Details on ISP side. [Archive]

CodeMaster

06-02-2004, 12:32 PM

Does anyone know what Sentech is offering on the ISP side of the deal? How many e-mail boxes, aliases, personal web space, etc.

ckleynhans

06-02-2004, 06:11 PM

Yeah, good question! I have been using it for two days now and I don't know the name of the mailserver. I should go and have a look. It seems they are just an ISP for the sake of making the life of the MyWireless subscribers easier, not for the sake of adding value added services. Some people that works there doesn't know what a newsserver is.

mithrandi

06-02-2004, 08:32 PM

I like this, personally; if you want e-mail, webspace, news servers, etc. then by all means go to an ISP that offers that. But it really annoys me when I know that I'm paying for all that sort of junk, and have absolutely no use for it, so I kind of like the idea of being able to pay someone for an internet connection and nothing (or almost nothing) else.

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ProAsm

07-02-2004, 01:47 AM

Thats the reason I left Mweb when I had ISDN.
Their prices just kept rising all the time and when I queried it they gave me a long story about this fantastic package that it all includes.
What a load of junk - I just wanted a connection, the rest they can stick where the monkeys stick their nuts.

privet

07-02-2004, 07:02 AM

On 15 Dec 2003, I received this from Sentech:
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- yes each service will have a single mail account (POP3) no smtp relaying for now.
- the products will be as follows up and down links respectively 64Kbps/128Kbps, 128Kbps/256Kbps, 256Kbps/512Kbps
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Karnaugh

07-02-2004, 08:57 AM

ROFL

No SMTP relaying? So, erm.. how the hell do you send email? Hunt down an open relay server that is probably black listed? Or run your own?

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Claymore

07-02-2004, 05:08 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Karnaugh
 ROFL

No SMTP relaying? So, erm.. how the hell do you send email? Hunt down an open relay server that is probably black listed? Or run your own?

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"Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until you hear them speak."

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Er...Sentech's mailserver (smtp.sentechsa.co.za) *is* blacklisted by SpamCop. So if you mail anyone at an ISP that uses SpamCop, like Metroweb.co.za, for example, you mail will bounce. Nice.

MaD

07-02-2004, 05:11 PM

Mebbe someone with a 512K MyWireless offering can set up a mail server for everyone to use [:p]

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TrXtR

09-02-2004, 10:04 AM

Well, smtp.acenet.co.za doesnt require any authentication ;) It's a waiting to be used spam server.

Else, why dont you get your own domain and a friend with a virtual isp and tell him to host your mail, works for me ;)

I had an mweb account. Over the 2 years, I never used the educational stuff, never used the e-mail, and wifi hotspots. And well, I never used the dialup *doh*

So I closed it.

AcidRaZor

09-02-2004, 11:03 AM

I can organize email with your own domain names for about 70 rand per month

TrXtR

09-02-2004, 12:18 PM

I'll organize it at R60 per month ;)

AcidRaZor

09-02-2004, 02:25 PM

I can do everything including hosting for 220 a month

plus, with my "email only", you get your own domain, 5 accounts, with 25 email aliases for no extra cost!

[8D]

mithrandi

09-02-2004, 02:29 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I can organize email with your own domain names for about 70 rand per month<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I run my own domain for e-mail purposes off my ISDN connection without paying anyone anything. Big whoop.

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AcidRaZor

09-02-2004, 03:35 PM

oh well, mine's got dedicated 2 meg lines and satelite uplinks for backups... but yea, big whoop

flashvc

09-02-2004, 03:51 PM

You ALL played Monkey Island 3 ???????

Who cares who's got what?!?!?

--

dorris

09-02-2004, 06:44 PM

Whatever happened to RPM's idea of a forum dedicated to solving the Telko situation, Advertising free!!

