Cape Town WIFI mesh nets

[armitage]

Yo
If you are interested or are already actively involved in a Wifi Mesh net or just you and a buddy linking, post it here and well see if we can bridge the telkom divide and get everyone meshed together.




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[Cloud]

hey arm

i live in durbanville, vygeboom area. i am currently on uninet's 128kb package. was wondering what u had in mind, since currently i cannot game and p2p is very restricted on uninet.

what type of equipment would i need and what are the costs involved.

shot

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[Spamtheman]

Well for those who are interested I'm going to be putting together a detailed guide on setting up a point to point wireless link for under R1000 (hopefully :P). I've had some experience with wireless links at range and I think I've found a way to do it really cheaply. Should be done by the end of the year :).

[armitage]

Well the important thing is to get line of sight between us.
The only wisp that i found actually that let me play games(though no FPS(ping reliant games)) was wireless online

Cloud, i've got ppl interested that live by the Tygervalley turn off, Near the sanlam building and in between.
If you can get more ppl on that side of the hill interested we can start meshing our equipment so that the signal gets repeated over the access points.

So here's what i think we need.
1: omni directional antenna for surrounding area connectivity
2: yagi/directional antenna pinpoint transmitting of the signal so that two remote areas can be connected.
3: Access point

All these things are available from Miro that i know of. There are some other companies that i just found out about in the other post, but its gonna take a while still before i have their pricelists.

I think the last time i worked everything out the total cost came to roundabout R1600.00 per node to set up, but the nice thing is this is a once off cost and the more ppl that you have in the surrounding area the easier it becomes to get the equipment just imagine you and ten friends contributed to your hotspot.thats 160 per person which isnt a serious thing for a gamer.....that's like two organised chaos lans.

Oh and one more thing that i forgot to mention.......you need roof access to your house building condo car or trike. hehe

Cheers hoping to hear from you soon

We really need to link our network also with Solar's one then we can get the whole bellville area covered and most of boston it seems.


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[armitage]

It seems Miro is selling a integrated system for R1500.00 where the whole story is built into an enclosure.
Access point is only an 802.11b one which is quite a pity considering 802.116g is much faster.... oh well.

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[Nickste]

Lo all,

Spamtheman, would really dig something like that. Was wondering what range you get on your setup?

I am in the newlands area...
Chow, Nick

Nick Smit
broadband@nicksmit dot za dot net

[CoR]

Hi
I'm in Milnerton and my friend and i are just about to set up a p2p network as we live 100m away from eachother.
We'd be interested in linking in if possible...
Lemme know
Chow4now

[armitage]

Cor where abouts do you stay?

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[georgelza]

Ok, who is in Meyersdal, Alberton, Jhb that might be interested in somethign like this, could be a interesting little excercise.

G

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[cjm]

Hi
I'm in the Melkbos area and would be interested as well.
If there's anyone close by, please give me a shout.

Cheers

[Spamtheman]

Well the antenna design I'm looking into produces about 18 Db is circular with a diameter of 30 odd centimeter. Given that we're doing a point to point link with one of these antennas on both ends gives a combined signal strength of 30+ Db, should be good for up to 11km. When I said a cost of R1000, that would be for both sides of the link, so R500 per person. If you had an access point with an omni others could connect to that for around R500. Although I may be trying this with 802.11g if I can find reasonably priced equipment that is also FreeBSD friendly for other reasons.

If someone can organise hosting I'll actually document (with photo's) the whole assembly and installation

[Nickste]

Sounds awesome! R500 is very reasonable!

Chow, Nick

Nick Smit
broadband@nicksmit dot za dot net

[Spamtheman]

Well that's not a definite price yet, I've still got to test whether my math works out and the thing works properly but I do know a few people in NZ who have set up connections with similar equipment. Now I've just gotta get all the equipment and start fooling around :).

[armitage]

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<br />Ok, who is in Meyersdal, Alberton, Jhb that might be interested in somethign like this, could be a interesting little excercise.

G


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Georgelza start a thread for WIFI in joburg[;)]

Trying to see if we can get everyone organised into their regions

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[Spamtheman]

Armitage, I'm in Kalk Bay, doing a link to Fish Hoek. Like I said if it works I'll post detailed instructions.

[Cloud]

Armitage, my parents are renting out a house near durbanville and the person moving in there apparently has plans to start some kind of mesh. Gonna talk to him and c what his story is. Will get back to u.

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness, experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death - life is only a dream - and we're the imagination of ourselves.” – Bill Hicks

[armitage]

well i propose the cape towners who are interested meet up one day say at mugg n bean tygervalley have a cuppa java and discuss this in detail one fine saturday

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[georgelza]

Spamtheman,

how is that guide of yours coming along, i can see there are many eager ppl waiting,

G

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You Are Committed to Educate Yourself to the Total Risk In Any Activity!
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[ipodmusicman]

I would not mind taking part in a Cape Town mesh network, but since I am not an avid online gamer, I hope that the cost investment would be beneficial. I live in Sunningdale, Blouberg.

But then, if everybody got onto the mesh network, we can use VOIP to talk to each other and so remove Telkom out of the equation.

[armitage]

yep that would be one of the main reasons for me to do a mesh net. hurt telkom where it really chafes.

I recon everyone who's interested go to http://www.nodedb.com(http://www.nodedb.com/Africa/ZA/Cape_Town), register and get your potential interested node's up there so we can see who sits where so we can set up this network quite nicely with minimal use of directionals.


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[Spamtheman]

Hey guys calm down, I've still gotta source all the equipment I need to get this set up (saturday mornings are not my strong suite :P). That's why I gave myself until the end of the year to get it done.

[georgelza]

Spam, we have all the confidence in the world in you abilities, hehehe.

what type of configuration are you going for, omni direction, or direction, what type of distance, assuming you will be designing for the g (54MB) protocol...

G

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[wamatt]

Hey Spam, remember seeing yur nick around from megawan days, drop me a line if you need hosting, sounds like an interesting project.

[Spamtheman]

Well I've run into a slight snag in my project, seems *nix doesn't have a lot of support for USB 802.11b adapters let alone 802.11g. I'm keen to use USB adapters for a couple of reasons.

1. They are dirt cheap, found a 802.11g adapter for under R200.
2. USB cables carry a digital signal as opposed to the analogue one carried by antenna cables and pigtails. This meens that there would be no signal degradation due to the cabling used, allowing more marginal connections to be made.

So it looks like the connection will be between windows boxes because of driver support. On a positive note though it looks like I may be able to do the connections at 54mbit for under R400 per side.

wamatt, yeah Megawan was actually where I got the nick Spam, because I had to send out so many notifications about the network being down :). I'll take you up on the offer of hosting once I've documented everything (need to work that digital camera).

[Robot]

cant wait to see your tutorial.

I want to connect to my business adsl account and my shop is 5km away so long range wireless would be ideal

thanks in advance

[Spamtheman]

Robot, providing you have line of sight it should be easy.

[Robot]

what type of aerial and booster are you gonna use for this setup ?

Something homemade? :)

[fuzzyduk]

Spam - why not try an Apple box with OS X? Its foundation is FreeBSD. Of course pricing is an issue, but there're more and more G4's coming on the market second-hand.

Looking forward to the developments of mesh networks in Cpt.

Ciao
Simon

[Spamtheman]

*cough* apple *cough* the whole point of the exercise is to do it cheaply. I can buy an ancient box for R600 and install freebsd.

[karkas]

mmm, i actualy deal in asset recovery, so... U want a few dell poweredge p3 servers real cheap mail me at bloemreaper@yahoo.com ;)

[Robot]

Ok the distance i want is less than 5km , there might be some power lines and low trees along the way. How would i calculate the DBI needed.

