Government clamps down on child pornography

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By Douglas Carew

Child pornography becomes one of the most serious crimes in South Africa from next week.

Perpetrators will face prison terms of up to 30 years.

In a series of hard-hitting amendments to the Film and Publications Act:



The maximum jail term for producing, distributing and possessing child pornography has been raised from five to 30 years;


Internet service providers will face criminal prosecution if they fail to block access to child pornography sites after members of the public or the police have informed them of their existence;


People who repair computers will be held criminally liable if they do not report clients whose computer hard drives contain child porn, and so will photography shops that fail to report child pornography on films sent in for developing and printing.

The amendments will be signed into law by President Thabo Mbeki next week, two years after Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, the minister of home affairs, who was then a deputy minister, promised in an August 2002 interview with Independent Newspapers to crack down on child pornographers.

Mapisa-Nqakula's department is responsible for enforcing the Film and Publications Act, which governs child pornography. The body set up to administer the act is the Film and Publications Board, which is headed by Iyavar Chetty, the acting chief executive.

Chetty said the production, possession and distribution of child pornography would now be three separate offences. "The courts will now be able to sentence per count, rather than treat production, possession and distribution as one offence."

With the maximum sentence for contravening the act increased to 10 years, this meant that theoretically a child pornographer who produced, possessed and distributed banned material could be sent to jail for 30 years instead of the previous maximum sentence of five years.

Internet service providers would have to register with the board and co-operate in blocking access to child pornography on the internet. "When they are advised to do so by the police or if they have knowledge of child porn sites they must take action," Chetty said.

He stressed that this did not mean that internet service providers would be monitoring their clients' surfing habits, but once they got information about a child porn site they had an obligation to act by blocking access to that site.

"It is not a Big Brother thing of checking up on what you are surfing."

Another addition to the act is that South African citizens who commit child pornography-related offences in other countries can be prosecuted when they return home.

Members of the public who are aware of child pornography activities could be held criminally liable if they do not report those activities to the police.

Chetty said the act's definition of child pornography had also been redefined as part of the amendments. "Previously the definition did not include a ban on images of the anal area. It stopped at the genitals. But we know that paedophiles are also interested in the anal area of children."

Chetty also reminded the public that the only people allowed to possess child pornography were those doing bona fide research, and they had to get permission from the Film and Publications Board.

This article was originally published on page 1 of Sunday Independent on September 12, 2004
 
I do not condone Child Porn in any way whatsoever, but I find this a rather frightening concept:

"Internet service providers will face criminal prosecution if they fail to block access to child pornography sites after members of the public or the police have informed them of their existence;"

Is this the start of internet censorship in South Africa?
and then:

"People who repair computers will be held criminally liable if they do not report clients whose computer hard drives contain child porn, and so will photography shops that fail to report child pornography on films sent in for developing and printing."

This is starting too look like Gorge Orwell, you have to, by law, report on your neighbors and Friends computer usage!

Although it later states:
"He stressed that this did not mean that internet service providers would be monitoring their clients' surfing habits, but once they got information about a child porn site they had an obligation to act by blocking access to that site."

I still think this is the thin end of the wedge. Before long it could be law to block access to anything the government is not happy with. The precedent has been set.

"It is not a Big Brother thing of checking up on what you are surfing."

Is that double speak for Big Brother is watching you.

Just my thought for the day.
Cheers
Chris
 
the problem is how do ISP's block this content in a world of floating domains and dynamic addressing there is little hope of been able to block much ... and quite frankly i worry about photograph developers and repair men who check out the pics/data ... that is unetheical

the true "dont want to be caught" child porn magnet will not be bothered by these laws and i feel those who browse potentialy dodgy sites my not use repair men any more ...
 
Let me start off by saying I fully support the government's initiative to stop child porn. I do however feel that this amendment to be rather ineffectual.

It brings us to the typical problem of "virtual" enforcement.

As you indicated loosecannon, most "serious" child porn distributors/producers will be largely unaffected by this. They can (and do) use a variety of encryption techniques to protect their "assets" in transit and while locally stored on the hard drives etc.

Active monitoring of HTTP traffic for child porn sites would have to be a dynamic process shared across the all SA tier 1 ISPs. Most of the sites that host this sort of data use dynamic IP addresses and these change so often that it would be almost impossible to keep such a list current. I doubt that this would however block the majority of such images/videos.

P2P is as always going to be the primary nightmare. Dynamic ports; Different protocols; and now encryption ... no the ACTIVE prevention will be difficult. The passive inspection of PC's by technicians etc would probably be more effective.

