Mbeki did not deserve his fate

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Africa lost another leader, an important and special one, who will be better judged by history than by his own ANC party.

After nearly 10 years as president of South Africa and five as Nelson Mandela's deputy president, Thabo Mbeki was ignominiously forced to step down, just six months before his term in office was due to end.

It didn't have to be this way, and it is a great shame that it was. It was a harsh, ungracious and unnecessary way to deal with an essentially decent and proud man, who had done a lot for his country and for southern Africa.
 
You're right, he should have been impeached:

http://www.mg.co.za/article/2008-09-30-arms-how-mbeki-meddled

Arms: How Mbeki meddled
STEFAANS BRĂĽMMER AND SAM SOLE: NEWS ANALYSIS - Sep 30 2008 00:00


In his application to the Constitutional Court last week, former president Thabo Mbeki denied under oath that he had meddled in the prosecution of ANC president Jacob Zuma.

But there is a wider question -- whether Mbeki had a history of imposing his will on nominally independent state institutions.

Commenting on Mbeki's televised resignation address, his biographer Mark Gevisser concluded that even if Judge Chris Nicholson's inferences are successfully challenged, "the odour of two incidents in particular will remain part of Mbeki's legacy: Bulelani Ngcuka's 'prima facie' statement and Mbeki's part in it; and the evidence of Vusi Pikoli before the Ginwala commission. The arms deal looms, too …"

The arms deal scandal presented Mbeki's administration with its biggest reputational challenge. Did he interfere? Here is the evidence:

Dumping Heath: a case study in distortion
January 19 2001: Mbeki goes on television explaining his decision to exclude then-judge Willem Heath and his Special Investigating Unit (SIU) from the multi-agency probe of the arms deal.

Heath's inclusion was supported by Parliament's ANC-dominated public accounts committee, Scopa, and opposition parties. Mbeki and the ANC leadership felt, however, that Heath was politically insolent and feared he could use his powers to apply to cancel the arms contracts.

In his broadcast Mbeki cited a November 2000 Constitutional Court judgement which found that Heath, as a judge heading the SIU, violated the constitutional principle of a separation of powers.

He claimed the court had "directed that we act 'without undue delay' to replace Judge Heath with somebody else who is not a judge". Mbeki failed to mention that the court had given a year's indulgence -- and that Heath had offered to resign as a judge.

Mbeki also cited an opinion given to then-justice minister Penuell Maduna by advocates Frank Kahn, then Western Cape director of public prosecutions, and Jan Lubbe, a consultant to the SIU.

He emphasised their saying that "at this stage there is no prima facie evidence in law" of criminality in the arms deal. Glaringly, he omitted to say that Kahn and Lubbe had, in fact, recommended an investigation as "warranted" and had found "sufficient grounds" to involve the SIU (or, to comply with the Constitutional Court judgement, a reconstituted SIU).

That letter (or how to emasculate Parliament)
January 19 2001: On the same day that Mbeki excludes Heath's SIU from the arms deal probe, then-deputy president Jacob Zuma signs a lengthy letter to Gavin Woods, then chair of Scopa.

Copied to foreign governments and the principal arms contracting companies, the missive badgered Woods over Scopa's findings about irregularities in the arms deal and its demand for a multi-agency investigation which would include the SIU.

The letter-- which turned out be written by Mbeki -- and a series of interventions by the ANC leadership soon brought the ANC majority in Scopa, and thus Scopa itself, to heel.

The pressure started shortly after Scopa's November 2 2000 resolution recommending the probe, when Scopa's ANC members were summoned by the ANC's governance committee. According to Andrew Feinstein, then Scopa's ranking ANC member, Zuma and former chief whip Tony Yengeni were present, as was Mbeki's close confidant Essop Pahad. In a "ferocious diatribe" Pahad demanded that Scopa withdraw the resolution. Pahad has denied the *allegation.

After the ANC sacked Feinstein and reconstituted its Scopa contingent, Scopa dropped its insistence on a full investigation of the arms deal.

Despite the controversy around "Zuma's" letter to Woods -- and the fact that Shaik trial Judge Hilary Squires accepted it as evidence that Zuma tried to derail the arms deal probe -- Mbeki did not publicly own up to writing it.

Critics have long seen Mbeki and the ANC's crackdown on Scopa as a first instance of the emasculation of Parliament and a violation of the separation of powers.

Editing the JIT report, shielding the executive
October 2001: Then-auditor general Shauket Fakie meets Mbeki and mini*sters Alec Erwin, Trevor Manuel and Mosiuoa Lekota, presenting them with a draft of the joint investigation team's (JIT) report on the arms deal.