Will 2 X 22dbi parabolic dishes + 2 X 9dbi feed be enuf ??
I have 2 PCI 802.11G cards , i think the idea of the usb adaptor is better for less loss due to cableing

What do you guys think?

[Spamtheman]

That is plently if you are doing a 5km link.

[Robot]

there might be trees in the way

Its hard to tell

[Rogue]

Hi,

I'm in Durbanville Hills - have a nice view over parts of Bellville.
Very interested.

How are things coming along?

[MaD]

Hahahahaha, nice one guys, the more ppl that do this the better ;)
BTW for increasing range with USB adapters check out this link that RhinoDBN posted on IRC called 'The Poor Man's Wi-Fi':

http://www.usbwifi.orcon.net.nz/



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[Spamtheman]

It was mentioned in one of the other threads but that's basically what I'm doing. The site is a bit ****ty though so I'm going to do a step by step guide with pictures for each step. I'll also post a few handy links on where to get hold of the stuff. BTW does anyone know the best spot to get hold of Chinese cookware?

[armitage]

Don't tell me ure gonna be doing the chinese fryer thing?
Those things don't improve your signal that much, i'd rather stick to a professional omni or yagi than a fryer drainer.

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[Spamtheman]

Armitage, how much work have you done with wireless equipment? I have previously set up an 8.3 km connection with a 24 dB grid antenna connecting to a 180 degree flat panel. The reason I'm doing a connection in this fashion is that I need to get a signal 1.3 km as cheaply as possible, I thought a few people might also be interested in learning how.

[lewstherin]

spam, how are you planning on amplifying the signal of the USB adapters in order to get 1km+ links?
To my knowledge no USB adapters come with the ability to attach an external antenna...

The only thing I can think of doing is strapping the USB adapter to a high pole above one's roof, and then running a long USB cable down to the PC...even then you are stuck with the crappy builtin antenna of the USB adapter, so you couldn't hope for more than 200m coverage at best...

Could you clarify how you plan to use the USB adapters exactly?

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[Spamtheman]

Lews, read up a bit more about antenna. What I intend on doing is placing the usb adapter at the focal point of a parabolic dish, this focus's the signal dramatically. I've previously hit over 7km from a parabolic antenna to a flat panel neither of which was powered.

[freeek]

poe! power of ethernet!Spamtheman im gonna be emailing you in a month!

..- dot dot dash ;)

[lewstherin]

spam, i c what u mean now...interesting...
Of course there are issues with weather-proofing...but at least you dont have to stuff around getting lmr cabling and worrying about signal loss [:)]

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[Spamtheman]

Hmmm I got some fun toys yesterday at work, managed to find asus mini access points with 2 internal antennas that I'm gonna be ripping apart to see if you could connect a larger antenna. They're only 802.11b but these things are only going for something like R245 ex VAT!!!! And they can function as wireless bridges to extend the range of a signal, sweetness ( http://www.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-330/overview.htm ) these things are like the size of a packet of cigarettes.

Oh and Freeek, PoE stands for power over ethernet :P

[freeek]

"Oh and Freeek, PoE stands for power over ethernet :P"

OI i know that, was a typo!


..- dot dot dash ;)

[lee3d]

armitage,

We have multiple ap's up in Bellville. We looking for a bridge to down town bellville

lee3d

[armitage]

well lee3d i stay almost next to the n1 at bill bezuidenhout got a buddy that lives a little bit further down about a KM. tell me how much its gonna cost to get a connection to you guys and we can arrange something. also got a buddy at the sanlam building apartments but he's only on the fourth floor and his building sup gets a hernia everytime someone mentions going on the roof to put an antenna up. too bad though.

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[lee3d]

Spam where you at?

lee

[armitage]

lee3d how much would an access point setup cost of ure stuff?

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[lee3d]

Hey,
Firstly you will never get 54mpbs or 11mpbs. We cap it down. A access point will not give all 64 users 54mpbs. Thats a Dream. Wireless doesnt work like that. We use a microtik linux router that we paid for. It works the best for management. Clean aps doenst work if you start copying, some people will die of the network. Traffic has to be managed.

We use senao. The 200mw ones. Its your choice. We use aps in client mode for link up and dishes. It works easy and is easy to install.

You can buy your 0wn equipment. No problem.
You phone me you talk to me, we discuss. Every site has its own challenges and problems.

We have a once of join fee of R500. Thats to cover the cost of the High site that is 7k.

I wasted 5k on my first wireless equipment, 2 years back. Wireless is NOT easy.
Sufferd 2years to get here. Its really worth it.

Lee3d

[Cloud]

lee3d, what does this connection include? do u get internet access and what are ur views on p2p.

interested to hear bout this thing.

[lee3d]

Hey,

Thats only if you want to get connected. P2p is free. P2p is linked to your signal quality and strengh.

We not offering big internet at the moment. We dont like LYING to people about speeds.

We over 64k inet. Basically for internet browsing that is fast and Email @uitsiglan.co.za account. Downloads between 12:00 - 05:00 may burst to 16kb/s.

This R150 a month.

Thx

[Cloud]

so u guys are not the same as those other blokes who charge R400 a month and offer internet of between 4kbs and 60kbs then?

/me getting confused

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[mufasa]

I am looking to set something up in table view. needing info re: price best equip and if anyone is interested [:p]

[wizzaro]

Way to go Spam

I've been playing with the same stuff lately and is in table view and belivile we have a con to one of the isp rpoviing wong range wifi They charge an arm an leg for a quipment the wifi fry should do 5km easyly

in fact with the new enhanced version of the cantena you might be able to get 5km since it provides about 12dbi gain has to be proven though we currently have some build to test over 1KM range and then we will extend further.
where di you get 802.11g usb adapts for under 200 ??

I'm very interesed in your project and will star psting my finings when i get my Can tenas back

Regards
wizzardo

[John]

Negear is about to release gear based on the 802.11n standard.
800% distance and 600% bandwidth improvement.
See
www.theregister.co.uk for more info

[MaD]

Theres a new wireless initiative in the Durbanville area: www.nukecap.co.za


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[noir]

Ok, u ppl seem to be forgeting one very important think, its called spectrum, do u ppl even know how cluttered the air waves are, and if any one mentions an omni, i fill be forced to blow it up. I am involved in setting up wireless links and have spent loads of money on this aswell. I have a crap load of wireless routers in my cupboard and they dont work in this interferance. The scanner that i used indicates between 6-8 wi-fi nodes running on a range of channels, and though one has 13 channels, only 3 to 4 of them are usable due to cross-talk between the channels. Omni antennas add to the problem cause thay radiate their energy all over the show, thus ppl have poor signal and are forced to boost the signal with amplifiers, this just makes it worse, cause it narrows the beam, and just causes a whole lot of noise. So stick to directionals and sectors. I will be running some test soon just to check the signal levels and noise levels, cause the bellville area has alot of it.

If you Love it let it go, if it comes back then it love you. If not hunt it down and kill it

[armitage]

I can vouch for that im sitting in bellville connecting to tafelsig and everyday there's drop in signal cause of interference. especially on saturday's and sunday's seems to be like the weather.

[:D]

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[mufasa]

that is why we need them all to register on the nodedb.com site

more wireless than you can shake a stick at

[armitage]

Mufasa, that's not likely to hapen it seems. Been trying now for bout a year to get ppl to register their nodes on nodedb but so far only bout 5 new nodes went up and i know their out there.


Also there are a lot of wisps in cape town. and im figuring these guys themselves are doing a good job of making the air congested like it is.