The technicians doing a search on a pc for all images and videos; viewing them; and at THEIR discretion reporting it as child porn has so many privacy concerns that it's absolutely frightening ! I’m sorry but I would NOT want a techie being able to legally go through ALL my files. This act basically indicates that if you take your hardware in to be repaired (lets say to upgrade a video card) the techie can/must by law/should go through your pc and it’s contents!

This modification to the act is more likely to affect Joe public.

Just a thought: The next time you receive spam from a sex site/child porn site you could end up being in violation of the act - I just hope government doesn't get silly with the interpretation of this act. It could get seriously out of hand.
 
I realise my above post may seem alarmist (like the monitoring thread elsewhere) but I just want to highlight potential problems with the act.
 
Heehee - not alarmist at all. A sober, unemotive posting relevant to the issue at hand, and the complete antithesis of the hysterical initial posting on the other thread...

I think what must not be lost sight of, is the need for a statutory and regulatory baseline initially to be put in place, which will allow for law enforcement as necessary. Without this, there are no checks and balances - not only in terms of the rights of the citizenry as enshrined within the Constitution, but also for those charged with law enforcement to enable them to do their jobs.

Personal freedoms are sacrosant only to the extent that they do not impact on the freedoms of others and broader society - for this reason, it is necessary that the required statutory and regulatory provisions be put in place. At the same time, provide for review and oversight mechanisms to ensure sustained relevancy and preclude potential abuse, bearing in mind societal objectives and the fact that we are part of a global village, which has its own set of imperatives to consider...
 
Here is my potential dilemma.

I have several clients who pay me a retainer to look after their networks. I have full control of planing, purchasing, applications and security, in short the full trust of the client.

1) At present, if I come across questionable content on any machine, I draw up an acceptable use policy and ask management to get every one to sign it. If the abuse continues I report it to management (Is that sufficient in terms of the act?). What happens if the management are the culprit?

2) Several of my clients are compeating in the same industry. I make full disclosure of that fact before taking on a new client. This implies a great deal of faith, on the part of the client, that I will not reveal any information gleaned from their network. Is this not akin to "Attorney / Client Privilege"?. I occasionally come across unlicensed applications on networks, I don't condone the practice but I would rather work with the client to resolve the licensing issues than report them to the SPA.

3)Obviously if a client were publishing, distributing or otherwise trading in Child Porn, they would not be on my books for long. But on the other hand, if I find that one is downloading the stuff, do I have to legally report them and in so doing not only lose that portion of my income but at the same time destroy the trust that I have earned with the rest of my clients.

For that matter who am I to judge what constitutes porn?

Any one else in a similar position?

Cheers
Chris
 
there was a landmark case in the USA where a profesional photographer and friend was taking pics of the family some of these were of the kids naked [we all have naked baby pics] this was blown out of proportion and they lost everything in defending themselves ... was tossed out in the end and goverment payed dammages ...

in all things balance ... and to be extreme is a error in legislative issues and to each there own when it comes to trading pics and taking sexualy explisit pics sure that is wrong ...

now there are sex offenders who get off on pictures of school kids ... the pictures on school websites are enough for them but this is not covered by law and prehaps should not be ever ... there will be cracks and to make sure those cracks are wide enough make sense and at the same time not to narrow is the job to be done ...

let us not ever pass reactionary legistlation as they have in the states ...
 
what about drawn pornography? since i've seen many pics of young looking people in so called hentai (japanese animated pornography) pics where the age of the person is not stated. would this fall under the law of possesing child pornography?



"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness, experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death - life is only a dream - and we're the imagination of ourselves.” – Bill Hicks
 
I think the law exists to protect children in the real world. Drawn hentai does not constitute child porn IMO... Unless a child is forced to watch it!

Cheers
Antowan

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Cloud</i>
<br />what about drawn pornography? since i've seen many pics of young looking people in so called hentai (japanese animated pornography) pics where the age of the person is not stated. would this fall under the law of possesing child pornography?



"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness, experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death - life is only a dream - and we're the imagination of ourselves.” – Bill Hicks
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### What we need in South Africa is cheap 24/7, always on Internet for under R300 a month. ###
 
I for one agree with the ethical approach but wouldn't hesistate in reporting said offender if it came to my knowledge. I also believe he/she shouldn't search for it but what about this scenario?
A techie receives a friends/boss/clients pc to repair and doesn't go through it. The next day said friend/boss/clients house is raided and child pornography is found on the pc. The first thing said by the guilty (Sick bastard) is that it wasn't there when he sent it in for repairs. Would the technie not get drawn in somehow?

ANI4ANI
 
Anyone sick enough to look at child pr0n should be put in the clink or a madhouse cos there's something very wrong with their pips.

