DAMN U ICASA just how much further can we go back?

armitage

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Thanks ICASA your making us more retarded by the day.
here's a beautiful one finger salute to u our proud gov.

Imagine when an american tourist(or most other non african countries tourists) comes to south africa. " what i have to pay what to go on the internet to send my digital pics? Are u fewking nuts?"

Just think what it would do to south africa to actually have a good wifi coverage net? our tourism biz would skyrocket

Im starting to consider just not to go on the net anymore just to avoid seeing things like this.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1212&e=2&u=/ap/20040901/ap_on_hi_te/wireless_cities&sid=95573501


"PHILADELPHIA - For about $10 million, city officials believe they can turn all 135 square miles of Philadelphia into the world's largest wireless Internet hot spot.

The ambitious plan, now in the works, would involve placing hundreds, or maybe thousands of small transmitters around the city — probably atop lampposts. Each would be capable of communicating with the wireless networking cards that now come standard with many computers.

Once complete, the network would deliver broadband Internet almost anywhere radio waves can travel — including poor neighborhoods where high-speed Internet access is now rare.

And the city would likely offer the service either for free, or at costs far lower than the $35 to $60 a month charged by commercial providers, said the city's chief information officer, Dianah Neff.

"If you're out on your front porch with a laptop, you could dial in, register at no charge, and be able to access a high speed connection," Neff said. "It's a technology whose time is here."

If the plan becomes a reality, Philadelphia could leap to the forefront of a growing number of cities that have contemplated offering wireless Internet service to residents, workers and guests.

Chaska, Minn., a suburb of Minneapolis, began offering citywide wireless Internet access this year for $16 a month. The signal covers about 13 square miles.

Corpus Christi, Texas, has been experimenting with a system covering 20 square miles that would be used (for now) only by government employees.

Over the past year, Cleveland has added some 4,000 wireless transmitters in its University Circle, Midtown and lakefront districts. The service is free, and available to anyone who passes through the areas.

Some 1,016 people were logged in to the system at 2:20 Tuesday afternoon, said Lev Gonick, chief information officer at Case Western Reserve University, which is spearheading the project and paying for a chunk of it.

"We like to say it should be like the air you breathe — free and available everywhere," Gonick said. "We look at this like PBS or NPR. It should be a public resource."

In New York, city officials are negotiating to sell wireless carriers space on 18,000 lampposts for as much as $21.6 million annually. T-Mobile USA Inc., Nextel Partners Inc., IDT Corp. and three other wireless carriers want the equipment to increase their networks' capacity.

One part of the 15-year deal is cheap Wi-Fi phones for neighborhoods where less than 95 percent of residents have home phones. IDT, which has agreed to market the cheaper phone service in those neighborhoods, would pay lower rates for poles there than other companies would in wealthier areas.

Wireless technology has improved by leaps and bounds in recent years and become drastically less expensive.

The new "wireless mesh" technology under consideration in Philadelphia has made it possible to expand those similar networks over entire neighborhoods, with the help of relatively cheap antennas.

Neff estimated it would cost about $10 million to pay for the initial infrastructure for the system, plus $1.5 million a year to maintain.

Philadelphia Mayor John F. Street, a technology buff who carries a wireless handheld computer everywhere he goes, appointed a 14-member committee last week to work out the specifics of his city's plan, including any fees, or restrictions on its use."



<b>One part of the 15-year deal is cheap Wi-Fi phones for neighborhoods where less than 95 percent of residents have home phones. IDT, which has agreed to market the cheaper phone service in those neighborhoods, would pay lower rates for poles there than other companies would in wealthier areas.</b>

95% have telephones and that's considered low income, damn.
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Now imagine for instance the cape town unicity for instance decided to do this? how many lamp posts are there??? how many ppl are there in cape town? it costs next to nothing for the gov to rent out the lamp posts and they can get quite a nice amount of revenue from leasing out the poles.




Proud South african rip offs.
 
Yip, you're right. Seeing things like that just make you sick!!
Perhaps this is an idea local government or city council need to get behind as a way of furthering their income( 'cause lets face it,money talks) and at the same time making Cape Town a hotspot for internet access etc. and more attractive for business and tourism.
Look at it this way goverment, sell the space to those who want to install a service 1) you make money and 2 ) dont have to do maintain anything 3) it prevents us from falling further and further behind in the digital divide.
Oh and I forgot to mention...change legislation to let it happen!!!!!

"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."
 
What other option is their other than Wireless where you cannot obtain a Hard Line from Telkom? And I mean anything besides a Cell Phone.

Telkom won't put in cabling if it isn't financially feasible. They have stated this and many people have got mail from Telkom to this fact. No other wire company in SA that will install a line to your premises even exists. I think that they should be able to make other arrangements. And Wireless is the best alternative. They have a Right to decent communications at an affordable rate and a Cell Phone IMO is a Luxury in this country. Besides you cannot browse the internet on a Cell Phone. Well not yet and the cost would cripple you anyway.

People reading this thread will wonder about users that live in built up areas using Wireless, where Hard Lines are available. Well the opposite should apply to them, like Telkom's excuse. It isn't financially feasible to own a Telkom Hard Line. At least not for the majority of people in SA.


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The simple thing is that the goverment, ICASA, TELKOM and sentech might eventually bring out this product but considering how much telkom would charge u and how bad the sentech version would be it leaves the door open only to private companies cause face it gov cant be too concerned with getting the telco's industry up to scratch when they have ppl going hungry in this za.

The boon that this would be to the economy would be insane.
Look at the shuttleworth foundation making their mp3 players small radio and the like. were not incapable of doing these things ourselves. if we could make the product the amount of ppl that we could create jobs for would be immense.

Proud South african rip offs.
 
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