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dojob

11-11-2003, 02:11 PM

Hi Guys,

We are approaching the middle of the month. Most ADSL would appreciate it if Sentech could release details about the service, therefore we have adequate time to evaluate and make a decision whether to swap over.

I understand that they are reluctant to reveal their pricing structure however Sentech could provide us with the following information:

1.) Which areas will the service be available? (A complete list, CBD is a bit vague) They should have a list by now because roll out is in 20 days or so.

2.) What equipment is required? Will it have to be purchase from Sentech? Also how much it would cost?

3.) What are the various options and speeds offered?

4.) Is there any bandwidth restrictions? (Any Cap, Port Prioritization etc)

5.) Do users get a static IP and how many IP's are provided to a users?

6.) How long would it take to setup the service after an order is placed? Also do technical personnel have to come onsite in order to perform the installation?

Would it be possible for Sentech to provide information as to what makes their service different than ADSL and why they believe it is better?

Thankx

armitage

11-11-2003, 03:44 PM

my 2 cents i would like 2 know
what frequency r they running on? if their running on the 2.4 ghz can we use existing wifi cards and get an antenna with them.
what are their packages.[|)] how much we get for how much
contention ratio
u know al the gooey stuff that make telkom look bad.
maybe rpm can contact them? seeing as how he's big boss man here. [:D](i just suck on telephones) ((no keyboard u see))

New service by Telkom broadband speeds up to 5kbps for only R1k a month. heheh

domdom

11-11-2003, 09:36 PM

They are just as useless as Telkom. No updates on their website.
They are supposed to be the techies and they cannot even keep their website up to date. What will happen to their service if they cannot even keep their potential clients informed.

dorris

11-11-2003, 11:00 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domdom
 What will happen to their service if they cannot even keep their potential clients informed.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
from what I can gather, these dudes at Sentech haven't dealt with end users till now, and are very new to the game of looking for customers.

As an international carrier-of-carrier, Sentech is allowed to provide the wholesale traffic of data, voice and Internet services in and out of SA, but can’t sell directly to end-usershttp://m1.mny.co.za/bb.nsf/0/C2256A2A005233F942256C5C001B8035?OpenDocument
This was in an article from late 2002.
There was even talk somewhere about other ISP's reselling their package

About the pricing, of course they reluctant to release them, there are articles all over itweb, stating that Sentech are currently in battles to get wholesale prices on local fibre cables through telkom (This enablesus to get faster local access no satlink latency), and a calculated guess tells me our pricing is dependant on that outcome.
(so much for free trade, telkom keeps their fingers in everything[V])

I also saw in some other article , Ithink it was www.miro.co.za/... that their initial rollout will implement 50-100 hotspots, but then again this was initial plan in April, who knows whats changed since then.

About your decision to swop over immendiately if prices are good, I recommend you wait till late Jan next year, and see what others say about the service. coz installation costs aren't small.

Personally I believe it will be a good service, these dudes know that if they get this right, they can take SA's broadband market before the SNO gets in here.
also just speculation, but as impatient as I am for pricing and availability, I would rather be with someone that keeps me in suspense until they are certain, than some company that makes false promises without investigating their resources, and then change their service after 6 months ie Telkom ADSL

MaD

11-11-2003, 11:04 PM

I've sent off a mail to Special Assignment asking them if they can do an insert on Telkom and their monopoly, and the putrid cost of bandwidth. I'm just holding thumbs that they will do something - I've offered to help them with whatever and said I'm sure most the peepz on this site will probly also lend a hand finding out whatever is necessary to back them up [;)]

But seeing as SABC3 is a state-owned broadcaster and Telkom is also government-owned, I hope the chances aren't slim that they will do an insert. If they won't, I'm sure 3rd degree will... that Debra chick is ruthless [:)]

Also in the mail was (of course) a link to the MyADSL forums & that they should take a browse through & see how many ppl are disgruntled just with the ADSL service, also mentioned Diginet prices, overseas prices etc. Hope to hear from them asap.

armitage

12-11-2003, 09:57 AM

problem though dorris
its bout the middle of the month an the roll out date for the service is end november.
It would be expected that their pr machine would be out an trying to gather customers in droves an telling em bout the cheapish broadband that can be get from them. but all that weve heard is vagueness.

