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xrapidx
02-12-2008, 05:13 PM
Does anyone have any tips w.r.t. using Flickr? Just set up a profile and was wondering if anyone has anything to share?

e.g. Do you upload the full file, or make a smaller res one, etc.

marine1
02-12-2008, 05:17 PM
I normally make them smaller as uploading a big file takes long. What else can I help you with?

Deenem
02-12-2008, 05:39 PM
I usually upload the originals, they get resized on the site so people don't have to download the full size.

- Get Flickr Uploader as well, allows you to do batch uploads to your account

- If you have a camera phone, get a piece of software called Shozu. Allows you to upload directly from your phone to Flickr, very cool.

- Make friends with people too, ldmelsa and bwana are both on, I'm d.massyn. you can add anyone to your friends list, they don't have to accept you.

gdiza
02-12-2008, 06:02 PM
I resize all photos to 50% the original size so the file size comes down (like, 3MB to 1MB)

Then

I use the Flickr upload tool and upload the pictures and arrange them according to sets.

With movies, I use the web version of the tool to upload movies, it normally fails on 99% (I have no idea why but it actually does get uploaded just gets stuck on 99% :( )

Flickr FTW! :D

bwana
02-12-2008, 07:10 PM
I dont upload anything larger than 1024x1024 anymore.

koffiejunkie
02-12-2008, 10:55 PM
I dont upload anything larger than 1024x1024 anymore.

+1. And since someone offered me money for a picture I took, I've even started uploading some of them in 500x500.

koffiejunkie
02-12-2008, 11:02 PM
Oh, and join this group (http://www.flickr.com/groups/mybroadband/) and upload to it.

xrapidx
03-12-2008, 09:11 AM
Oh, and join this group (http://www.flickr.com/groups/mybroadband/) and upload to it.

Done !

xrapidx
03-12-2008, 05:23 PM
Anyone use any facebook based flickr apps? Trying out "My Flickr"

koffiejunkie
03-12-2008, 08:47 PM
I don't upload anything to facebook. Read their terms&conditions, especially the "content" part.

All your pictures are belong to us.... :eek:

mercurial
04-12-2008, 07:47 AM
I need to set up my Flickr account today.

xrapidx
04-12-2008, 02:14 PM
I don't upload anything to facebook. Read their terms&conditions, especially the "content" part.

All your pictures are belong to us.... :eek:

Sons of *.

*runs off to delete pictures* :p

koffiejunkie
04-12-2008, 02:45 PM
Sons of *.

*runs off to delete pictures* :p

Now for part two. Facebook doesn't delete images. The reason is really a simple technical consideration, nothing sinister, but still. If I remember correctly, they also mention in the terms&conditions that they reserve the right to not remove things or something to that effect.

LancelotSA
04-12-2008, 02:51 PM
Does anyone have any tips w.r.t. using Flickr? Just set up a profile and was wondering if anyone has anything to share?

e.g. Do you upload the full file, or make a smaller res one, etc.

This might interest you as a means of uploading your photos... :)

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=2345237&postcount=1

I just posted it and then spotted this post.

Deenem
04-12-2008, 04:18 PM
I don't upload anything to facebook. Read their terms&conditions, especially the "content" part.

All your pictures are belong to us.... :eek:

They need the right to make 'copies' of your photos in order to display them on the web.

If they didn't have that right, then it would be illegal for them to display them on a public website.

It's the same for any website where you upload content that is publically displayed, you need to grant them the right to publish it.

Nothing sinister.

bwana
04-12-2008, 04:33 PM
They need the right to make 'copies' of your photos in order to display them on the web.

If they didn't have that right, then it would be illegal for them to display them on a public website.

It's the same for any website where you upload content that is publically displayed, you need to grant them the right to publish it.

Nothing sinister.Facebook reserves the "right to copy, publicly display, translate, distribute and to create derivative works" so it seems they can pretty much do whatever they like with them.

I've yet to see anything that resembles that on Flickr's site.

koffiejunkie
04-12-2008, 04:33 PM
They need the right to make 'copies' of your photos in order to display them on the web.

If they didn't have that right, then it would be illegal for them to display them on a public website.

It's the same for any website where you upload content that is publically displayed, you need to grant them the right to publish it.

Nothing sinister.

They need the right to display it, and for that they only need the right to store it for as long as you wish to have it stored.

They do not need the right to keep it after you removed it. But as I have said earlier, the reason it is kept is technical - it costs more in terms of disc cycles to remove it from disc, than to just remove it from your profile. Through my work I have been fortunate to see some of what goes on behind the scenes - they deal with a staggering number of just about everything. The number of concurrent online users is more than anything I've seen on any other site (I'm talking big sites, like youtube, myspace and flickr), and they deal with a few million new images per hour. So this part I understand.

But they certainly don't need the right to use, and/or sub-license, for profit my images.

EDIT: You really should read their terms&conditions. Pay close attention to the "Content" part.