With Heath's SIU excluded from the multi-agency probe into the arms deal, the JIT consisted of Fakie's office, the National Prosecuting Authority and the Public Protector. They were due to release their report to Parliament at the end of October 2001. But after the meeting with Mbeki and his ministers the draft (in fact drafts, as up to that point each agency had prepared a separate report) was furiously rewritten. A final, unified report was presented to Parliament only in mid-November.

Fakie repeatedly defended his actions, saying the law gave him no choice but to seek comment from the executive before publication. He also claimed no "material" changes had resulted.

When arms deal bidder-turned-whistle-blower Richard Young gained access to the draft reports through access to information litigation, a different picture emerged. It seemed that evidence tending to contradict the executive's version on the probity the main arms deal contracts had been omitted or toned down.

A set of handwritten notes resulting from Fakie's meeting with Mbeki and his ministers strongly indicated that Fakie succumbed to the politicians' demands. These included an instruction for the substitution of a finding by Fakie's team that former defence minister Joe Modise had interfered to ensure the selection of BAE System's Hawk jet trainers with the Public Protector's finding that the Hawk selection was (justifiably) made for strategic reasons.

A separate note, but in the same handwriting as the notes recording changes to be made as a result of Fakie's meeting with Mbeki and the ministers, stated the need to insert in the overall conclusion that "the joint investigation team found no evidence of impropriety, fraud or corruption by Cabinet, government or individual ministers".

Indeed, the final report concluded that "no evidence was found of any improper or unlawful conduct by government" and that the irregularities exposed in the report "cannot be ascribed to the president or Cabinet ministers".

Mbeki and his ministers got what they wanted.
Bouncing Hefer: if at first you don't succeed …

November 11 2003: Mbeki amends the Hefer Commission's terms of reference, changing its mandate from determining whether then-prosecutions boss Bulelani Ngcuka had been an apartheid spy, to whether Mo Shaik and Mac Maharaj's claims to that effect were true.

The change may appear negligible, but the effect was significant: it turned the commission, initially tasked with establishing the objective truth about Ngcuka, into a forum in which two men closely associated with Zuma had to prove their own allegations -- or face humiliation, which they did.

Mbeki appointed Judge Joos Hefer in September 2003 after City Press claimed Ngcuka might have spied for the apartheid police. Shaik and Maharaj backed the allegations, based on a 1989 probe by their ANC intelligence unit.

Hefer took his mandate seriously enough to demand intelligence files in state hands. But he noted in his report: "Although the obvious and most reliable source of [Ngcuka's alleged registration as a source] was the records in possession of the state intelligence and security services, I was consistently ... refused access to the records."

Mbeki then stepped in. Rather than order the release of the records, he changed Hefer's mandate. On the same day, Mbeki's director general, Frank Chikane, wrote to Hefer saying "the President has unfettered access to all information in the possession of the state intelligence and security structures. These structures have made no allegations that bear on the matters being considered by the commission."

Chikane's assurance was ambiguous. Hefer noted in his report that he "remained firmly convinced that these agencies were in possession of information that was still relevant", but he backed down, bound as he was by Mbeki's new mandate putting the onus on Shaik and Maharaj to prove their claims. Under rigorous cross-examination and without recourse to intelligence files, the duo failed dismally. Hefer concluded that Ngcuka "probably never acted as an agent".

Slagging the SFO -- a case of selective enthusiasm
January 15 2007: The SABC interviews Mbeki following a Mail & Guardian exposé that Britain's Serious Fraud Office (SFO) wanted South African help in investigating R1-billion in "commissions" paid by BAE Systems during the arms deal. Mbeki sticks to the official line that there was no corruption affecting government and the main contracts, and adds: "That conclusion will stand whatever investigation the British are doing."

At the time, and subsequently, a wealth of new information dislodged by foreign investigations cast doubt on the exonerations issued by South Africa's joint investigation team. Investigators in Britain and Germany both requested legal assistance from South Africa to pursue leads.

Government has denied claims that it obstructed these requests. It is a fact, however, that the SFO has received very little concrete assistance since it first requested it in 2006, and that German investigators had received none when they closed their probe earlier this year.

Mbeki and key members of the executive, it seemed, found it hard to muster the same enthusiasm for the fight against corruption that they showed when Zuma was in the dock.
 
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Mr crime-is-a-perception and aids-doesn't-really-exist and there-is-no-crisis-in-zim Mbeki didn't deserve this?

Pull the other one.
 
They should revoke his citizenship and send him to Zimbabwe, where he can live out the rest of his days holding Mugabe's hand while taking long walks looking for food. Mbeki deserved every bit of this and so much more. He was turning us into a banana republic. Good riddance!

  • Beetroot klepto Msimang - gone!
  • Dronkie McBride - gone!
  • Mbazima (formerly Sam) Shilowa - gone! His replacement, Paul Mashatile, says, "crime is our number one priority". Thanks, reality exists somewhere.

Goodbye Mbeki, goodbye polyanna!
 