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[noir]

ok. what good will registering a node do, if they are private. The problem is that some people are not using the correct setup and dont check to see if there are any free channels, If you plant ur self onto a channel where there are already 3 nodes operating then there are gonna be problems. Also there are atmospheric conditions one has to take into cinsideration, there are alot of non-wifi devices that can affect the 2.4ghz signal. We try ourselves not to cause problems with other wireless links, so we try to find the best channel that is far away enough from the other ones as not to cause and signal problems, but ppl who have no way to check where their are open channels and ppo who use wireless deviced which are not really suited to the tast at hand should not even try at all. Dont be cheap, the cheaper the wireless device the more likely that its wont do ie the usb wi-fi adapter ontop of a pole. Plan the link before, dont just do it and then deal with the problem, try to solve the problem before the link is setup ie see what the wireless devices can do, test them before hand, if the usb adapter is up to the tast then use it else DONT, ur just waisting ur money and time like that, Trust me i know.
Use directional antennas where possible, they are more efficient and dont radiate their energy all over the show ie the dreaded omni.

Its now 5:22am and i just finished playing eve-online so if there are any spelling mistakes i'm sorry, but hey that life.

If you Love it let it go, if it comes back then it love you. If not hunt it down and kill it

[armitage]

hehe, same here eve-online.

damn isp's should give out free eve-online accounts, just one month is nuff(a tester if u will) after that u don't have enough time to download stuff cause ure always playing eve[;)]

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[mufasa]

armitage: so of all the omi's in bell. only 17 nodes on the nodedb.com site in the whole of CT.

i have read about this doc that was being put together about how to setup a wifi link from scratch. any sign of this doc? I am sitting in table view and wanting to start a group for various reasons(gaming, filesharing, etc ...) please forward a copy to me, busy building and if there is enough interest should be up soon sharing a link to the internet. www.nodedb.com cape town node 22 mufasa

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[Nickste]

Yeah, also really wanting a setup guide. Am in the Newlands area, and have a bit of support.
Problem is, I know hardling anything about wireless ;-)

Chow, Nick

Nick Smit
broadband@nicksmit dot za dot net

[Spamtheman]

The whole point of my exercise is to set up a connection as cheaply as possible, what people do with it after that is not really my concern. I would suggest however that using 802.11b or g for backbone links is not the best idea I've ever heard, and quite honestly you'll never win arguing over the spectrums.

[mufasa]

http://wireless.gumph.org/articles/longrangelink.html

interesting reading on a long range link (5km)

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[mufasa]

another interesting link
http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article44-page1.php

2.4GHz Antenna Gain vs. Range Table

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[AcidRaZor]

thanks mooofaaaaSAAA

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[mufasa]

pleasure noooooooooone

some new nodes on www.nodedb.com in newlands, interested go have a look and register !!!!![:D][B)]

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[mufasa]

does any one use wireless online in table view? or know of some one that does. i am wanting to get them to come out and do there check but what are their speeds .... etc like in table view?[:p]

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[sauermfj]

do you want me to send you a video cd with inputs from CSIR, Poynting antennas and others on how to set up the node?
mail me your postal box addy (and email addy if you kinda trust me) to franss at softstart dot co dot za
can also supply equipment, boxed kit, power over ethernet ... the whole shebang with firmware also included ...

[mufasa]

I have been picking up three towers in tv ms10, ms11, ms13. Any idea who these blong 2

[bismay]

i'ev also picked up those towers today. ms-10 ; ms-11 and so on. Where do you stay? Someone please explane to me what is meant by a mesh? If i understand it right: pc's connnected over a distance via Wi-Fi cards forming their own network, and sharing internet and what else. Im in Table View. I have 10 Wi-Fi cards and will link up to anyone who want to add onto their mesh.

If someone needs Wi-Fi cards, contact me, I've still got another 10 which i will sel for R250 Dlink DWL-G250+ 54Mbps.

Cheers

[Razer0]

Thats correct bismay

[bismay]

nice...

[mufasa]

bismay where abouts in table view, interested in linking up

[freeek]

ms-10,ms-11....... is a wisp company called megaserv if im not mistaken. I pick up a wide range of ap's abt 8

[bismay]

two block away from bayside mufasa

[mufasa]

eish no line of sight, i am down towards gie rd ,off circle rd

[bismay]

NObody living near me that wanna shar some files and stuff over Wifi?? Come one ppl! SSID - Linksys

[fergus]

Whats happening in Goodwood. Particularly in the corner near Grand West.

[Sammo]

Hello. Anyone living in the city centre or near Gardens/Vredehoek/High Cape. I am very interesting in joining a mesh or helping setting a node up!

Alternatively, I have seen lots in these forums about setting up a cheap long range (<2Km) Wifi link, and anyone able to help me with a quick cost effective solution. My office is only 900m (straight line) from my flat, but not clear LOS, trees and buildings in the way. Any ideas if I can make this link work and tap into the office network. Already have permission from the office, just need to figure out how. Checked out www.miro.co.za extensively, but any advice would be great appreciated!

[Go†h_Li†e°²]

Hello. Anyone living in the city centre or near Gardens/Vredehoek/High Cape. I am very interesting in joining a mesh or helping setting a node up!

Alternatively, I have seen lots in these forums about setting up a cheap long range (<2Km) Wifi link, and anyone able to help me with a quick cost effective solution. My office is only 900m (straight line) from my flat, but not clear LOS, trees and buildings in the way. Any ideas if I can make this link work and tap into the office network. Already have permission from the office, just need to figure out how. Checked out www.miro.co.za extensively, but any advice would be great appreciated!

I live in Tamboerskloof near the CBD about 2km's away from my works wireless gateway ...having the same problem.Have you tried making a cantenna? could boost you to about 1km if you are lucky

[Sammo]

Haven't heard of that, will do some reading up. Be great if you have any good info a cantenna or if you have some experience having tried this out. I am in High Cape and I have the elevation, but no clear enough LOS.
Thanks

[KNiGHTc4]

Hi,

I stay in the Vredehoek/CBD area and have been wanting to setup a link for a while now.

contact me....

Thx

[musan]

any one in rosebank area ?

would love to start up a mesh any one in rosebank around the tugwell towers ?
alredy got my acess point up and running, saw some one else once but never again.

[mufasa]

i see the interest has died down in the cape, must be all the rain!

[eye_suc]

Well, in kraaifontein we are tricking the people into buying gear and joining. We still need details about all the other people out there, but it seems impossible to manage since almost nobody registers on nodedb.

Maybe we can get some fresh input from the people who already posted in this thread?

(who went to the may/june OC?)

[bobdihi]

Anybody in Goodwood ( Cape Town ) area to connect with???

[eye_suc]

Guys, i got word from Daywalker that most of the people in the general Cape Town area is connected to a WUG formed by UniTerm's high sites. Its a pay service costing R400, but I am not sure if everybody has to pay this, of if its a combined cost.

In my opinion, this is wrong, as it is defeating the whole idea of having a FREE network. Is there NO other way of doing this? How are the guys in JHB doing it? Come on, we need to do it right!

[musan]

hasnt here, i just turn it on and off to my wim since no one else uses it.

[eye_suc]

So you dont have to pay R400 a month to use their infrastructure?

[GiveMeSpeed]

Hi
I am in Durbanville near Stones. Interested in joining any wireless network in my area. I will share my adsl with others for a small charge.

[bismay]

hi,

What is your SSID?

[GiveMeSpeed]

SSID?

I do not have wireless yet, but will get an AP if there is someone in my area.

[bismay]

damn, i'm in Table view

[bismay]

Is there someone interested in hooking up with my AP?

[eye_suc]

have you had a look at nodedb? there are a few AP's there. MaD is also up and running in Table View (i think).

Unfortunately, not many people frequent these forums. Try a search for everybody in Table View and them PM them. Might be worth a shot

[Netless]

I will share my adsl with others for a small charge.