LancelotSA
04-12-2008, 04:34 PM
Flickr's terms and conditions are available here .... http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/utos-173.html


And here is an excerpt from Facebook's :


You may remove your User Content from the Site at any time. If you choose to remove your User Content, the licence granted above will automatically expire, however you acknowledge that the Company may retain archived copies of your User Content. Facebook does not assert any ownership over your User Content; rather, as between us and you, subject to the rights granted to us in these Terms, you retain full ownership of all of your User Content and any intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights associated with your User Content.

http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf

LancelotSA
04-12-2008, 04:35 PM
Facebook reserves the "right to copy, publicly display, translate, distribute and to create derivative works" so it seems they can pretty much do whatever they like with them.

I've yet to see anything that resembles that on Flickr's site.

Flickr terms and conditions redirect to Yahoo (mommy) :


Yahoo! does not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for inclusion on the Yahoo! Services. However, with respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services, you grant Yahoo! the following worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license :

With respect to photos, graphics, audio or video you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services other than Yahoo! Groups, the license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Yahoo! Services solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available. This license exists only for as long as you elect to continue to include such Content on the Yahoo! Services and will terminate at the time you remove or Yahoo! removes such Content from the Yahoo! Services.

So unless your album is private it is free game too...

bwana
04-12-2008, 04:41 PM
Flickr terms and conditions redirect to Yahoo (mommy) :



So unless your album is private it is free game too...I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. :o

LancelotSA
04-12-2008, 04:44 PM
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. :o

I think as Koffie says, these sites need to have these terms and conditions to keep themselves from being sued for someone's image ending up in the wrong place. They are covering their own asses rather than saying they are going to use your images for their gain.

bwana
04-12-2008, 04:46 PM
I think as Koffie says, these sites need to have these terms and conditions to keep themselves from being sued for someone's image ending up in the wrong place. They are covering their own asses rather than saying they are going to use your images for their gain.But they sure dont rule that possibility out though do they.

koffiejunkie
04-12-2008, 04:48 PM
LancelotSA, you leave out the bit immediately preceeding that:


When you post User Content to the Site, you authorise and direct us to make such copies thereof as we deem necessary in order to facilitate the posting and storage of the User Content on the Site. By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide licence (with the right to sublicence) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorise sublicences of the foregoing.


You may remove your User Content from the Site at any time. If you choose to remove your User Content, the licence granted above will automatically expire, however you acknowledge that the Company may retain archived copies of your User Content. Facebook does not assert any ownership over your User Content; rather, as between us and you, subject to the rights granted to us in these Terms, you retain full ownership of all of your User Content and any intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights associated with your User Content.

So even if you don't lose the rights to your images, you do give them a full, free, gratis license to do what ever the hell they want with it. So by this license, they take a picture of you, photoshop your face onto some guy shagging his goat, and sell it to a bestiality website for good money, and you will not get a penny and won't be able to stop them either.

If anyone is going to make a buck off my pictures, it had better be me.

koffiejunkie
04-12-2008, 04:52 PM
I think as Koffie says, these sites need to have these terms and conditions to keep themselves from being sued for someone's image ending up in the wrong place. They are covering their own asses rather than saying they are going to use your images for their gain.

I wouldn't bet on it. They need to make money too.

LancelotSA
04-12-2008, 04:53 PM
But they sure dont rule that possibility out though do they.

Yeah for sure. But none of the image sites do I reckon.


LancelotSA, you leave out the bit immediately preceeding that:

Yes I know. I posted both of those for differing reasons. The first was to show that although Facebook do say they they have rights to use your images they do not take ownership of them and you are free to delete them.


So even if you don't lose the rights to your images, you do give them a full, free, gratis license to do what ever the hell they want with it. So by this license, they take a picture of you, photoshop your face onto some guy shagging his goat, and sell it to a bestiality website for good money, and you will not get a penny and won't be able to stop them either.

If anyone is going to make a buck off my pictures, it had better be me.

And the terms of Flickr (Yahoo) appear to say the same thing so it nullifies this argument. The only way your pictures are safe is on your own computer (and even then you need to hope you don't get hacked!)

LancelotSA
04-12-2008, 04:55 PM
I wouldn't bet on it. They need to make money too.

I really cannot see how they are going to use my reduced size/low res images on Facebook to make money... now if you could upload full size images like on Flickr then fine! It would also only take one story like this to get out on the net for them to die... so yes, they need to make money but with no users they are worth nothing!

Deenem
04-12-2008, 05:50 PM
If anyone is going to make a buck off my pictures, it had better be me.

Apparently they aren't profitable, but the point is that they (should) make money by attracting visitors to their site, and they attact visitors to their site by displying your photos publically.

No photo's, no website, no profits.

So yes, they are already making a buck off your pictures, (or at least trying to)

xrapidx
06-12-2008, 01:53 PM
Is there away to change the way pictures are ordered in the photostream? Mine are ordered by Uploaded Date, I'd prefer Taken Date.

koffiejunkie
07-12-2008, 12:57 AM
Nope, but you could change the upload date on the image. Click on "More Properties" link.

xrapidx
10-12-2008, 03:23 PM
Who has a pro account?

mercurial
10-12-2008, 03:27 PM
I'm considering getting one. It's on $25.

koffiejunkie
10-12-2008, 03:35 PM
Who has a pro account?