That 'holiday' put SA on the map. Made trade relations and got SA uninterrupted growth for 10 years
That happended despite Macbeki! If you think he had anything to do with growth and trade you might as well thank him for gravity.

One of the ugliest facts about Macbeki is that he's a racist.

Do you remember the Mandela years, when black and white were all smiling and greeting each other everywhere, in the streets even ... we all made an effort to be nice, accepting, open, etc... Mandela went out of his way to make emblematic conciliatory gestures ... he made a point, for example, of visibly and volubly supporting 'white' SA sports and sportsmen, esp cricket and rugby, and people responded eagerly to make the effort at reconciliation, black advancement, &c.

And then Macbeki came in and everything froze over under his heavy but hidden racism. Ten years on, race relations in SA are probably the worst they've ever been.

Tata, Macbeki. It's good to see you go. (Not that your successor-apparent promises to be any better, but that's another story.)
 
That 'holiday' put SA on the map. Made trade relations and got SA uninterrupted growth for 10 years

Bull, that holiday made us the laughing stock of the world. When he pranced around all people saw was some banana republic Aid's denialist - and that was before Zimbabwe.

The economy had everything to do with the resources boom and general world economic upswing than the three M's.
 
That 'holiday' put SA on the map. Made trade relations and got SA uninterrupted growth for 10 years

So then hire him as the trade relations man and bring in a president who cares about people dying everyday, who wants to help the country in the country.

Wow he put us on the map.

Lets see we have high interest rates, petrol is expensive, crime capital of world, we have people in powerful positions who recommend garlic and veggies to cure aids.
I can put money on the fact we would be on the map without him and our country would not be so crime ridden with a decent president. It amazes me how people think a president should try and put a country on the map before solving its problems. Guess we have different views on what a PRESIDENT should do. Also lets talk about the Zimbabwe problem, what did he do? Nothing he let millions of zim's cross our borders and destroy the country and let Mugabe do whatever he wanted.

Please Mbeki was an epic failure as a president, Trade minister he would have been awesome.

Atleast we are on the map i suppose. Pity our kids cannot play in the streets after dark anymore, pity we are getting murdered, raped, burgled all in the name of trade.

Mbeki should not go down in history as South Africa's president, this would entail actually running a country and you cannot do that when your never in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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So then hire him as the trade relations man and bring in a president who cares about people dying everyday, who wants to help the country in the country.

Wow he put us on the map.

Lets see we have high interest rates, petrol is expensive, crime capital of world, we have people in powerful positions who recommend garlic and veggies to cure aids.
I can put money on the fact we would be on the map without him and our country would not be so crime ridden with a decent president. It amazes me how people think a president should try and put a country on the map before solving its problems. Guess we have different views on what a PRESIDENT should do. Also lets talk about the Zimbabwe problem, what did he do? Nothing he let millions of zim's cross our borders and destroy the country and let Mugabe do whatever he wanted.

Please Mbeki was an epic failure as a president, Trade minister he would have been awesome.

Atleast we are on the map i suppose. Pity our kids cannot play in the streets after dark anymore, pity we are getting murdered, raped, burgled all in the name of trade.

Mbeki should not go down in history as South Africa's president, this would entail actually running a country and you cannot do that when your never in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very well put!
 
Mbeki presided over several scandals and corruptions which have all pretty much been swept under the carpet. He allowed an idiot to drive the national policy on AIDS which has allowed the disease to spread and claim more victims... and closer to home he has allowed that clown, Ivy to mismanage the communications industry in South Africa at a time when we could have become a major player on the internet... esp. in the call centre and online design industry. OTOH, the economy has done pretty well. kudos for that.
 
I think a lot of you have forgotten about some of the important, positive and significant changes that Mbeki directly made to this country during his term as president. I will name them for you:
















Good bloody riddance I say. However what we will have to endure next worries me even more...
 
ER, I wasn't protecting the man, he fooked a lot of things such as crime, Zim and health..

Let me quote as to WHY I posted that:

Done alot?

What has he done since becoming president, other than holiday all over the world?
 
Borak you say Mbeki put us on the map, i say Mandela put us on the map.

It takes a great man not to come out of prison 27 years later and not murder every white in the country, he put us on the map, along with 2010 world cup.

DJ your worried about what is to come, i'm excited because crime is getting worse, AIDS infection is through the roof, Zim okes are streaming through the border in their thousands in search of food and work. So now with Mbeki gone we might actually get someone who runs the country and worries about our problems and not about putting us on the map, i would rather have someone tackling crime and the Zim situation than putting us on the map. Zuma hate's Mugabe, hopefully this hate will involve an invasion of Zimbabwe.

I cannot see anyone pulling a Zimbabwe in this country, so i can only see things getting better. Although i have been known to be wrong on many many occasions :p
 
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