams and join the fight to show that we do have legitimate reasons to use more than 3Gigs, and whilst we are at it, lets push for cheaper local access, so that South African Artists, DJ’s and Stations can afford to stream music and be heard by the rest of the world. The South African artist is just another of the potential markets being crippled by Telkom, unfortunately the government only sees “Call Centres” as needing bandwidth, so far, and so they get concessions.
hxc87x
20-05-2008, 09:41 AM
I don't think they are selling out
if someone is saying that a band sold out, they refer to the fact that the band changed their style and sound to appeal to a bigger audience.
i think this is pretty much what 5fm is doing
All these threads about 5fm, and guys who don't like the music they play.
Its simple guys, change to another station. Stations will change, if you don't like what they have become go to another station. If you cant find another station, go buy your kind of music and listen to that in your car/mp3/cdplayer etc (if you not mainstream you gonna have to pay, this applies to almost everything in life - supply and demand dictates).
This whining about the music various stations play is pathetic, you have other choices use them.
Why not just embrace it, make a change maybe you would like it?
RnB/Hip Hop is big in the US, 5Fm is just following trends...
Aqua_lung
20-05-2008, 10:48 AM
any have a satellite radio receiver or know off anyone who have one?
like http://www.sirius.com/ over 130 stations:eek:
is it worth it?
DSTV's DMX is not bad...
A lot of genres and no annoying DJ's ;)
All these threads about 5fm, and guys who don't like the music they play.
Its simple guys, change to another station. Stations will change, if you don't like what they have become go to another station. If you cant find another station, go buy your kind of music and listen to that in your car/mp3/cdplayer etc (if you not mainstream you gonna have to pay, this applies to almost everything in life - supply and demand dictates).
This whining about the music various stations play is pathetic, you have other choices use them.
Cant agree. I cant find a single radio station that caters to my tastes, other than streaming from the internet.
Our radio stations are catering to target groups, but in other countries (and what I would love), the radio stations play according to a music genre, either rock/country/oldies etc.
Simply changing to another station just gets you a different DJ, but same crap music.
I know I stopped listening to 5FM cause I don't like their music anymore.
I now either listen to CDs or MP3s in the car or im tuned to
1) 567 Cape Talk (most likely)
2) K-FM or GoodHope FM
GoodHope now and again play some nice songs, I jump between all my sources to make sure I don't listen to crap. So far I really enjoy NOT listening to music and listening to what Cape Talk has to say.
Iwojima
20-05-2008, 11:16 AM
I installed a CD/MP3 player in my car when I bought it just over 2 years ago. In that time I've used it's radio function a grand total of twice.
There is not one station in this country that plays the music I enjoy. They all cater to the poor taste of the general population. 5fm went downhill years ago (around the time they fired Barney Simon)
I think I'll just stick to burning new compilations for my car and listening to streams from stations in other countries.
I think for you in East London you really screwd. When I was there you cant listen to 567 Cape Talk or Talk Radio 702, you dont have K-FM or GoodHope FM.
All you have really is 5FM and AlgoaFM. About three years ago 5FM was the only one I listened to.. sigh. Now eastern cape radio is pretty useless.
I remember end of 2005 I first thought this station is going backwards. it just went worse for me after the end of 2005.
timgaul
20-05-2008, 11:26 AM
In Joburg, we have the students stations: TuksFM and UJFM. These stations play rock all day long. Barney Simon is a DJ on TuksFM.
Cant agree. I cant find a single radio station that caters to my tastes, other than streaming from the internet.
Our radio stations are catering to target groups, but in other countries (and what I would love), the radio stations play according to a music genre, either rock/country/oldies etc.
Simply changing to another station just gets you a different DJ, but same crap music.
Dude, read my post again:
All these threads about 5fm, and guys who don't like the music they play.
Its simple guys, change to another station. Stations will change, if you don't like what they have become go to another station. If you cant find another station, go buy your kind of music and listen to that in your car/mp3/cdplayer etc (if you not mainstream you gonna have to pay, this applies to almost everything in life - supply and demand dictates).
This whining about the music various stations play is pathetic, you have other choices use them.
Dude, read my post again:
Still disagree dude.
