Going Camera Shopping

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K for Christmas decided to buy myself a new camera want a dSLR as my other camera is getting on in the tooth (well thats what I told my wife) anyway any recommendations? Got around R7000.00 to spend at the moment but am really confused with what to buy. So any suggestions ?

[bwana]

Is this your first (d)SRL?

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Is this your first (d)SRL?

Yip, I have a Fujifilm s5000 at the moment, I do still have a Pentax mZ30 (or someting) film SLR camera but it is such a mission getting the film developed thought I deserved a new toy.

[bwana]

You might be able to use those pentax lenses so perhaps look at some of the Pentax models?

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I have checked the lenses they also work with Cannon cameras have checked them on a mates camera, but I just don't know whats best at the moment with regards dSLR in that price range and even if I cant use those lenses my mate wants to buy them so not to perturbed if they don't fit the camera I do buy.

[foozball3000]

http://www.take2.co.za/list.php?type=4&cat=212&subsearch=&filter=avail&country=&alpha=&order=RealPrice&page=6
Scroll to the bottom... take your pick. :)

[foozball3000]

Let us know what you end up with. I need something more powerful than my Canon PowerShot A540

[bwana]

I have checked the lenses they also work with Cannon cameras have checked them on a mates camera, but I just don't know whats best at the moment with regards dSLR in that price range and even if I cant use those lenses my mate wants to buy them so not to perturbed if they don't fit the camera I do buy.I'm looking at my pentax SLR lenses and my Canon dSLR and there's no way that lens is going to fit on my canon without some sort of adaptor.

Did you like your mates canon? There are some decent Canon 400D/1000D bundles at Makro (amongst other places) atm. The good thing about getting the same camera as friends is you can borrow their lenses and pick their brains. :D

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http://www.take2.co.za/list.php?type=4&cat=212&subsearch=&filter=avail&country=&alpha=&order=RealPrice&page=6
Scroll to the bottom... take your pick. :)

They seem a tad expensive since you can get the Canon 1000D at Makro for around R6500 ? If you take the price of the printer off ?

[bwana]

They seem a tad expensive since you can get the Canon 1000D at Makro for around R6500 ? If you take the price of the printer off ?The printer comes in the same box - you'll have to offload it some other way.

Out of the bundled specials I'd take the 400D over the 1000D.

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I'm looking at my pentax SRL lenses and my Canon dSLR and there's no way that lens is going to fit on my canon without some sort of adaptor.

Did you like your mates canon? There are some decent Canon 400D/1000D bundles at Makro (amongst other places) atm. The good thing about getting the same camera as friends is you can borrow their lenses and pick their brains. :D

Looked at the 1000D seems good, its all these numbers that confuse me :confused:

[foozball3000]

They seem a tad expensive since you can get the Canon 1000D at Makro for around R6500 ? If you take the price of the printer off ?

Canon EOS 1000D - 10.1 MegaPixel Digital Camera - Black 18mm-55mm Lens Kit
Might be wrong, but jumps in prices are usually because of the Lens you get with. I'll check out Makro's offers a bit later on. :)

[bwana]

Canon EOS 1000D - 10.1 MegaPixel Digital Camera - Black 18mm-55mm Lens Kit
Might be wrong, but jumps in prices are usually because of the Lens you get with. I'll check out Makro's offers a bit later on. :)The 400D bundle has the better camera (even if it is older) whilst the 1000D comes with the (marginally?) better IS lens. Tough call but in this case I'd go for the better body.

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Canon EOS 1000D - 10.1 MegaPixel Digital Camera - Black 18mm-55mm Lens Kit
Might be wrong, but jumps in prices are usually because of the Lens you get with. I'll check out Makro's offers a bit later on. :)

Makro has the 18mm-55mm IS lens ? Whats the 400D offer bwana can't find it on Makros site ?

[bwana]

Makro has the 18mm-55mm IS lens ? Whats the 400D offer bwana can't find it on Makros site ?IIRC (I saw it on Sun) was the 400D bundle was r6500 and consisted of the camera, lens, printer and memory card.

[ToxicBunny]

I'd also go with the 400D... Look at the bundles on SACamera.co.za

Getting a printer with a camera is a bit useless if you ask me... something like a flash or an extra battery would be considerably more useful.

[foozball3000]

Makro has the 18mm-55mm IS lens ? Whats the 400D offer bwana can't find it on Makros site ?