Speaking of which, If you looking at a mail address for R60 a month, u can get a full backup dialup account from a multitude of ISP's and use pop authentication before sending, hence authenticating SMTP.
I'll give u all this for a whopping R999 per week.[8]

Never played it, any good

mithrandi

10-02-2004, 12:50 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">oh well, mine's got dedicated 2 meg lines and satelite uplinks for backups... but yea, big whoop<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
My point is, any joker can offer "email with your own domain names" for R70/month; make sure you know what you're ACTUALLY getting before you fork out ;)

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TrXtR

10-02-2004, 10:17 AM

Little thought about this, sentech gives you pop3 from what I understands. So you can receive.

So you can use your own smtp server.

And if you get someone (mydns) to do your dynamic domain hosting,
you could host your own pop3 server on your own domain(on your own machine).
I think that's suffiecient. Also check local visp's for dynamic dns.
I found a friend that I might get to do it very cheaply for me, and well, local is lekker.

something like that...

Deckert

10-02-2004, 11:50 AM

Very many ISP's block e-mail that is sent via "home" connections, such as ADSL, dial-up, etc. It helps to curb the amount of spam that gets sent. I support this move, but this means that Sentech really have to put in place an SMTP server that allows outbound sending.

On the point of servers, LoneGunman, have you had any success with their nntp server yet?

--deckert

TrXtR

10-02-2004, 12:04 PM

blocking makes sence.
If all else fails, as I said smtp.acenet.co.za

AcidRaZor

10-02-2004, 12:27 PM

or get your own domain at a respectible place for 70 a month

eish [:p]

Deckert

10-02-2004, 12:31 PM

Open SMTP relays get blocked very quickly. As such, smtp.acenet.co.za has already been blocked by SORBS, one of the major spam blockers.

http://openrbl.org/ip/196/14/84/205.htm

--deckert

TrXtR

10-02-2004, 12:38 PM

R70 A MONTH ???????? geez
Goto www.co.za
Unifrom. You wont get better anywhere, since everywhere get's it from them ;)

If I'm not wrong.
It's about R200 a year or something like that.

AcidRaZor

10-02-2004, 01:13 PM

what? for your own dedicated exchange server?

TrXtR

10-02-2004, 01:19 PM

Stop ripping me off man ;) You know what I meant.

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or get your own domain at a respectible place for 70 a month
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Noone said anything about exchange servers, but I understand that you were extended bout your previous post ;)

AcidRaZor

10-02-2004, 01:32 PM

shaaraaap, I said your own domain and mail... didn't I?

or are you going to blame noone for this again?

[:D] [:o)]

TrXtR

10-02-2004, 01:37 PM

haha
yeah yeah ;) I just got confused and forgot about the mail part that was in previous post.
btw... not the fire on the thread folder ;)
Were starting a flame war.

And look, I'm not blaming this on anyone. Noone can get blamed for it. It's an accident ;)

Deckert

10-02-2004, 03:14 PM

I have no way to test these, but maybe those with modems can check if they can relay through these servers?

196.38.110.3 mail.infosat.net
196.38.110.4 mail02.infosat.net
196.38.110.8 smtp03.smtphost.com
196.38.110.9 mail.infosat.co.za
196.38.110.35 smtp.infosat.net

They're all Infosat/Sentech-ish servers.

--deckert

privet

10-02-2004, 08:00 PM

Hi (to those how are connected),

I see in the FAQ the use support@sentechsa.com. Maybe then
also try to use mail.sentechsa.com (66.18.70.54) as an SMTP relay?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Deckert
 I have no way to test these, but maybe those with modems can check if they can relay through these servers?

196.38.110.3 mail.infosat.net
196.38.110.4 mail02.infosat.net
196.38.110.8 smtp03.smtphost.com
196.38.110.9 mail.infosat.co.za
196.38.110.35 smtp.infosat.net

They're all Infosat/Sentech-ish servers.

--deckert
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privet

11-02-2004, 01:18 AM

Also have a look at 66.18.70.53 (mail.mywireless.sentech.co.za) please? Sounds to be *exactly* the right name for what is required...

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by privet
 Hi (to those how are connected),

I see in the FAQ the use support@sentechsa.com. Maybe then
also try to use mail.sentechsa.com (66.18.70.54) as an SMTP relay?
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