You are saying if I cant find something, then use MP3's/CD's etc.
I want a radio station that caters to my tastes, and it seems I am not alone at all.
Ivan...
20-05-2008, 12:45 PM
I want a radio station that caters to my tastes, and it seems I am not alone at all.
I also want a radio station that caters to my needs, but they dont, they never will, they might play some songs I like, but not everything.
Make peace with it. All of you. DO SO NOW.
Jonny Two Shoes
20-05-2008, 12:46 PM
Funny how so many people I know or hear about who actually don't like the stuff on radio. You can't tell me there is no business in that :/
Mainstream is and will always be rubbish though. You cannot tell me that the average person has great taste. 'nuff said. :p (I could quite easily get too personal so rather refrain)
I also want a radio station that caters to my needs, but they dont, they never will, they might play some songs I like, but not everything.
Make peace with it. All of you. DO SO NOW.
I definitely dont expect to find a radio station that caters EXACTLY to my tastes, but maybe to the genre of music that I enjoy.
Maybe we just dont have enough people to make this feasible.
Ivan...
20-05-2008, 12:53 PM
Maybe we just dont have enough people to make this feasible.
Correct.
I know six people (including myself) who like glitch-opera-electronica...
:D:D:D
Picard
20-05-2008, 12:57 PM
Most radio stations play kuk music. The one that plays the least amount of crap music is KFM. That's why most business here in Cape Town only plays KFM if a large number of people must listen to it.
I stopped listening to 5FM when ... I can't remember, it was too long ago.
KillerX
20-05-2008, 12:59 PM
Yea cant believe the music playing on 5fm. Sometimes i switch it on and it sounds like music from a shabeen. Its not AMERICAN rap, which is still okay, its this real trashy 'gangsta' wannabe south african rap or kwaito or whatever u call it. Really junk! Theyve lost me as a listener. Id rather listen to 94.7
Aqua_lung
20-05-2008, 12:59 PM
I stopped listening to 5FM when ... I can't remember, it was too long ago.
For me it was end of 2000/2001
Does UCT have a station I can try?
Still disagree dude.
You are saying if I cant find something, then use MP3's/CD's etc.
I want a radio station that caters to my tastes, and it seems I am not alone at all.
So start a station that you and these other people are keen on. If there is a market for it, you guys will be okay, if not, i am positive, you will resort to the same "crap" all the other stations are playing in order to stay on the air.
Yea cant believe the music playing on 5fm. Sometimes i switch it on and it sounds like music from a shabeen. Its not AMERICAN rap, which is still okay, its this real trashy 'gangsta' wannabe south african rap or kwaito or whatever u call it. Really junk! Theyve lost me as a listener. Id rather listen to 94.7
5fm lost you and some other folk as a listeners but they probably attracted a whole lot more from that 78% of our population that is black and really like kwaito, south african rap etc and probably think rock, classical, and alternative music is "Really junk!"
sox63
20-05-2008, 01:32 PM
5fm lost you and some other folk as a listeners but they probably attracted a whole lot more from that 78% of our population that is black and really like kwaito, south african rap etc and probably think rock, classical, and alternative music is "Really junk!"
You flogging a dead horse mate. :)
All the guys that say they "used" to listen to 5fm, maybe cant understand that the station has to cater to the demands of advertisers. And advertisers are targeting a different market than what they used to. They either change, or fade away from being a major station, into a small listnership station.
Toffee
20-05-2008, 01:40 PM
I sometimes listen to Gareth Cliff in the morning as I like his sense of humour. Unfortunately the music on 5FM is c.....p. The reality is that it starts at the top. The music moguls look for a cheap music they can sell to the youth(who have the buying power) and then ram it down their throats, because they are gullible enough. We used to have alternative music stations such as Radio 2000 but that has moved to chat ( a poor version) etc. What I really hate is the "artists" who hash up old classic songs and redo them badly. It is bad enough they don't have talent but they can't even write their own lyrics and music! What these music moguls have done is to kill off the black music talent in the USA. The best guitarists, saxaphonists , percussion and piano used to mainly be black, where are the new Jimi Hendrix, Earl Klugh and George Bensons? They are all talking fast to a computer generated beat and simplistic keyboard notes.