What does the IS stand for?
(I'm not that clued up on cameras... just recently started ;))

[bwana]

What does the IS stand for?
(I'm not that clued up on cameras... just recently started ;))Image Stabilisation.

[foozball3000]

Image Stabilisation.

And that does? :)
(And please don't answer "stabilizing the image")

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What does the IS stand for?
(I'm not that clued up on cameras... just recently started ;))

Haven't a clue :D just looks good cause its in capitals :D. I am going down to Makro just now will see if they have 400D's is there any other make I should even consider in that price range ?

[bwana]

Haven't a clue :D just looks good cause its in capitals :D. I am going down to Makro just now will see if they have 400D's is there any other make I should even consider in that price range ?have a look at the Nikon D40/D60, Sony alpha, and the pentax k200D (I think).
And that does? :)
(And please don't answer "stabilizing the image")
It helps keep the camera steady :)

[foozball3000]

have a look at the Nikon D40/D60, Sony alpha, and the pentax k200D (I think).
I've heard great things about the Sony alpha... :)


It helps keep the camera steady :)

Ah...so, if say you're in the mountains during the winter, shaking like an Old man on X, your picture should still be awesome and clear? :)

[bwana]

I've heard great things about the Sony alpha... :)



Ah...so, if say you're in the mountains during the winter, shaking like an Old man on X, your picture should still be awesome and clear? :)Some people swear by it but after using it for the past few days I'll take it or leave it. If I can save a few (ok - it's generally a considerable amount) bucks getting the non-IS version of a lens I will.

[foozball3000]

Some people swear by it but after using it for the past few days I'll take it or leave it. If I can save a few (ok - it's generally a considerable amount) bucks getting the non-IS version of a lens I will.

Makes sense. :)
*foozball is off to do some e-window-shopping with all the newly acquired info*

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I've heard great things about the Sony alpha... :)



Ah...so, if say you're in the mountains during the winter, shaking like an Old man on X, your picture should still be awesome and clear? :)

Don't go and confuse me now :o

[Devill]

And that does? :)
(And please don't answer "stabilizing the image")


have a look at the Nikon D40/D60, Sony alpha, and the pentax k200D (I think).
It helps keep the camera steady :)

I got the D60, and it is really nice it does how ever not have a "motor" in the camera to make the lenses auto focus, thus all the lenses you buy has to have one in them, ehich makes them a bit more expensive :(

But the camera is great and you can get it + 2gig mem card and a training voucher for R6000 thus leaving R1000 for another lense :D

there might well be a couple of other better deals for R7k out there :)

[ToxicBunny]

I have me a Sony Alpha a200 and its a great lil camera...

The only downside to it is that it can be hard to find lenses online for the Sony, but that is becomming less and less of a problem lately.

[foozball3000]

Don't go and confuse me now :o

lol. I have a friend who just got her Sony, and she's loving it to bits. And her photos are AWESOME! (But she's just got soooo much talent...)

Keep in mind... the camera is only a tool, the skill is in the photographer.

I have to get my new camera soon, and I'll pick the best deal I can get in a selected scope. :) And IF I someday hit that skill level where I'll really need the best of the best... then I'll get it. Till then, its an awesome toy to learn on. :)

[bwana]

I have me a Sony Alpha a200 and its a great lil camera...

The only downside to it is that it can be hard to find lenses online for the Sony, but that is becomming less and less of a problem lately.BHPhoto - save money and there are no duties (only VAT) on glass.

[ToxicBunny]

So they ship to SA now?

[bwana]

So they ship to SA now?Did they ever not? :confused: Dont confuse them with Amazon.

I've got a few things from them and even with shipping still saved a bundle.

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Ok went to Makro

Canon 1000D R 6999.00 with 2GB SD card
Nikon D60 R 5999.00 2GB SD card
Canon 400D R5499.00 only got the one on display left and not getting more.
Sony A350 R8999.99

So what you clever people think ?

[bwana]

Ok went to Makro

Canon 1000D R 6999.00 with 2GB SD card
Nikon D60 R 5999.00 2GB SD card
Canon 450D R5499.00 only got the one on display left and not getting more.
Sony A350 R8999.99

So what you clever people think ?No 400D bundle there?

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Sorry it is meant to be the 400D not 450D but all they had left was one camera which is the one in the display cabinet for R5499.00

[foozball3000]

Sorry it is meant to be the 400D not 450D but all they had left was one camera which is the one in the display cabinet for R5499.00

+1 for Pretoria!
I have 3 Makro's to choose from. :D

[ToxicBunny]

The A350 is a very nice camera...