New service by Telkom broadband speeds up to 5kbps for only R1k a month. heheh

guztro

12-11-2003, 12:58 PM

Hi All

Mmmhhh...as I said in my very first post in this forum "Infosat/Sentech is yet to impress me" - I've been using their service for about a year now and man do they have problems...not monthly...almost every second day!!! If I had a client base as big as theirs, I'll employ a techie just to browse/download from the internet in an effort to make sure that international latency is what it should be. Sometimes...like today, I have to phone them to say they have a problem internationally - surely they should know this before a customer even picks up the phone?

I fully agree with Dorris...wait even till the end of February before making a decision to move over...

With all the negativity about Sentech and Telkom being discussed here, one would think that they would be intelligent enough to at least improve on their current services offered.

Cheers
Guz

tommy

12-11-2003, 02:21 PM

SENTECH WIRELESS/SATELLITE - Guys what a joke. They are worse than Telkom. I also heard that a lot of the guys that were going to resell for them have given up and have taken other avenues for the service. Taken them 6 months to roll out one product and even that is not working properly

Nickste

12-11-2003, 10:03 PM

May i ask where you got your info from Tommy?

Nick Smit
adsl@nicksmit.za.net

dorris

12-11-2003, 10:31 PM

Hey Tommy, y so aggro
I've just cruised through the forums tonight, and noticed like 30 posts in any possible forum you can get your hands on, with the same chirp each time,
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">they going to share it so much that the bandwidth will be useless. They do not allow anyone to test the service they currently got out but first sign a 3 year contract <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">SENTECH WIRELESS/SATELLITE - Guys what a joke. They are worse than Telkom<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Sentech who are both government with all the democratic bull**** playing the politics and providing very bad service and bandwidth<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
And to top it off, the following on the ICASA formal complaints thread <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I think you should start drafting one up for Sentech as well.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Don't take this the wrong way I'm not trying to start a feud, but don't you think you should give these guys the benefit of the doubt before slamming accusations, y such a grudge against them , is your Ex-wife the CEO ? if she is, I understand [:D]

Otherwise, give them a chance, they might just surprise you, as for the delay in services, I did post above, they can;t do much until its cleared by telkom , and that 3 year contract business, thats the agreement for VSTAR , whos to say the wireless follows the same principles? As for contention ratios, they have already stated that there will be different packages with guarenteed contention ratios, I think it was 50:1 or 20:1 (whereas telkom apparently runs 200:1).

Like I said earlier don't take this post the wrong way, I DO NOT want to fight with anyone, it annoys me when people are overly judgemental, and you did make a point to slander them in plenty threads.
You are not totally wrong, they have pissed me off, with all the secrecy, but I can understand the reasoning for it.
Hopefully next year, once some faithfull MYadsl subscribers have tried the service, I will hear good things and be free of telkom, And if that doesn't happen, next year you can say "I told u so!"
for now, please just put aside the bitching until you got something worthwhile to back it up.

Well now that I've had my 2c worth (If they still make them, maybe soon it will be 5c worth [:p])
Peace!!!

armitage

13-11-2003, 07:11 AM

seems like a telkom employee has been employed.
Wonder if it can be termed Digital sabotage.[:D]
baaaaaah i just hope that the prices are not insanely high

New service by Telkom broadband speeds up to 5kbps for only R1k a month. heheh

ProAsm

13-11-2003, 10:33 AM

I dont know how many posts have to be made to clear certain points up but lets try again.
PLEASE guys dont quote me as I'm sticking my neck out here.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">1.) Which areas will the service be available?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Due to VERY recent happenings (this week) initially the rollout in the JHB metro area will go ahead on 1/12 as planned.
Durban and Capetown which were to follow on or before the 8/12 have run into problems with enviromental study problems beyond our control, and could now be much later.
Other major centers would then follow on a month to month basis and so on.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">2.) What equipment is required? Will it have to be purchase from Sentech? Also how much it would cost?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
You would require a Wireless Modem which will be obtainable from us at a cost of around R3000.
This could be a once off payment or you can take a contract to pay this off included in your subscribtion.
Whether it can be purchased else where at this stage I'm not sure as it needs to meet certain radiation criteria and standards.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">3.) What are the various options and speeds offered?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
The initial launch will be a 128/128 system.
Later in 2004 options of 256/128 - 512/128 and 1024/128 options will be available.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">4.) Is there any bandwidth restrictions? (Any Cap, Port Prioritization etc)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
There are no bandwidth restrictions, no Cap and no Port Prioritization etc.
There is however a contention ratio of 35mbits:1000