Me.

bwana
10-12-2008, 04:07 PM
Who has a pro account?Moi and several free ones.

xrapidx
10-12-2008, 04:31 PM
Moi and several free ones.

Why do you have several free ones? :confused:

Is the pro worth it?

bwana
10-12-2008, 04:52 PM
Why do you have several free ones? :confused:

Is the pro worth it?Sometimes its easier for me to quickly set up a flickr account that to set up one up on one of my servers.

Is it worth it? Not sure really - try it for a year and figure it out for yourself. I probably wont renew mine for a third year when the second expires.

BeatleJuice
12-12-2008, 10:49 PM
I have just opened my very first account and uploaded a couple of pics at.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beatlejuicester/

I downsized them through Lightroom via export to email. Not sure if this is the correct way?

koffiejunkie
13-12-2008, 04:17 AM
I downsized them through Lightroom via export to email. Not sure if this is the correct way?

I would rather use File --> Export... which gives you a lot more control over the export process.

xrapidx
13-12-2008, 09:35 AM
I use the flickr upload tool to resize mine.

BeatleJuice
13-12-2008, 11:41 AM
I would rather use File --> Export... which gives you a lot more control over the export process.

Thanks, I see that I have lost all the exif details as well.


I use the flickr upload tool to resize mine.

I am busy downloading it atm, and I will give it a go.

bwana
13-12-2008, 11:54 AM
Thanks, I see that I have lost all the exif details as well.Or you might not have enabled them in flickr?

BeatleJuice
13-12-2008, 12:24 PM
Or you might not have enabled them in flickr?

Just checked. It was disabled, and I have enabled it , but the exif data is still missing.

bwana
13-12-2008, 12:37 PM
Just checked. It was disabled, and I have enabled it , but the exif data is still missing.

You might need to re upload it? You could try one and see how it goes.

ld13
13-12-2008, 01:10 PM
I dont upload anything larger than 1024x1024 anymore.

I also try to downsize my pics before uploading them just to save my 100MB cap I have with the free account. But if don't have time, I just upload them as is.


I resize all photos to 50% the original size so the file size comes down (like, 3MB to 1MB)

Then

I use the Flickr upload tool and upload the pictures and arrange them according to sets.

I reduce my size to about 30-50% using Photoshop before uploading either directly via the Flickr website or the FireUploader (http://www.fireuploader.com) plugin for FireFox.


I don't upload anything to facebook. Read their terms&conditions, especially the "content" part.
All your pictures are belong to us.... :eek:

I upload my pics to facebook if it is too much for my Flickr account to handle. Luckily the quality on Facebook is sub-par so the pics on there are kinda useless for anyone planning to 'steal' them.

bwana
13-12-2008, 01:37 PM
I also try to downsize my pics before uploading them just to save my 100MB cap I have with the free account. But if don't have time, I just upload them as is.I have a preset in aperture that exports them exactly as I like for various destinations. No muss no fuss. :)

BeatleJuice
13-12-2008, 03:00 PM
You might need to re upload it? You could try one and see how it goes.

Looks like Lightroom drops this data when exporting to email. With the other export methods, it appears to keep the data intact.

BeatleJuice
13-12-2008, 05:08 PM
Success at last. :) 3 more pics uploaded with exif data.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/beatlejuicester/

.Froot.
16-12-2008, 06:36 PM
I registered at Yahoo and Flickr but keep on getting the following error:
http://www.flickr.com/register_cookies.gne

It says my cookies aren't enabled. I've tried both FF and Konqueror but to no avail.

koffiejunkie
16-12-2008, 09:24 PM
That page tells met that too (maybe that's just a static page?) Either ways, it works in all the browsers on my Linux box and I certainly didn't need to enable cookies manually. Maybe it's just failing some sort of browser version check or something. Or doesn't flickr work at all?

.Froot.
17-12-2008, 05:54 AM
That page tells met that too (maybe that's just a static page?) Either ways, it works in all the browsers on my Linux box and I certainly didn't need to enable cookies manually. Maybe it's just failing some sort of browser version check or something. Or doesn't flickr work at all?

Each time I login after the validate cookie, it redirects to that static page...

marine1
17-12-2008, 06:14 AM
Success at last. :) 3 more pics uploaded with exif data.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/beatlejuicester/
Sies man cat pornography :eek: :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beatlejuicester/3114028644/

mercurial
17-12-2008, 07:46 AM
Sies man cat pornography :eek: :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beatlejuicester/3114028644/

ROFL :D

marine1
17-12-2008, 07:55 AM
Too cute man, my chicken wants to get 2 cats from the SPCA early Jan, I think we may just do it. :D

bwana
17-12-2008, 08:13 AM
Too cute man, my chicken wants to get 2 cats from the SPCA early Jan, I think we may just do it. :DWe got this ugly bugger the other day.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/3103840577_1e339628c5.jpg?v=0 (http://flickr.com/photos/bwanarsa/3103840577/)

marine1
17-12-2008, 08:16 AM
We got this ugly bugger the other day.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/3103840577_1e339628c5.jpg?v=0 (http://flickr.com/photos/bwanarsa/3103840577/)
Awww man, Jeez I love animals so much.