I live in Durbanville near stones. I would be interested in doing something like this. Send me a pm if you are still interested.

[Hunted]

Hi Guys, I'm Connected to SSID: ms-14 , which is Megaserve's tower. So, the other ones should be theirs too.

Cheers

Edit ***

Sorry, I replied to a post that was aswered already. Happens when you think you are on the last page :o

[bismay]

yes and megaserve> :mad:

[slimothy]

haha way to cement a cape town stereotype us JHB people have about you guys, all this talk about mesh nets and fish hooks, hilarious

[bonn]

could somone please give me more information regarding the arials i would so much like to put one up in durban

[mufasa]

could somone please give me more information regarding the arials i would so much like to put one up in durban

you should have a read through this forum if you are based in Durbs
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?p=230180&highlight=durban+mesh#post230180

[bonn]

i want to put up a wifi mesh
so where do i go

[bonn]

any assitance regardin wifi meshs would be nice

[daffy]

bonn
go visit www.jawug.za.net
tons of info there for setting up wifi stuff.

[Stolla]

Is there a Belville mesh yet ???? I live near the spar @ oude westhof

[Bitcaze]

Anyone to join near Cape Gate?

[Bitcaze]

Sorry, my e-mail address is eugene@bitcraze.co.za.

Mail me.

[Nike789]

HI All

How does this work, I am in Melkbosstrand.
Please explain
TIA

[siding]

I appreciate the value in having a discussion on the aspects and suggest visit roofing philadelphia (http://northeastunion.com)

[mufasa]

I appreciate the value in having a discussion on the aspects and suggest visit roofing philadelphia (http://northeastunion.com)

am i the only one that thinks this is really off the topic? Roofing?

[Pox]

I'm moving to Tygerhof (behind Milnerton) in a coupla weeks time. Anyone have news on wifi in that area?
Be so kind as to let me know :)

[daevor]

hi all

I'm in gordon's bay (fairview golf estate). definitely interested in connecting to a mesh. Don't have the expertise, though (... waiting on the doc spam promised! hehe).
Anyone know what it it'll cost to buy a small space on the mountains (in Gordon's Bay) to use as a high site?

willing to fork out R2500~ on equipment to get things started, and willing to contribute to high site land if necessary.

perhaps we should, as suggested earlier in the thread, get together at mugg&bean or something 1 Sat/Sun...? Anyone interested?

[freeek]

hmmmm they are many,new one im picking up is
UDCB 00026F31094C 1 72% 802.11b

[musan]

just though i would add that my access point is now fully functional, any one around please concatct me

[mufasa]

just though i would add that my access point is now fully functional, any one around please concatct me

how about a location in cape town eg goodwood, cbd, so that ppl know where to be looking or a ssid. :D

[Eben]

i live in goodwood and would like to join in on a mesh, got a senao ap and grid on my roof - anybody interested?

[mufasa]

i live in goodwood and would like to join in on a mesh, got a senao ap and grid on my roof - anybody interested?

give us some ssid's you can see !!

[armitage]

Hey there.
Been about a year since i started this thread....quite interesting to see that it's still alive.

If anyone wants to connect to my little ap. the ssid is EvilNode. (I've got the first node on nodedb for cape quite proud of that :) and it's finally active )

Anyways. from where i am currently there was last night about 3 ap's i saw out there.

SSID's i be seeing:

gk
multiadmin
Multibroker

If anyone who uses these ap's can pm me to join you guys it would be sweet.
I've got basically los from the sanlam head office over bellville and probably if i wanted to i could have it showing to lower bellville east but i don't know if there is any nodes there at the moment.

So......contact me if you want to connect to me or i can connect to you guys :)

[Eben]

okay here goes:

Adrian's Router
G02B
G02A
ms-10
ms-11
ms-12
ms-13
ms-14
WINX
ANC
ms-11
mufasa
ATS
Office
matrix
Totius
SE3
ecc
NETGEAR
G03B
musthome
april2
PLATSPAR
mu-01
DNA
webzone
netcontacts
42-hs-wave02
UCTN
TOWN
TygerKil
SMC-RJ
Snake
DISACAP
Comtron!x
101
GROUND
AP1C4C17
Cafe Cameleon

Ish, and that's going the whole 360

[bismay]

So Eben where do you live?

[mufasa]

okay here goes:

Adrian's Router
G02B
G02A
ms-10
ms-11
ms-12
ms-13
ms-14
WINX
ANC
ms-11
mufasa
ATS
Office
matrix
Totius
SE3
ecc
NETGEAR
G03B
musthome
april2
PLATSPAR
mu-01
DNA
webzone
netcontacts
42-hs-wave02
UCTN
TOWN
TygerKil
SMC-RJ
Snake
DISACAP
Comtron!x
101
GROUND
AP1C4C17
Cafe Cameleon

Ish, and that's going the whole 360
Mufasa
thats me, where are you eben

can we have this threat stickyfied

[armitage]

K ....... how do u connect to the other peeps ap's though :/

I actually want to contact the owner's of these ap's but unfortunately don't know how to get hold of em.

[mufasa]

K ....... how do u connect to the other peeps ap's though :/

I actually want to contact the owner's of these ap's but unfortunately don't know how to get hold of em.

well you hope they read it here or they have registered on the nodedb site.
http://www.nodedb.com/africa/za/cape_town/?

Please if you have any interest in joining or setting up wireless meshes/networks with other please register on the nodedb site (it is free to register) so we can contact each other. If you have problems ploting gps co-ord, ask. easy ways to do it. Send me a private message if you have any questions. :D

Please mods can we have this thread made sticky? more reads and posts than the other mesh/networks :rolleyes:

[Eben]

I stay in goodwood west and have access points in goodwood & plattekloof if you stay in goodwood then surely you must have seen me before i usually fly around in goodwood in a red Audi with smoked mags, chasing wifi signals.

Got a nice -64 signal over a 14km link.

PS: i did register at nodedb about a year ago but can't recall what happened after that.

Got tons of goodies to share.

[mufasa]

I stay in goodwood west and have access points in goodwood & plattekloof if you stay in goodwood then surely you must have seen me before i usually fly around in goodwood in a red Audi with smoked mags, chasing wifi signals.

Got a nice -64 signal over a 14km link.

PS: i did register at nodedb about a year ago but can't recall what happened after that.

Got tons of goodies to share.
what did you use to do those scans. what hardware and software. you picked up my ap and i am in table view:eek: !!

List of AP's I see
WINX
ms-10
default
Test
SE2
G02A

[Eben]

i can pick up your ap "mufasa" with my ap in plattekloof jumping between -79 and -83 dbm - straight forward setup - Celeron 600 pc running mikrotik with a Senao SL2511ext2 100mw (actually 200mw) 802.11b pcmcia card with a 10.5dbi 120 degree VP sector - excellent combo with huge coverage and then a Atheros a/b/g 5213AR mini-PCI with a 18dbi flatpanel that is connecting me to my home in goodwood. I've been running it for about a year, mostly to built up some knowledge. All this is fitted ontop of a roof of some guy i know that i supply internet for - a matter of good will. So..... that's quite amazing picking up a ap in Tableview with a 10.5dbi antenna - just goes to show that all these WISP's with their huge gain antennas and amps got some homework to do - overkill is not a good option when it comes to wifi.

[mufasa]

so why not try and hook up then? are you interested? could have a link from table view to goodwood running. whats your ssid? have you hidden it?

[Eben]

okay, i just left home but disabled the security and shared some stuff, still need to sort out the rest (don't want all the people to see me and my babes.......) you can use any ip between 192.168.128.100 to 200, subnet 255.255.255.0 ssid = webzone. Will go and give the antenna a slight adjustment tomorrow morning - try to get a low -70 or at least a stable something don't like it when the signal jumps. Have fun and keep me up to date - in case you'd like to know anything i just pm'ed you my cell nr. ENJOY!!