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">5.) Do users get a static IP and how many IP's are provided to a users?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yes users get a Static IP - more can be negotiated.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">6.) How long would it take to setup the service after an order is placed? Also do technical personnel have to come onsite in order to perform the installation?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
There is no installation and no techies on site.
You order the modem and install it yourself - like buying a 56k modem from a shop - same principal.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">what frequency r they running on? if their running on the 2.4 ghz can we use existing wifi cards and get an antenna with them.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yes it is in 2.4 gigs region and initially you will need to use specified modems - see reasons above.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">what are their packages. how much we get for how much<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Packages are given above.
Pricing is still undesided or waiting for approval, but the initial 128/128 will be in the region of + - R500 pm with other options up to 1024/128 later in 2004 ranging up to R1200 pm.
As I say, this is not cast in stone but should not be more than 10% either way.
I'm gonna get my ass ripped off for this [:)]

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">u know al the gooey stuff that make telkom look bad.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
We are not trying to make anyone look bad - there is room for everyone and Telkom have some excellent offerrings - it just depends on your needs.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">They are just as useless as Telkom. No updates on their website. They are supposed to be the techies and they cannot even keep their website up to date. What will happen to their service if they cannot even keep their potential clients informed.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Being a hardened Internet user a Website might be the most important issue in ones life for communication.
You must remember, we are all new to this and as the Internet section is small and new in comparison to our breadline products, we have much more pressing issues on our plate regarding this rollout than a Website.
Once we are rolling then these issues will be taken care of.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I also heard that a lot of the guys that were going to resell for them have given up and have taken other avenues for the service<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
You are very misguided and misinformed here as to date only 2 or 3 ISP's are involved and NO ISP is involved in selling anything for us, in fact it is the other way around, we are a customer to the ISPs.
The ISP's involved we have bought a total bandwidth of over 150 mbits for local backbone and distribution networks.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">from what I can gather, these dudes at Sentech haven't dealt with end users till now, and are very new to the game of looking for customers.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yes, other than dealing at a corporate level, you are quite correct in your assumptions here and we are looking at you to help us but judging by the attitude of some we would rather go it alone [:D]

On a side note, I wonder if anyone knows what is involved in getting anything going on a National basis.
Not like other countries where bandwidth and frequency spectrums are privately owned, here you need a licence for everything.
Hell, you even need a licence to shoot a scene for a movie in most cases, the reason why most major movies are shot in Botswana, Zimbabwe and Mozimbique.
Getting a licence is the hardest and most time consuming operation ever.
Many a small company has obtained a licence to run a Wireless system in the center of a city and then expanded without a new licence and soon shut down.
Now try and get a licence to operate on a National basis and see who and what you come up against and the time it takes.
Then there is the enviromental issues, eish the list goes on forever [:(]
Be patient, once all these issues are solved and behind us we can step on the gas [;)]

PS... I am in no position to answer questions of any kind but will help where I am permitted to do so, already I have put my **** on a block [:)]

silversurfer

13-11-2003, 10:51 AM

Shot ProAsm, much appreciated! Bummer bout Cpt being delayed :( there are quite a few of us here, really waiting for u guys.

armitage

13-11-2003, 10:52 AM

unfair damn enviromental study
anyways thx proasm for the info.
Why is the gov doing an enviromental study on a location in cape town that already has towers sprouting there? that's like saying hmmmm. u cant put up a robot here in the city cause we havent done the enviromental impact study yet.

New service by Telkom broadband speeds up to 5kbps for only R1k a month. heheh

microfast

13-11-2003, 10:55 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ProAsm
... PLEASE guys dont quote me as I'm sticking my neck out here...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Thanks ProAsm,

One of the best posts on the topic.

Thank you.

Nickste

13-11-2003, 08:02 PM

Yeah, shot ProAsm, very informative!

Bummer about the Cape Town delay, but i suppose we can wait [:)]

Your response Tommy?