We need one of those pirate radio stations on a boat off the coast like the UK has/had.
Aqua_lung
20-05-2008, 01:51 PM
if someone is saying that a band sold out, they refer to the fact that the band changed their style and sound to appeal to a bigger audience.
i think this is pretty much what 5fm is doing
Yeah... so?
5fm are not selling out, they have always been a POP station...
During the 90's Oasis, Nirvana, Blur, Radiohead were officially the pop bands of the day and that's what we heard often.
I have an 80's 5FM(radio 5) compilation LP from my Dad and guess what was the top songs radio 5 played then?
I'll list a few...
Wham, Spandau ballet, Tears for fears, Eurythmics, Lionel Richie..
:D
Since 2000 Urban music has officially become the new POP of the day
So if you don't like 5fm today you..
1)Are getting too old
2)Have taste
:D
So start a station that you and these other people are keen on. If there is a market for it, you guys will be okay, if not, i am positive, you will resort to the same "crap" all the other stations are playing in order to stay on the air.
I think, no, I know you are totally missing the point here. I dont care about the money making side of things of a radio station, that is/was not my point at all, I am very simply (maybe not simply enough?) just referring to the fact that we dont have radio stations that cater to a particular genre of music, like the USA, Australia etc has.
And amazingly enough, I also said that there are probably too few people interested in this to warrant the money needed to set it up in the first place.
I personally couldn't care what other people listen to at all, I am reflecting my thoughts on the topic, which was not whether the pop music today is crap or crap, but rather about the offerings or lack thereof of current radio stations.
I think, no, I know you are totally missing the point here. I dont care about the money making side of things of a radio station, that is/was not my point at all, I am very simply (maybe not simply enough?) just referring to the fact that we dont have radio stations that cater to a particular genre of music, like the USA, Australia etc has.
And amazingly enough, I also said that there are probably too few people interested in this to warrant the money needed to set it up in the first place.
I personally couldn't care what other people listen to at all, I am reflecting my thoughts on the topic, which was not whether the pop music today is crap or crap, but rather about the offerings or lack thereof of current radio stations.
You point of the lack of genre based stations is noted.
A solution to your problem was pointed out - starting a genre based station.
You correctly stated this could not be done due to the too few people interested in this.
So whats the alternative?
If you cant find another station, go buy your kind of music and listen to that in your car/mp3/cdplayer etc
Have we gone full circle?
done due to the too few people interested in this.
So whats the alternative?
Have we gone full circle?
Hows that a solution?
Hows that a solution?
Its the easiest one i can think of
is the boeremag on this forum!! everyone here hates anything realted even remotely to black!! if you dont like it do all of us a favour and leave the country we dont need chops like you here!! all you guys do is bitch and moan!
Aqua_lung
20-05-2008, 04:24 PM
is the boeremag on this forum!! everyone here hates anything realted even remotely to black!! if you dont like it do all of us a favour and leave the country we dont need chops like you here!! all you guys do is bitch and moan!
so any comments chops??
I don't care that the current music being played is Afro-centric, I hate POP, I can tolerate Rock POP by quality artists but most POP is and always will be poor quality.
IMO
Nocturnity
20-05-2008, 05:06 PM
*sigh* Looking for a response eh, dhez? In truth, you're right. All those guys do is bitch and moan but you know what? You're no better than them. You're bitching and moaning about them now, aren't you? Everyone has something or someone they don't like and there will always be something to moan about. For instance, I moan about idiots with a "holier-than-thou" attitude who refuse to open their eyes and see things from other peoples perspective. It's just the way of the world, buddy. It's what makes life interesting. :)
wcoetzee
21-05-2008, 03:46 PM
is the boeremag on this forum!! everyone here hates anything realted even remotely to black!! if you dont like it do all of us a favour and leave the country we dont need chops like you here!! all you guys do is bitch and moan!
If all the whites leave this country this place will fall in disrepear in a year or two. look at the rest of africa for a example
dude nobody is asking all the whites to leave, we just asking all the racist complaining chops to leave! their are many brilliant white people whom in stead of complaining they help resolve the problem and are really great people!