[Eben]

o yes, the server's ip is 192.168.128.9

[freeek]

here is a list of some of the things I C

freaky 00304F29F5B2 6 72% 802.11b
ms-11 00026F20980C 8 68% 802.11b
ms-10 00026F2097DA 11 67% 802.11b
r00terHeights 000272041C78 1 67% 802.11b
ms-12 000B6B347C5F 2 67% 802.11b
WINX 000B6B3319B3 4 67% 802.11b
ATS 000B6B331CF0 8 70% 802.11b
ms-13 000B6B342B19 11 67% 802.11b
SE3 000B6B35E79C 3 67% 802.11b

[cyberbob]

I'm in the Plumstead/Wynberg area ... anything happening around here?

I'm interested in joining a mesh (or even starting one????) don't know much about it though!

Got loads of stuff to share :D

[mufasa]

okay, i just left home but disabled the security and shared some stuff, still need to sort out the rest (don't want all the people to see me and my babes.......) you can use any ip between 192.168.128.100 to 200, subnet 255.255.255.0 ssid = webzone. Will go and give the antenna a slight adjustment tomorrow morning - try to get a low -70 or at least a stable something don't like it when the signal jumps. Have fun and keep me up to date - in case you'd like to know anything i just pm'ed you my cell nr. ENJOY!!

sorry but i can't see you. only these popup if i push up my ap power


WINX 00:0B:6B:36:03:FE 6 -86 -94 100 1057 0 4(b)
ms-11 00:02:6F:20:98:0C 8 -81 -90 100 1 0 4(b)
PLATSPAR 02:02:8A:45:C9:C2 8 -89 -90 100 18 0 4(b)
SE1 00:0B:6B:35:8F:70 9 -94 -90 100 1 0 4(b)
G02A 00:0B:6B:35:E7:EB 10 -83 -92 100 1 0 4(b)
ms-10 00:02:6F:20:97:DA 11 -81 -89 100 1 0 4(b)
default 00:50:18:1B:29:7E 11 -86 -89 90 1 0 4(b)
netcontacts 00:0B:6B:35:3A:E2 13 -83 -86 100 1 0 4(b)
SE2 00:02:6F:38:B1:69 5 -81 -90 100 1 0 4(b)
G02A 00:0B:6B:35:E6:90 5 -92 -87 100 1 0 4(b)

[Charlie_SA]

I have a few friends who would like to mesh in the Rosebank area. We are all close to UCT's campus, around Tugwell. I am however clueless about what I need. Have a laptop which I will use to connect. Anyone wanna join in/ help out?

[mufasa]

I have a few friends who would like to mesh in the Rosebank area. We are all close to UCT's campus, around Tugwell. I am however clueless about what I need. Have a laptop which I will use to connect. Anyone wanna join in/ help out?

i would recommend you have a look on the www.nodedb.com site. i can see a couple of nodes around that area, have a look
http://www.nodedb.com/africa/za/cape_town/?

you can only contact other ppl on that site after you register and it is free. ppl always like the sound of free :D

[daevor]

Help!

I've created my node location on NodeDB (though I don't have a real node, just very interested! :D ), but the lat/lon seems a bit wrong - it's placed me on top of the mountain :eek: and, really, I'm not.
I used the street maps at http://new.mweb.co.za/general/streetmap.jsp to get the co-ord.

[daevor]

Oh, and my offer still stands to invest some money to get a mesh going in Gordon's Bay / Strand area ;) .
Just don't have the technical expertise, though. :o

[Eben]

my ap is right next to "PLATSPAR" (Plattekloof SPAR) - sh*t, i'm using the extra channels that i bought with my mikrotik license - will change the setup over the weekend - i'm currently on channel 2494.

[mufasa]

Help!

I've created my node location on NodeDB (though I don't have a real node, just very interested! :D ), but the lat/lon seems a bit wrong - it's placed me on top of the mountain :eek: and, really, I'm not.
I used the street maps at http://new.mweb.co.za/general/streetmap.jsp to get the co-ord.

to plot your correct lat/long do the following. sure i have typed this before but here goes again.;)

1. http://66.18.65.122/Zonelocator/ can plot your location on the sentech(they are good for something) coverage page. now hold your mouse over your location on the map. in the bottom left on the window, just above the start button in the status bar (normally shows "Done" or "errors on page"), it will have your lat/long listed write them down.

2. enter your new lat/long in the nodedb info.

T
G

[AmonRe]

to plot your correct lat/long do the following. sure i have typed this before but here goes again.;)

1. http://66.18.65.122/Zonelocator/ can plot your location on the sentech(they are good for something) coverage page. now hold your mouse over your location on the map. in the bottom left on the window, just above the start button in the status bar (normally shows "Done" or "errors on page"), it will have your lat/long listed write them down.

2. enter your new lat/long in the nodedb info.

T
G

Cant use that unless u register will sentech wich they recquire ure id number!!!:eek:

[mufasa]

Cant use that unless u register will sentech wich they recquire ure id number!!!:eek:

use fake details and a hotmail address that you have, it does not check your id number just keep it to the same length with valid date at the beginning. note that intructions to get gps co-ords only work in ms IE not firefox

[daevor]

According to Sentech, my house, and the street I live in doesn't exist yet :confused: The cluster I live in is 4yrs old.

I guess I live in the bush then :rolleyes:

[daysleeper]

Daveor, what sort of equipment to you have if any?

I think you may be a little low, so you'll have to get one of them long masts.

Height is the crucial thing!

All the AP is nodedb are these commercial things. Everybody sets up these highsites to sell internet. I have internet, I just want to share files at high speed.

[mufasa]

new ap's popping up now. anyone here?


default 00:50:18:1B:29:7E 11 -83 -89 90 1 0 4(b)
blaauwberg 00:40:96:39:72:20 13 -89 -87 100 1 0 4(b)
Test 56:C2:F1:29:62:43 14 -92 -90 100 34 0 4(b)
telkom 00:02:2D:8F:59:F4 6 -92 -94 100 1 0 4(b)

telkom AP ? right nice honeypot or something.

[daevor]

daysleeper

got no equipment yet. Don't have enuf knowledge to know what to buy. dont wanna spend money on something i can't use/ is not powerful enuf / is way too powerful.

waiting for some local interest/activity and expertise.

D

[skydog]

Mufasa - do you guys in CT have a website for CT wireless user group/community?

[mufasa]

Mufasa - do you guys in CT have a website for CT wireless user group/community?

not as yet. you know like cape town people are bit slow to the game. :D

so far testing this weekend was not as successful as hoped. had a link running from plattekloof(eben) to table view(me) but not stable, must get a bigger stronger more direct ant for link. must find some ppl to join in to make it interesting.:cool:

[mufasa]

building in progress. watch this space.:D

[skydog]

mufasa - keep up the good work. someone has to lead. unfortunately most people like to follow/be lazy. looking forward to seeing it.

[blue_screen]

Hey guys,
I would like to setup a mesh in my area, what would we need?
How much would it all cost and what distance would it cover?
we about 12 guys all within 4km from each other.

Please help.

Thanks

[mufasa]

Hey guys,
I would like to setup a mesh in my area, what would we need?
How much would it all cost and what distance would it cover?
we about 12 guys all within 4km from each other.

Please help.

Thanks

Which area are you in?

1. LOS (line of sight) Do you all have LOS to each other or to a central point you have access to. You might get away with poor LOS but then you might spend all that money and it does not work.