Chow, Nick

Nick Smit
adsl@nicksmit.za.net

Mux

13-11-2003, 08:42 PM

Thanks for the post ProAsm.
Dealing with red-tape is a very costly and time-consuming item on a project. Everything of the best in meeting expectations.

I can't wait for the Cape Town part! I am still holding on to my ISDN and can't wait to move on. Maybe I will get myself a "New-Year" present [:p]

firestorm

16-11-2003, 02:36 PM

ProASM thanks. What I would like to know is about the 3yr contract one has to sign up for. That is a bit heavy. If the service is g8 people will stay. It makes one a bit worried that they want ot rope you in for 3 years.

Pity about Cape Town. Seems like i will have to stay with ISDN for a bit longer. Will speak to someone at Ssentech CT tomorrow and see what they say about the 3yr contract and the delay.

Will keep ya all posted.

ProAsm

17-11-2003, 12:43 AM

firestorm, the 3 year contract is only for the VSTAR satellite system.

I stand to correction but with this system there is no contract at all unless you want to pay the modem off and not pay cash for it.

StephanB

17-11-2003, 12:09 PM

ProAsm >> Do you know if Sentech will be have a wifi internet AP at their Sender Transmission Park (STP) as they call it, in Radiokop JHB?

Thanks

firestorm

18-11-2003, 10:47 PM

proasm, you are correct. spoke to the sales guy in CT here and the contract will most prob be 1 year. Plus there are problems with the environmental impact study here so the launch in CT will be delayed for a while. Pity.

Sparf

19-11-2003, 10:45 AM

this sounds so good to me... if i decided dec 1 to do it, when would i receive my first bytes? (like how long to get the hardware) also i live in eastern pretoria, is that online in dec???

ChezAnwyne

19-11-2003, 08:53 PM

Thanks ProAsm,

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">You would require a Wireless Modem which will be obtainable from us at a cost of around R3000.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Is this a modem only, or is it also a wireless router/AP ?

In other words, if I wanted to set up wireless network at home to share my internet connection, would I need to buy an additional wifi router/switch/ap jobbie, or is the Sentech modem all I need?

Chez

Dr4k

19-11-2003, 10:10 PM

Hey hey

I was just wondering, Say we buy the 128/128 package in december and then next year the 512/128k package comes out.. will be able to just like switch to the 512/128k package by just like callin you or what ? Do we have to buy a new wireless modem thingy or what ? [:)]
And with the 128 package.. How fast will local downloads be ? eheheheh tx for any response

Ciao
Dr4k out

ProAsm

20-11-2003, 12:55 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Is this a modem only, or is it also a wireless router/AP ?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
This is a modem only, it has 1 Ethernet and 1 USB output which you can connect to a hub or whatever.

The modem as was explained to me today is as follows:

//--------
EDIT.... description removed - not going for the described one anymore.
//--------

Regarding upgrading later as the 256, 512 or 1024 systems come out, I see no reason why is not just a simple upgrade because as far as I know its the same modem allthough I will checkup on this.

Dr4k

20-11-2003, 09:39 PM

Hey Hey

I read in the newspaper today(20/11/03) that the Sentech Wireless broadband has its set release date on the 1 January 2004. This little thing was quoted from sentech, true or not ? [:(]

Ciao
Dr4k out

Spikes

20-11-2003, 10:52 PM

Hey ProASM. Since the SNO will come into operation in Feb, will Sentech use their lines so gamers can get reduced pings?

A clear conscience is a sign of bad memory!

ProAsm

21-11-2003, 11:33 AM

Dr4k, this is still a little uncertain but will be in around then, as you will be amazed at the stumbling blocks one runs into.

Spikes we will buy local bandwidth from anyone who gives a good deal, although regarding local pings for gaming, I doubt will be much better than what we will currently have.
Anyone who currently has ISDN and is connected to the IS backbone will have a rough idea of the pings expected.

Staind

21-11-2003, 05:43 PM

Hi proasm, u seem to be the one with all the information so this quesiton is basically directed at you; i would like to know how the modem works, is there any specific name of this modem where we can research into it, do we have an external box attached to the modem which i presume is PCI? does this modem transmit through walls? what would be the nearest thing to compare it to? i hope its rolled out in JHB as soon as possible, i hear that the hotspots are like 3km radius' will there be hotspots in places like sandton?