Actually they all pretty much are... Why not go read the reviews on dpreview.com and see...

[Devill]

The A350 is a very nice camera...

Actually they all pretty much are... Why not go read the reviews on dpreview.com and see...

Aye also google "Camera X vs Camera Y" you can get a head to head comparison most of the time :)

[UglyKidJoe]

This is a tough one. I'm also in the market for a shiny new cam.

I have the Canon 300D, which is getting on a bit (ok, it's only got USB 1.0, so an upgrade is inevitable!)

The 1000D looks like an good allrounder (the DIGIC II processor is the kicker).

But then again I'm now looking at a super-zoom camera, so I don't have to lug a heap of lenses around.

Maybe have a look at the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ28. Cheap as chips and 10/10 reviews!

http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-cameras/review/2008/08/22/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-FZ28/p1

[bwana]

This is a tough one. I'm also in the market for a shiny new cam.

I have the Canon 300D, which is getting on a bit (ok, it's only got USB 1.0, so an upgrade is inevitable!)

The 1000D looks like an good allrounder (the DIGIC II processor is the kicker).Or you could use a card reader?

[chau]

I've heard great things about the Sony alpha... :)




im not sure about the other Games, but the Game in Port Elizabeth has the Sony Alpha 200 for R4900. its a discontinued model so the price has been marked down quite a bit. Maybe give Game a try and you can get a bargain?

[UglyKidJoe]

Or you could use a card reader?

Man, there goes my justification :(

[bwana]

Man, there goes my justification :(Sorry :o

EDIT - here's your justification - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=125367 - imagine this happening to you over the silly season! :eek:

Just last christmas my lcd broke and it took them until mid-feb to fix it because of everything closing. :o

[koffiejunkie]

Yip, I have a Fujifilm s5000 at the moment, I do still have a Pentax mZ30 (or someting) film SLR camera but it is such a mission getting the film developed thought I deserved a new toy.

I guess the question is which Pentax lenses do you have. If it's a useful set, then getting a Pentax body makes a lot of sense. For the money you can probably pick up a K10D (if you can still find stock) that is a semi-pro budy - better features than on any entry-level cam. And it's properly water/dust sealed too. Another advantage is that your old lenses become stabilised on the Pentax bodies, since they have the stabilisation (Shake Reduction, they call it) built into the body instead of the lens.


I have checked the lenses they also work with Cannon cameras

Either you lenses aren't Pentax or the camera you checked them on weren't Canon, but there is no way in hell K-mount lenses fit on a EOS body. Maybe the Canon body you tried was a pre-EOS (FD mount, I think)? The Pentax lenses has a narrower mount - the lens don't even seal around the sides, plus it has the protruding bit that prevents it from going all the way in.


I'm looking at my pentax SLR lenses and my Canon dSLR and there's no way that lens is going to fit on my canon without some sort of adaptor.

I know they wouldn't fit but I had to try it again. Looks like a mirror-killer if you try it on a full frame body!

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Will go check the lenses again and exactly what my old camera is maybe I dreamt it I lent the lenses to my mate on our one trip to moz. and I am sure he said they would fit :o or maybe he was just trying to get the lenses out of me for cheap. Anyway will check them and camera again tonight when I get home.

[swift412]

This is a tough one. I'm also in the market for a shiny new cam.

I have the Canon 300D, which is getting on a bit (ok, it's only got USB 1.0, so an upgrade is inevitable!)

The 1000D looks like an good allrounder (the DIGIC II processor is the kicker).
(...)


You should buy the 1000D or the 450D and sell the 300D body to me :D How does R3.50 sound?

[foozball3000]

You should buy the 1000D or the 450D and sell the 300D body to me :D How does R3.50 sound?

Is that Excluding VAT? Because with VAT and other Taxes, it will be about R 82,710.26 :D

[greg_SA]

Ok went to Makro

Canon 1000D R 6999.00 with 2GB SD card
Nikon D60 R 5999.00 2GB SD card
Canon 400D R5499.00 only got the one on display left and not getting more.
Sony A350 R8999.99

So what you clever people think ?

They are all so similar - buy the one that feels the best to use :)

[mandana]

the 450d kit is selling for R7999 at orms they are the cheapest in the country at the moment every one else is selling at R8399 or more

foto discount is second cheapest at R8399 but u get a 2 gig sandisk card thrown in.