2. Common hardware, just to keep it simple. The jawug guys have had a lot of success with the linksys wrt54g routers. I have one myself and would recommend them. They are not that expensive. You might need different antenna for the different members but 4km is not that far. Stick to directional antenna, 12dbi yagi, 14dbi patch are very nice. Keep the antenna cables as short as possible. You loose signal over a long cable. Look at building or buying a POE (power over ethernet) kit, so that you can get the AP closer to the antenna so that the antenna cables stay short.

[blue_screen]

Ah thanks,

when you say line of site, you mean no big buildings in the way? no trees.. and so on?Or if i can see thier house ?
I would be the center, three of the guys houses i can basically see from my roof.
We in the Southern Subs. ( Heathfield, grassypark, bergvliet..)
There is a Saal(hall) between myslef and two fo the guys , will this make a diffrence?

thanks
M

[skydog]

blue_screen - yes a hill will make a difference.

you need clear LOS for best results. I have seen some magic before but to keep it simple have clear LOS eg. you stand where you going to put your antenna and the other person stands where they are going to put their antenna and you must be able to see each other clearly.

less of a distance less of a problem with LOS.
and i say again. for best results you must be able to see the antenna you pointing at.
Hope you get the idea.

and i would agree with Mufasa..
/me goes to look how you do this rate the post thing.

[musan]

i am in the same area, you may see my node from time to time adroa.
do you get internet in those towers ?

[daysleeper]

Musan listen quick! I'm using one of those poe setups, the only problem is that net stumbler and so forth don't work. I think they are meant for like a laptop pcmicia sort of setup. Or that whole centrino wireless thing.

Do you guys know of any way to scan for ssid hidden and not hidden and discover networks with a poe setup (poe as in power of ethernet)

The whole idea is not to hack the planet, only to find people for a mesh.

because these folks don't read this forum and i don't want to advertise in papers about a mesh because it attracts that unwanted type of attention if you get my drift.

[Eben]

Musan listen quick! I'm using one of those poe setups, the only problem is that net stumbler and so forth don't work. I think they are meant for like a laptop pcmicia sort of setup. Or that whole centrino wireless thing.

Do you guys know of any way to scan for ssid hidden and not hidden and discover networks with a poe setup (poe as in power of ethernet)

The whole idea is not to hack the planet, only to find people for a mesh.

because these folks don't read this forum and i don't want to advertise in papers about a mesh because it attracts that unwanted type of attention if you get my drift.

Do you perhaps know the make of the equipment that are attached to your poe setup and if you can access your poe setup from your pc?

[Summoner]

Any networks running in Brackenfell or anyone interested in setting one up?

[allann]

hi i am on the border of between brackenfell and bellville
i have an ap that i could setup with a flat mount antenna
let me know if you want to connect , play games ect"

[Summoner]

Setting my AP up over this weekend. Hopefully all goes well. :D

[Pox]

Any meshes in or around Milnerton?

[mufasa]

Any meshes in or around Milnerton?
where in milnerton? just need to give a location near a landmark.

[mufasa]

the www.ctwug.za.net site is up, i am trying to create a page listing all the wifi suppliers found in the cape town area. please pm me with details re: suppliers.;)

[freeek]

how about including all the SSID's that are going to be linked

[mufasa]

how about including all the SSID's that are going to be linked

As members register we will be able to build up a list of ssid's and locations and plan possible links, but all in the planning stages. Just needed a central point for the ctwug users to get together.

[Cylos]

.

[freeek]

is it free to connect to? Cylos?

[XCalibre]

What's your ID?

[bismay]

Xcalibre watter SSID soek jy nou?

[musan]

hey,

sorry cant help i just use a laptop for war driveing

[Mantis]

Anyone want to start a wifi mesh close to UCT & musan? Rosebank Main Road area

[musan]

baker ?

[FxpForce]

I'm in Oakdale, Bellville, next to Bill Bezuidenhout Str. This all sounds interesting.....wonder how it will work???

[Mantis]

i wanna set up too but am saving up for the equip at the moment (students without jobs don't have much spare cash). I'll be using my laptop as an access point in the meantime.

I am in the Rosebank - Rondebosch area. Anyone have suggestions?

[DjStyles]

I'll bee keen on getting something like this started (complete noob at it though), I'm in the plumstead area. I also have a buddy in Kenilworth that will be keen.

[g15m0]

I'll bee keen on getting something like this started (complete noob at it though), I'm in the plumstead area. I also have a buddy in Kenilworth that will be keen.

My buddies and I have been planning to set up a WLAN in the Plumstead area for some time. I already have a NetGear AP, just waiting for antenna's.
If you're close to Plumstead or Wittebome stations, you may well be able to hook up to our network. (PM me for more info)

NB: We are not doing this for internet access! Most of us have ADSL already.

* this also doesn't mean that we won't share internet at a later stage

[brixton tower]

Anyone know of a mesh in the Green Point area?

[Ekhaatvensters]

Hey g15m0 and whoever else is keen on starting that Plumbstead WLAN. I used to live in that area and still have friends there that would be interested in this, one lives quite close to Wittebome station, in Stella road at the end close to Wittebome. If you would like to get this started or have already done so please PM me and i can get two or three more people to join you guys.

Also if anyone in Bergvliet is looking for a similar mesh, i could help, I alreay have a Netgear AP built into my router if that helps.

[musan]

my ap is now fully operational, you can find me near rosebank train station on main road side, my node name is adroa. If any one is intrested in substained net access please contact me.

[Piesang]

Anyone has a AP I can connect to in Brackenfell, Morgenster area?

Only from 21:00 till midnight and some weekends.;)

[Kryon_MC]

I am in newlands/rondebosch by the cricket stadium. I already have an antenna set up on my roof from a previous internet contract. Point me in the right direction please?

[musan]

point it toward tugwel towers pls

[mufasa]

*UPDATE*

We have a couple of highsites up, covering plattekloof,milnerton,tablview and n1 city area. have a look for them!!!

*UPDATE*

[drowssap]

Well the antenna design I'm looking into produces about 18 Db is circular with a diameter of 30 odd centimeter. Given that we're doing a point to point link with one of these antennas on both ends gives a combined signal strength of 30+ Db, should be good for up to 11km. When I said a cost of R1000, that would be for both sides of the link, so R500 per person. If you had an access point with an omni others could connect to that for around R500. Although I may be trying this with 802.11g if I can find reasonably priced equipment that is also FreeBSD friendly for other reasons.

If someone can organise hosting I'll actually document (with photo's) the whole assembly and installation

I know this is old ... but if you are still looking, i can assist ... wanting to do a wireless thing in kuils river

[freeek]

if anyone can see AP : "freaky" let me know

[bundy]

Hi, we are building a network of Wi-fi hotspots on lower campus UCT using Skyrove. If anyone is keen to join the movement of unwiring lower campus please let me know...

[bundy]

One more thing! It seems that there is a Linksys WRT54GL drought in the country at the moment. Does anyone have a second cousin importing grey material in. We are flashing the puppies so it doesnt matter if the warranty is voided. Thanks!

[daffy]

The local linksys suppliers have said their stock is arriving tommorow!
Get hold of Uniterm Direct in Durbanville for more info.. www.uniterm-direct.co.za

[bundy]

Check out this dokuwiki to turn a LinksysWRT54GL into a hotspot gateway. Need to flash the router first!

http://www.skyrove.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start&do=register

[bundy]

The URL is http://dokuwiki.skyrove.com/doku.php?do=show&id=wiki%3Aflashing_the_router
The other link has a sign up process involved.

[Lunchbox]

Hi Guys

I am living quite high up on the mountain next to Kirstenbosch Gardens and am keen to link up with anyone in the area. If I stand on my roof, I have LOS for miles.