ProAsm

22-11-2003, 02:08 AM

Staind, we will make a live broadcast to the media next week sometime about all the nitty grittys etc.
I dont have the name of the Modem but I will be getting one next week so I'll check it out then.
There is no external box attached to the modem.
The modem is about the same size as a normal 56k modem and has a small antenna attached to it with a USB and Ethernet socket on it. Yes it transmits through walls as it uses 3G technology.
The "Hotspots" are 3 to 5 km radius although in many of our tests we had excellent results up to 15 km.
The official rollout in JHB is early January and yes Sandton is a "Hotspot" [:)]

kaspaas

22-11-2003, 08:33 AM

Hi,

will I be able to connect from my home in Pretoria, office in Centurion and clients in JHB with my laptop using the same settings and the same account? Provided off course that all three sites are serviced by Sentech.

Thanks.

South Africa needs World Class Broadband at World Competitive Prices.

chop

22-11-2003, 09:53 AM

Hi ProAsm,

Do you know if the Brixton tower will be a hotspot?

I live in Melville just over the tip of the hill so I can't see the tower, should I be able to get the signal?

Thanks

Flippit

22-11-2003, 10:39 AM

3-5 km ain't such a long way - are you going to erect all your own transmitters or use other people's towers and stick yours on? And when will it get to Constantia, Cape Town?

Flippit

Staind

24-11-2003, 01:45 PM

hi proasm, i phoned sentech about a week or 2 ago to find out about the whole wireless connection and it seems as you know more than the people at the call centre :) i was told by them that the service will only be implemented next year, but on here people are saying 1 dec, who should i believe ;/

aels

24-11-2003, 01:56 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Staind
 hi proasm, i phoned sentech about a week or 2 ago to find out about the whole wireless connection and it seems as you know more than the people at the call centre :) i was told by them that the service will only be implemented next year, but on here people are saying 1 dec, who should i believe ;/
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

it will be sometime next year, so chill [8D]

as with all major new roll-outs , OS releases etc ... I would let it run for a while and watch the media ... this will allow for all the "good" and "bad" things to come out before I would sign up ... Also to wait for a (unsatisfied/satisfied) members forum to get up and running as well ... but as you all know mywireless.co.za is already registered by sentech themselves [:D]

ProAsm

24-11-2003, 08:53 PM

kaspaas - you can connect using your account from anywhere in the country, mobile or stationary provided you are in the radius of a cell. Regarding Pretoria, not sure when at this stage, as I was pretty sure it was going to be with the JHB package but looks like I was wrong.

Staind, there will be a Beta launch in December and the official puplic launch for JHB will be early January, Dbn late January and CT, who knows when as we are having HUGE hassels with Green Peace [:(]

Flippit, we will not only stick to our towers, but will hire others or erect new ones where necessary.

Chop, yes Brixton (Sentech Tower) is a "hotspot".

Nickste

24-11-2003, 09:28 PM

Where do I sign up to kick some green peace ass!?

Chow, Nick

Nick Smit
adsl@nicksmit.za.net

Spikes

25-11-2003, 01:51 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ProAsm
 
Spikes we will buy local bandwidth from anyone who gives a good deal, although regarding local pings for gaming, I doubt will be much better than what we will currently have.
Anyone who currently has ISDN and is connected to the IS backbone will have a rough idea of the pings expected.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> Sorry for the misunderstanding, but I was talking about international pings.

A clear conscience is a sign of bad memory!

silversurfer

25-11-2003, 08:30 AM

International data will go via sat. so this is not a service for you, if you are looking for int gaming.

PAYBACK

25-11-2003, 10:14 AM

Got this from Sentech's Winston Smith this morning...