[arf9999]

im not sure about the other Games, but the Game in Port Elizabeth has the Sony Alpha 200 for R4900. its a discontinued model so the price has been marked down quite a bit. Maybe give Game a try and you can get a bargain?

Alpha200 isn't discontinued... are you sure it wasn't a 100?

[chau]

Alpha200 isn't discontinued... are you sure it wasn't a 100?

yeah im sure its the A200. Its a discontinued model in Game but im not sure if it's been marked down in the other stores

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the 450d kit is selling for R7999 at orms they are the cheapest in the country at the moment every one else is selling at R8399 or more

foto discount is second cheapest at R8399 but u get a 2 gig sandisk card thrown in.

Just went to Whysals they have the 450 for the same price, spoke to the salesman there and he said they are all basically the same. He suggested either a Canon or Nikon for the simple reason that those two makes are the easiest to get accessories for.

[foozball3000]

Just went to Whysals they have the 450 for the same price, spoke to the salesman there and he said they are all basically the same. He suggested either a Canon or Nikon for the simple reason that those two makes are the easiest to get accessories for.

Does this then conclude your decision on the camera you want? :D

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Does this then conclude your decision on the camera you want? :D

No not at all cause now I am getting greedy have decided it will be a Canon but they had some nice 450D bundles with lenses and extras so waiting till next Friday see how much my tomorrow money is and beef the R7000 up a bit :D

[foozball3000]

No not at all cause now I am getting greedy have decided it will be a Canon but they had some nice 450D bundles with lenses and extras so waiting till next Friday see how much my tomorrow money is and beef the R7000 up a bit :D

lol. Go big, or go home. :D

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Pretty much the guy from Whysals said just come see me before you buy from anywhere else and they would try and match it, always had good help and service from them so think I might just do that.

[mandana]

ok who are these whysals ppl?


ok i found them... doesnt look like they update their website much. they have the 400d kit at R9500 a bit steep if u ask me...

now the site is down, the seem to be updating....

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ok who are these whysals ppl?


ok i found them... doesnt look like they update their website much. they have the 400d kit at R9500 a bit steep if u ask me...

now the site is down, the seem to be updating....

they have a shop in pavillion in Durban don't know if they are country wide, yes there website sucks but the staff are very helpful and knowledgeable.

[BigAl-sa]

yeah im sure its the A200. Its a discontinued model in Game but im not sure if it's been marked down in the other stores
I'm with arf here, the Sony a200 is not a discontinued model, it was only released late last year, and the review (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra200/) on dpreview was only done in July this year.

Linky (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=15151&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644543353)

[ToxicBunny]

Whysalls are really good...

Their prices might be a bit more than other ppls, but their service is v v good.

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Whysalls are really good...

Their prices might be a bit more than other ppls, but their service is v v good.

Yip their service is excellent and they don't try bullsh.. you into buying something just because its more expensive.

P.S when you coming for your beer ? :D

[ToxicBunny]

Oh yeah, that beer... I keep getting overly busy... and now sick.. life is just so hunkydory... :)...

[Devill]

Saw the Nikon D60 for R5300 with 18-55 lense

Saw the Canon 1000D with 18-55 lense for R5999 (will just go make sure this afternoon)

Lim supply.

To be found at new world :D

[Devill]

Saw the Nikon D60 for R5300 with 18-55 lense

Saw the Canon 1000D with 18-55 lense for R5999 (will just go make sure this afternoon)

Lim supply.

To be found at new world :D

Here is the shops info :)

http://www.menlynpark.co.za/store-info.php?id=65&PHPSESSID=efe89...

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Think I made my mind up going for the Canon 450D, just got to see which shop/bundle i take.

[HaNsA]

just bought a 450D yesterday ;)

http://www.orms.co.za/product.php?a=view&product=1408

special...450D with the 18-55IS lens for the same price as the body alone :) (8k)

[mandana]

i'm getting mine at BnH Digital in Sandton City...pick up at 9am whoooo watch me not sleep tonight

oh price is 8k too

[mandana]

i got it i got it *jumps up n down*

7 months of savin finaly over

now comes the HUGE learning curve...

[ToxicBunny]

That, and the new saving curve for the lenses :p

Congrats... I hope you enjoy your new toy...

[mandana]

thanx TB... i have a months respite before the savings starts again