Ideally I want to link up with a mate in Constantia but I need to somehow bounce my signal off someone in Plumbstead to get round the mountain. I would also like to link up with people near the Rondebosch Common/UCT area.

Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

[Fieldy]

Hi Guys.
Please don't shoot me down, I am a wifi n00b unfortunately. I have just purchased a adsl router with access point built in. I would like to join up with a wifi mesh. I live in goodwood, near N1 City. I have not yet purchased an outdoor antennae, I would appreciate if someone could provide me with some advice or a link to a site explaining the whole process. And perhaps the ideal products/prices. my msn is mjwinder@hotmail.com if you are interested in helping.

I have got lots to share, and possibly free entry to carnage.LAN whoever helps me :D

Regards
Fieldy

[Stolla]

the best place to get info is http://www.ctwug.za.net for capetown wireless group or http://www.jawug.za.net also have tons of info, for antenna go to http://www.miro.co.za, i think a 12dbi yagi will do the job for you. also if you have a linksys router flash the firmware with http://www.dd-wrt.com will help you alot. you can also chat on irc.jawug.za.net #ctwug #wnet.

Stolla

[headstrong]

Howzit!!

I live in milnerton and i was thinking of getting my own WAN going, and sharing an internet connection! If i can one an existing WAN then that would be cool as this will reduce noise!

Please email me if u interested jpw.ctn@hotmail.com

Thanks

[mufasa]

Howzit!!

I live in milnerton and i was thinking of getting my own WAN going, and sharing an internet connection! If i can one an existing WAN then that would be cool as this will reduce noise!

Please email me if u interested jpw.ctn@hotmail.com

Thanks

we have milnerton covered, come have a chat with us in irc irc://irc.jawug.za.net #ctwug

[chrisinjeddah]

Moving back to SA (Brackenfell) and was curious about wifi-ing around Brackenfell. Does SA have hotspots like Starbucks yet? Or are these just ordinary folks connecting like a giant wirefree lan party? Can one join in with just a wifi laptop or do you need NASA grade equiptment? :rolleyes:

[Mantis]

I still don't see anything in the UCT/Rosebank area. So many students here but no one seems interested. Unless I'm in the dark or am not picking up anyone's signals.

[JAmBer]

I can't believe that with so many students in the area, rondebosch/newlands/rosebank/obs is still not covered. MIT's roofnet seems like such a good idea. It would be great to have a similar system running here. i'm keen to get involved, unfortunately, the trees limit my LOS connectivity. we need a high site - like UCT upper campus!

If such a system is legal (and from what I can tell under the new legislation, if it's used for non-profit purposes, then it is) then I see no reason why UCT shouldn't allow a repeater to be set up on one of the taller building's roofs. Such a repeater could cover a huge portion of the city.

I'm not sure how we'd propose the whole idea. Our SRC hasn't been cast in the best light lately so i'm not sure that's the correct route. ...and it would prob'ly take an age to approve!

[squirrel]

Anyone interested in the Constantia/Meadowridge area? Around Ladies Mile..

[Lunchbox]

It is true that there is an access point on top of Tugwell... What's it called?

[Mantis]

It is true that there is an access point on top of Tugwell... What's it called?

Actually there are lots on UCT's campus. I contacted one of their ICTS guys and he said that they actually rent out space to other companies to install highsites on the buildings on campus. Their are lots of antennas on the Tugwell and Marquard roofs as well as on the PD Hahn building.

I already asked about being able to connect to UCT's wireless from off campus as I live just across the road from Tugwell but he didn't respond. Where abouts are you Lunchbox? PM me. Got about 3 or 4 people interested within about 150m of me.

EDIT: I just had a brilliant idea. I've got a couple of friends in Tugwell (1oth or 11th floor). I could get them to put a repeater or ap in their room at the window (which faces Main Road and everything else from there). PM me with email addie if you interested. Will reply asap.

[Lunchbox]

Clearly there are quite a few people in and around the UCT and Tugwell/Rosebank/Newlands area who are keen to connect. I will chat to Mantis about putting a plan together to set something up on Tugwell. In the meantime, if there is anyone else in the immediate area with LOS to Tugwell and who is keen to link up let us know. Mufasa, I know you frequent this form, it not possible to link up to CTWUG from the top of Tugwell. Where is the nearest node? Come guys, lets get this thing going!!!

[headstrong]

How do i join irc://irc.jawug.za.net #ctwug??

Do i need to connect to a specific server or what?

Thanks

[Stolla]

yes download mirc chat

[squirrel]

How do i join irc://irc.jawug.za.net #ctwug??

Do i need to connect to a specific server or what?

Thanks

Click here (http://www.wug.za.net/cgi-bin/irc.cgi). When you are connected just change the channel

[headstrong]

Shot squirell! took me a while 2 join but i got there in the end!

mufasa,

Were is the highsite in milnerton?

[MailMan]

Clarification please

Im in Paarl, heard about "meshing" , frankly speaking i have no clue what are

features and benefits, i have the dsl384 package , so pay to Telkom and to my ISP , i have a satelitte dish (commercial tv) and started recently to realise
that there are tons of things like FTP and that is all chinese to me.

When pc's are connected what are the practical consequences, advantages ?

Do is still pay both Telkom and my ISP ?

What bothers me is "commercial / non commercial" as the way i see it is i want broadband for hdtv / wireless, video on demand / phone and that would mean i need more than 3 gig per month , and radio in surround quality
i heard the other day, quite nice.

As you see, lots of questions , any place where i can get the full story ?

Thanks,


Peter

[Mantis]

Hey Mailman. I'm in Paarl about 20 - 30% of the time. Where about are you?

[tsp]

I am interested in seting up a home wireless network need help with equipment and setup software live in Grassy park

[DjStyles]

Okay, finally finished my move to the new house. Managed to get my PC setup again yesterday evening. Now... how do I go about connecting to the mesh, I'm in the Ottery area?

Please help, as I am very keen to try this out.

[Stolla]

The best is go to http://www.ctwug.za.net or chat on irc.jawug.za.net #ctwug

Stolla

[wiki]

Okay, finally finished my move to the new house. Managed to get my PC setup again yesterday evening. Now... how do I go about connecting to the mesh, I'm in the Ottery area?

Please help, as I am very keen to try this out.



Do u have any wireless equipment yet?

[DjStyles]

Do u have any wireless equipment yet?

Hey wiki,

All I have at the moment is my normal kit I have been using all along. A Netgear D834GT Router. Can Someone point me in the right direction, as all this is greek to me.

regards,

[Eben]

u will need a wireless bridge that's capable of running power over ethernet cause it needs to be mounted on top of ur roof with an external antenna - mikrotik router or wrt with a 13dbi patch antenna or yagi should do fine considering u have line of sight to on of our highsites like plattekloof hills, blaauberg, tamboerskloof ect.

[who.is.michael]

If someone can organise hosting I'll actually document (with photo's) the whole assembly and installation[/QUOTE]

site see.za.net available....

[Mantis]

ok heres my situation. I can connect to the net through someones elses wireless ap (with his permission of course), and dial up using pppoe to the internet. My connection to him usually says "limited connection" but sometimes says connected but I have to use pppoe to access the net. the signal is really low (sometimes says "no signal").

I wanted to buy a WRT54G (R350 on CTWUG) but wanted to know whether or not I'd be able to use it to connect to the net (doesn't matter if only via pppoe). All I want is better reception, not being cut off all the time, and faster file sharing between us (and anyone else who wants to). Any help would be much appreciated. (please note: I'm not a n00b, but I'm not that clued up either)

[Eben]

hope i understand u correct:

it seems u would like to know if it is possible to buy an wrt and then connect to the internet through it using pppoe - if so, the wrt is not modem and u still need an internet source or from an dsl modem or from wireless device that's connected to the internet

[Mantis]

no, the wrt will connect to another ap which has internet.