The broadband wireless service will be made available as a beta offering from 09th December in Gauteng to selected users. The initial rollout for the commercial service offering at the end of January 2004, will be in the central metropolis of JHB, Midrand and PTA followed later by Durban and Cape Town.
The technology is not Wi-Fi or ADSL as it provides a direct local loop Internet connection to the end user.
The service is based on the regulated and licensed 2.5 GHz radio frequency spectrum and uses equipment located on radio base stations to communicate to a wireless modem.
The modem is either a USB device or a PCMCIA card modem for notebooks.
The user can connect via this modem without utilising any Telkom land line or any other terrestrial connectivity directly to the base station from which Internet access is obtained. The coverage for these base stations are between 3Km -5Km radius.
The service will officially be launched to the public on 28th November 2003 when the prices will be made known.
The service will be available either directly from Sentech or from selected partners or directly via the Internet.
The packages to be launched will be shared Internet offerings from 128Kbps to 512Kbps.
The users' data usage will not be capped. It offers an always on service at a fixed monthly cost and the service is self installable.
The beta test is really a closed test due to the initial low availability of base stations (they are currently been rolled out).
It is a shared Internet access service with a known contention but we will not initially provide a minimum guarentee of transfer thruput as we will be specifically testing this to ensure a good quality of service.
Initially our services will be offered on a 24 month contract basis as the wireless modem is included in the price (cellular contract type model). Their is a possibility that one of our partners (will be announced at launch) will provide different contract or non-contract options with an outright purchase of the wireless modem. The modem is currently priced at approx. R4000.

Please check our website for updates (it is been revamped and will indicate the latest pricing on Friday 28th November)

Regards
Winston Smith
Portfolio Manager: Broadband Wireless
Sentech Limited

Sliver

25-11-2003, 12:29 PM

Are there any plans for Radiokop or Northcliff hill in johannesburg, also how are beta testers going to be picked and are there any spots up for grabs ?

Spikes

25-11-2003, 09:41 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by silversurfer
 International data will go via sat. so this is not a service for you, if you are looking for int gaming.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> I know, but I think I read somewhere in this forum that Sentech might use the SNO's line for international data. Or maybe it was on another website, not sure.

A clear conscience is a sign of bad memory!

MaD

26-11-2003, 11:36 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PAYBACK
 Got this from Sentech's Winston Smith this morning...

"...to ensure a good quality of service."

and

"Please check our website for updates"
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

...two things you'll never hear Telscum say! Sounds like you're on a winner here Mr Smith - can't wait for CT to be rolled out! [^]

.................................................. .....................................
Just imagine where SA would be now if it weren't for Telkom

chopsky

27-11-2003, 01:17 AM

I disagree. Those are 2 things you'll ALWAYS hear Telskum say. Just they are never true...
Pity Sentech's website hasnt been updated in months either

chopsky

27-11-2003, 01:29 PM

I stand corrected. Sentech's new website(www.sentech.co.za) is WICKID!!!
Go Sentech!

ChezAnwyne

27-11-2003, 04:27 PM

I've seen a couple of references to hassles and legal issues with Greenpeace. Can anyone tell us what these issues are about?

What am I missing?

Chez

PURE

29-11-2003, 10:41 PM

The whole reason for Environment studies, is they pumping radio waves that = radiation (self explanatory the harm) and radio static which is considered noise population, we might not be able to hear it but a lot of other things can. After you push a certain amount of power you need to do an environment study.
It the same reason why Cell C is battling to put up towers for their network.

I was told if towers like the pta and jo’ies tower had to do Environment studies for the antennas they have on those buildings they would battle to get them passed. As they have been sitting their for couple of years, long before the E studies became mandatory.

MaD

01-12-2003, 09:01 PM

Something that might be of interest & off-topic, is that when a call is placed from a cellphone, the nearest tower picks it up and then sends everything thru Telkom lines to wherever it needs to go... found that out last week, and since then I haven't been able to figure out why calling on a cell is 3x more expensive than from a landline.

Nothing to do with this forum but nice to know anyway [:)]

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Just imagine where SA would be now if it weren't for Telkom

dorris

02-12-2003, 06:48 PM

and if all cell calls are routed through telkom anyway, why is it more expensive to place calls from land line to cell than from cell to cell.
winderful innovation telkom, keep up the good work[xx(]

Pavlov

03-12-2003, 10:42 AM

Cell/Mobile Networks are not much different to IT networks in that you could have a WAN connecting offices JHB to CPT and DBN.

Internet traffic would still need to be routed via JHB, even though the connections to JHB and the INTERNET are 'owned' by telkom.

Likewise a cellular network has multiple Master switching centres wich interconnect to Telkom, other Mobile Networks and where allowed mutliple international gateways.

Although some calls between a cellphone (eg) in JHB and DBN on the same network, there is a 'leased line' portion which is part of the mobile network between the two major centres, which is leased from Telkom (because there is no-one else). It does not go through the POTS network.

Viva SNO Viva.