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I'm using ADSL since 1 year.
I'm waiting each month the last day to download.

IT'S ENOUGH.

At 3 Gb, my traffic's automaticly transfered on a free proxy and it's FANTASTIC.

Why to pay for a free service when the people are "capped"?
I know, we're in Africa.

Thanks for read me
I'm sorry for my english.
 
Are you trying to say that when you reach 3 gig your con connects automaticaly to a proxy server?

<b><hr noshade size="1"></b><font size="2"><font color="red"><b>You can take Telkom out of the Post Office but you can't take the Post Office out of Telkom.</b></font id="red"></font id="size2">
 
you unterstand well.

but you need some programming in your system........

I'm running under linux
 
Well I will have to go into this proxy thing. I will need to get more data to be able to figure out. Im assuming one uses your local bandwidth to connect on the back of someone's leased line which has no cap? Or am I off the mark.

<b><hr noshade size="1"></b><font size="2"><font color="red"><b>You can take Telkom out of the Post Office but you can't take the Post Office out of Telkom.</b></font id="red"></font id="size2">
 
you don't "hack" a line.
you use a public server (like a web server) and it's legal.

In the majority of the case, the people use a classic connection (home to web server). When you use a a remote proxy, the way of you reqyest is home to the remote proxy (free and public), and remote proxy to web server.

it's very easy !!!!
 
There is nothing legal about using proxies, at this point companies/isp's dont take action due to embarrasment/couldnt be bothered. If more people start using them it could tip someone over the edge and then you might see a lawsuit [:(] The same concept of a shop owner leaving his shop unlocked at night by accident - someone comes in each night and feeds just themself, and therefore the shop owner doesnt notice. Imagine 20 people come feed themselvs [:p] owner not guna be happy.

to err is human - to totally **** things up requires a pc.
 
Thanx Depach for that stupid post gave me a good laugh.
 
Hi,

I'm sorry "depach". If you think that using a free proxy is illegal, you must to stop to surf on the web !!!

I'm using free proxies since 5 years and never I had problems with the companies because the free proxyes are FREE and don't need username and password.

I'm think that "depach" is jealous because he(she)'s "capped" each month !!!!!

Good night !!!

Good surf !!

I love the FREE and Linux !!!!
 
Yeah, depach, everyone is right. Public proxies are exactly that, PUBLIC. Are there any local proxy servers in SA that are public at the moment? Have not been able to find one recently.
 
&gt;I'm using free proxies since 5 years and never I had problems with the companies because the free proxyes are FREE and don't need username and password.

I assure you that when 100 ADSL users start using a proxy its a bit different to when a handfull of people have been using it.

The south african proxies are not "open" or "public" they are MISCONFIGURED (Please paste here letters authorizing you to use the servers) and therefor the following in the ect act comes into effect:

CHAPTER XIII
CYBER CRIME

Definition
85.
In this Chapter, unless the context indicates otherwise—
"access" includes the actions of a person who, after taking note of any data, becomes aware of the fact that he or she is not authorised to access that data and still continues to access that data.

...

Unauthorised access to, interception of or interference with data

86.

(1) Subject to the Interception and Monitoring Prohibition Act, 1992 (Act No. 127 of 1992), a person who intentionally accesses or intercepts any data without authority or permission to do so, is guilty of an offence.


Penalties
89.

(1) A person convicted of an offence referred to in sections 37(3),40(2), 58(2), 80(5),82(2) or 86(1), (2) or (3) is liable to a fine or imprisonment for a period not exceeding 12 months.

to err is human - to totally **** things up requires a pc.
 
As IS's proxies are listed 2ce, i might point you to a specific part in their AUP (http://www.is.co.za/datafile/std_content.asp?ISConstantsID=82)

SYSTEM AND NETWORK SECURITY
All references to systems and networks under this section includes the Internet (and all those systems and/or networks to which user is granted access through IS) and includes but is not limited to the infrastructure of IS itself.

The user may not circumvent user authentication or security of any host, network, or account (referred to as "cracking" or "hacking"), nor interfere with service to any user, host, or network (referred to as "denial of service attacks").

<b>Violations of system or network security by the user are prohibited, and may result in civil or criminal liability.</b> IS will investigate incidents involving such violations and will involve and will co-operate with law enforcement officials if a criminal violation is suspected. Examples of system or network security violations include, without limitation, the following:

<b>Unauthorised access to or use of data, systems or networks</b>, including any attempt to probe, scan or test the vulnerability of any system or network or to breach security or authentication measures without the express authorisation of IS.

to err is human - to totally **** things up requires a pc.
 
Depach, you appear to be missing the point here.

<hr noshade size="1">mithrandi, i Ainil en-Balandor, a faer Ambar
 
I got the point after the first post, I was correcting a statement made by someone, then got called stupid ... i find it funny that calling someone stupid, is following the original point - but we live in a world with lots of double standards so im used to it [;)]

It seems the appretiation on this forum for anything other than slandering telkom or people who dont share the same views is next to nothing.

Btw by using these local proxies, you are not hurting telkom, you are hurting companies that are in the same boat that you are in. The first chance people get in this country to abuse something - they take it.

If you so believe that using proxies is legal, then logon to telkomadsl's guest account, and set www.telkom.co.za port 80 as your proxy. [:D] if it doesnt work when u try they have proberly noticed it .

to err is human - to totally **** things up requires a pc.
 
Mithrandi is right, you are missing the point. It's not that your view is different, it's that your view is WRONG. Public proxies are intended to be used by everyone, hence PUBLIC. They are not poorly secured company proxies that people are exploiting. If I decided to set up a proxy server and invited everyone to use it would it be considered illegal?
 
Please stop telling me that they are setup like this... show me a letter from SAIX, IS and connectIT that they are the case pls.

If you would like ill call the different proxie owners and get their opinion?

to err is human - to totally **** things up requires a pc.
 
I am a bit confused at your outrage depatch.
Do you imply that SAIX, IS and connectIT are incompetent in setting up proxies, incapable of detecting their misconfigurations and that these proxies people are using are theirs?


You don't know what you don't know.
Mux
 
SAIX, IS and connectIT have NOTHING to do with this. If I run a proxy on bandwidth I have purchased, I am fully entitled to allow anyone I wish to use it. I am fully aware that everyone will be accessing it and therefore no law is broken. This would be considered a public proxy.

It is illegal if you obtain a means of using a company's proxy without their knowledge, however this would not be considered a public proxy. I think this is where you are confusing the issue. Go ahead and call one of the listed ISPs if you need reassurance about this.
 
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