[Eben]

then the wrt will def help boost ur signal and there is firmware u can use to do ur pppoe

[Piglit]

heya Guys. Im in Parow North. I dont mind linking up from here. Lemme know if u guys can lend a hand.

[Mantis]

picking up peers in Rosebank area which allow me to connect but not to browse network on net

SSID= Free Open WiFi
Free Wireless Internet

[sevenworth]

I'm at the top of edgemead, as it rolls up tygerberg hill. also, i work in one of the tallest buildings in Maitland.

Ideas?

[mufasa]

I'm at the top of edgemead, as it rolls up tygerberg hill. also, i work in one of the tallest buildings in Maitland.

Ideas?

you are right under one of the highsites....

[sevenworth]

you are right under one of the highsites....

edgemead or maitland?

preferrably, i'd like to connect in edgemead. i might have line of sight to plattekloof centre/panorama clinic/technicon.

what ssid should i be looking out for?

[WildPikachu]

I'm in Capricorn Beach Muizenberg and have a 2nd story floor facing Capricorn Park direction (that high white mast is very visible).

I have more than enough wireless equipment including high gain antenna's, routerboard 532's ... etc.

Problem is after Telkom told me I cannot get ADSL here "sorry sir, your exchange is incompatible" ..... I would like some sort of permanent connection via wireless for business purposes (ie. not p2p), got no problem in being involved with a mesh or pointing more antenna's in other directions.

Tried to join CTWUG but get an error on signup:
Fatal error: mime_magic could not be initialized, magic file /usr/share/file/magic.mime is not available in /home/ctwug/www/e107_handlers/mail.php on line 110

Any highsite close where I can connect and blanket this area with a 180 degree omni and get net access?

[mufasa]

Tried to join CTWUG but get an error on signup:
Fatal error: mime_magic could not be initialized, magic file /usr/share/file/magic.mime is not available in /home/ctwug/www/e107_handlers/mail.php on line 110



working on fixing that

Edit: Fixed

[Piesang]

How's the WUG doing in Cape Town.

I live in Brackenfell. Is there anyway I can connect to a WUG in that area only using my Notebook and a Linksys WRT54G Router without buying other antennas?;)

[DjStyles]

is www.ctwug.za.net down? cant seem to access the site

[Mantis]

might be. can't access it either:eek:

[Kloon]

Hey piesang, the bot hill tower is up, they are in the process of connecting it to the wug. Where about in Brackenfell you? I have an AP in ferndale are but im using it for inet at the moment.

[sevenworth]

i'd like to connect in edgemead. i might have line of sight to plattekloof centre/panorama clinic/technicon.

what ssid should i be looking out for?

[Kloon]

Any ssid with ctwug in it. Join ctwug on irc (irc.jawug.za.net) #ctwug and they will help you or go to www.ctwug.za.net

[acidrain]

Soon to be in the bergvliet area and would really like to connect to the CTWUG. Also have some keen contributors in Lakeside, Kirstenhof, Observatory and also possibly Newlands.

Any Ideas?

[mufasa]

soon a link into Muizenberg is going up, linking to another group in the Grassy Park area. From there we can get to the rest of the suburbs on that side (hopefully).

[acidrain]

soon a link into Muizenberg is going up, linking to another group in the Grassy Park area. From there we can get to the rest of the suburbs on that side (hopefully).

Sounds like you have things mapped out but for now any idea where the nearest ctwug node is? Saw the GE.jpg file but cant really interpret it.

[mufasa]

Sounds like you have things mapped out but for now any idea where the nearest ctwug node is? Saw the GE.jpg file but cant really interpret it.

there is a small group in grassy park area, down the road from you.

[acidrain]

Thanks mufasa... hope to see you on the other end of the frequency soon ;)

[Mantis]

Okay, so I moved back to Paarl. Anyone around here, up and running or interested in starting something? I don't think theres any chance of connecting to anyone on the GE.jpg map I've seen lmao

[Lennytiger]

I still don't see anything in the UCT/Rosebank area. So many students here but no one seems interested. Unless I'm in the dark or am not picking up anyone's signals.

Am in Mowbray/Rosebank area, 500m away from UCT.

But can't see any AP's.

[Kloon]

Hooray, CTWUG-BOT is up. Situated on botlarey hill to connect the northern suburbs.

[Defiler]

Hey,

I am looking to join or start a wireless mesh within the Capri Village, Noordhoek, Sun Valley area as I have a few friends that are in LOS and would just like to lan. Also another bonus is that I am positioned in Capri Village next to Black Hill and look down onto the surrounding areas. I would still need to purchase equipment but work at a computer shop so that will be easy.

Noticed these instructions on how to build a directional antenna with 22db of gain using a satellite dish.
http://www.wwc.edu/frohro/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html

Anyone know how effective a Dstv dish might be with that setup or a wireless usb dongle withing the can?

thx

[Ekhaatvensters]

Soon to be in the bergvliet area and would really like to connect to the CTWUG. Also have some keen contributors in Lakeside, Kirstenhof, Observatory and also possibly Newlands.

Any Ideas?

Hey I'm in Bergvliet... also moved from Plumstead :)

I haven't found anything close enough to here though..

[wiki]

Hey,

I am looking to join or start a wireless mesh within the Capri Village, Noordhoek, Sun Valley area as I have a few friends that are in LOS and would just like to lan. Also another bonus is that I am positioned in Capri Village next to Black Hill and look down onto the surrounding areas. I would still need to purchase equipment but work at a computer shop so that will be easy.

Noticed these instructions on how to build a directional antenna with 22db of gain using a satellite dish.
http://www.wwc.edu/frohro/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html

Anyone know how effective a Dstv dish might be with that setup or a wireless usb dongle withing the can?

thx

I was using a dstv dish (for +- 2 Years) with a homebrew 5.8 feed which gave me 45mbps over a 8km link but the link has been replaced with a sector.
The alignment was a bitch though, it had a hectic small beamwidth.

[Kloon]

Haven't been action here in ages. Thought id just let people know that the wug is growing nicely, adding new users almost very week now.

[Kloon]

Okay, so i wanna know who would be interested in a highsite in the brackenfell area? Please specify your area so i can get numbers. I know there is already the botlary higsite but i wanna setup something closer.

[Piesang]

Okay, so i wanna know who would be interested in a highsite in the brackenfell area? Please specify your area so i can get numbers. I know there is already the botlary higsite but i wanna setup something closer.

I am in Morgenster area and need a Internet connection there. I have a Laptop and a Linksys WRT54 Wireless Router. What else do I need?

[LinkIT]

Hi. I am from the Karoo, and here as everyone knows are nothing, so the only way we can link is wireless, have allot of experience in long range (line of sight) of 30km, and 9km with ease. have done allot of these, will be glad to assist if needed, also uses miro's equipment, the acconet unit (build in router) can cover about 8km easy.
Other interference also plays a role (like other wireless)

[Kloon]

Hi. I am from the Karoo, and here as everyone knows are nothing, so the only way we can link is wireless, have allot of experience in long range (line of sight) of 30km, and 9km with ease. have done allot of these, will be glad to assist if needed, also uses miro's equipment, the acconet unit (build in router) can cover about 8km easy.
Other interference also plays a role (like other wireless)

LinkIT, thanks for the offer but we have a few links running already, some of our clients connect from ranges of 9 - 15km away from highsite.

[Kloon]

I am in Morgenster area and need a Internet connection there. I have a Laptop and a Linksys WRT54 Wireless Router. What else do I need?

Piesang, your free to join the us, but we dont offer internet. We are not a wisp, we are a wireless community.