<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
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I don't get it - why do ISP's have to register with another "board" ?
How many "boards" does the goverment want running ?
Why don't they use existing "boards" - especially those that already know the procedures for dealing with ISP's ?

And ...

The ISP must now block access to the "bad" site (At the request of the "board") - that is not going to even begin to solve the problem.

Why does the amendment not say: The ISP must block and report the (Technical (WhoIs)) details of the "bad" site, and the "board" MUST take all possible action against the "bad" site's owners ?

How is the performance of this "board" judged ? What is it's lifespan ? What exactly are they responsible for so that I can sue them if my child gets hold of this material ?

And ...

If I get a stupid popup on my screen containing this stuff - i'll be too **** scared to report it to the "board" - 30 years. Some clarity here.

This just seems like "good publicity", but no responsibility - again. *sigh*

The more you know - the worse it gets.
 
I agree with MAD. Fully!

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<br />Anyone sick enough to look at child pr0n should be put in the clink or a madhouse cos there's something very wrong with their pips.

<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za</font id="size1"></font id="navy">
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### What we need in South Africa is cheap 24/7, always on Internet for under R300 a month. ###
 
the low down from techdirt...http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20040910/109205.shtml


We've written before about a Pennsylvania law that required ISPs to block anyone from accessing child porn. There were obvious problems with this law. It's good that Pennsylvania wants to stop child porn, but putting the burden on the ISPs is the wrong way to go. ISPs, of course, are just the pipe. They shouldn't have to worry about what their users are, or are not, accessing. It was also problematic that Pennsylvania was using a ban-list that no one was allowed to review to make sure it was fair. The biggest problem, however, was that ISPs blocking sites ended up blocking other, perfectly legitimate sites that were simply hosted on shared servers. Now, a federal judge has decided that's simply too big a cost and has said the law needs to go. What still doesn't make sense, is that if Pennsylvania was able to identify all of these child porn sites, why were they wasting time getting ISPs to block them, rather than going after those who were actually responsible for running and hosting the sites, and get them taken down that way?
 
The sick bastids in Muldersdrift and Durban who've just been caught for filming and distributing child pornography, need to be put away for a very long time - if the police services were assisted in any way during their 2-month investigation by ISP's and/or the current or impending provisions of law, the more power to them I say, and the greater the relevancy of legislative provisions enabling them to do their jobs...
 
I fully agree: Ban Child Porn.

But one has to look at the tools used to kill it of.

If an ISP has to filter, who is going to bear the costs? Its clients!

If a techie receives a PC to work on, he first of all has to spend hours reviewing Mpegs, Jpegs etc for kiddie porn. Who is going to pay for his time?

I have a techie to keep the PC's and network in my company going smooth. If he gets a support call, does he have to inspect the PC content before he moves on? If that is the case, I'll have to close down and fire all - I will simply not have the funds to appoint enough techies to do the job.

BTW, I have an AUP in place, but you can't force "friends" on the outside not to mail their friends on the inside. There is no legal way to fire a person when he gets "problem messages" from the outside! Reporting such "problems" to the outside companies' bosses will cause destructive staff problems inside.

I firmly believe that the way they are attempting to blast kiddie porn is the wrong one.

Best of luck to the police & prosecuters in getting the alledged kiddie porn people through the courts.






South Africa needs World Class Broadband at World Competitive Prices.
 
I agree kaspaas, it should not be the responsibility of ISP's or techies to filter for child porn. It is also very subjective, while some pictures may quite obviously be child porn there is no clear definition. If some guy has scanned in pictures of a family picnic and his 2 year old kid is running around naked in some of them, some may class that as porn while others realise they are innocent pictures... where do you draw the line?

I don't agree with child porn in any shape or form however I don't believe in giving any more power to the government and law enforcement than is necessary as it WILL be abused.
 
I, for one, do not for one moment believe that the difficulties involved in implementing measures to track, trace, and prevent the proliferation of this kind of sick activity are insurmountable - maybe not easily and inexpensively, but certainly, with a justifiable amount of effort put into this by all the competent and tech-savvy types out there, the problem can be nailed once and for all. I don't have the answers, but I do rest easy in the knowledge that there are efforts being made by netizens out there to reduce, limit and even obviate entirely the distribution of such sick material. I believe it behoves us all to support such efforts in whatever and whichever way we can, and not to merely shrug and throw our hands up in despair. For some insight and background on such efforts, see the following links:
http://www.thummb.com
http://www.familysafemedia.com
http://www.healthymind.com
http://www.protectkids.com
http://www.levelbest.com
http://www.internetfilterreview.com
http://www.nationalcoalition.org
 
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