blunomore
10-05-2009, 02:31 PM
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View Full Version : Announcement of new cabinet
ToxicBunny
10-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Nope....
I spose in my case, its meaningless because they're all useless anyway.
I spose in my case, its meaningless because they're all useless anyway.
ld13
10-05-2009, 02:53 PM
It's on the Radio now. RSG in my case. I dunno who the minister of Telecommunications is ... never heard that name in my life or I just misheard it. Well, never heard any of those names in my life in any case. :o
Heck this dude is t a l k i n g s o s l o w l y...
Heck this dude is t a l k i n g s o s l o w l y...
ToxicBunny
10-05-2009, 03:00 PM
Pravin?... isn't that the oke from SARS?
Gooku
10-05-2009, 03:01 PM
Workaholic technocrats in government will do much good for this country.
A workaholic cabinet is what we need.
A workaholic cabinet is what we need.
alf101
10-05-2009, 03:02 PM
Wonder if Kortbroek will get another jobbie.
Menace
10-05-2009, 03:06 PM
Siphwe Nyanda is the new comm minister. No idea who he is though. Hogan is taking Alec's old job as enterprise minister
alf101
10-05-2009, 03:08 PM
It's on news24
ToxicBunny
10-05-2009, 03:08 PM
Great.. if its who I think it is then its another useless prat who has fsck all clue about technology...
http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/Pages/profilefull.aspx?IndID=2281
http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/Pages/profilefull.aspx?IndID=2281
ToxicBunny
10-05-2009, 03:10 PM
The department of housing will be called department of human settlement. The following appointments were announced:
I like that... sounds like they're preparing to change the focus of the department if you ask me...
I like that... sounds like they're preparing to change the focus of the department if you ask me...
alf101
10-05-2009, 03:12 PM
President Zuma announced several changes to current government departments, the creation of new structures within the presidency.
A national planning commission (NPC) will be set up, which will be based in the presidency, the NPC will be responsible for strategic planning to which all spheres of government will adhere.
There will also be a monitoring and evaluation and administration department in the presidency.
The department of mineral and energy will be split into two departments, as will be the department of education.
The department of housing will be called department of human settlement. The following appointments were announced:
Minister of defence: Lililwe Sisulu
Minister of finance: Pravin Gordon
Deputy president: Kgalema Motlanthe
Minister of higher education and training - Blade Nzimande
Minister of home affairs - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma
Minister of human settlement - Tokyo Sexwale
More details to follow.
Tokyo Sexwale can probably afford to buy a few 1000 houses for people.
A national planning commission (NPC) will be set up, which will be based in the presidency, the NPC will be responsible for strategic planning to which all spheres of government will adhere.
There will also be a monitoring and evaluation and administration department in the presidency.
The department of mineral and energy will be split into two departments, as will be the department of education.
The department of housing will be called department of human settlement. The following appointments were announced:
Minister of defence: Lililwe Sisulu
Minister of finance: Pravin Gordon
Deputy president: Kgalema Motlanthe
Minister of higher education and training - Blade Nzimande
Minister of home affairs - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma
Minister of human settlement - Tokyo Sexwale
More details to follow.
Tokyo Sexwale can probably afford to buy a few 1000 houses for people.
alf101
10-05-2009, 03:17 PM
Just when u thought Home affairs could not get worse:
Minister of home affairs - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma
Minister of home affairs - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma
ToxicBunny
10-05-2009, 03:18 PM
and Blade in charge of Higher education and training?... that basically means our varsities are going to be more fscked than they currently are already.
cybershark
10-05-2009, 03:21 PM
and Blade in charge of Higher education and training?... that basically means our varsities are going to be more fscked than they currently are already.
Indeed :(
Indeed :(
moklet
10-05-2009, 03:24 PM
Don't be so pessimistic about the new choices, lets first see how they perform and based on that complain. @ least give them a change
alf101
10-05-2009, 03:25 PM
and Blade in charge of Higher education and training?... that basically means our varsities are going to be more fscked than they currently are already.
He's writtin a few books on violence in education according to that who's who site.
Maybe he'll bring back Jacks.
He's writtin a few books on violence in education according to that who's who site.
Maybe he'll bring back Jacks.
native
10-05-2009, 03:32 PM
Now i wish to get a list of the DG, not sure if they are still appointed by by the President
Minister of defence: Lililwe Sisulu [ Why did they move her from intelligence in the first place ]
Minister of finance: Pravin Gordon [ I think it was a good choice - he did well at SARS ]
Deputy president: Kgalema Motlanthe [ I still need to know what happened to his business interest ]
Minister of higher education and training - Blade Nzimande [ i believe he is a workaholic and taking it from what he has being saying since he became the secretary general of SACP, I think he has an academic doctorate ]
Minister of home affairs - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma [ I think she will make some effective changes and with her experience in gauvament things can only get better if they dont change the DG]
Minister of human settlement - Tokyo Sexwale [I just wonder who will win those tenders to build houses ]
Minister of defence: Lililwe Sisulu [ Why did they move her from intelligence in the first place ]
Minister of finance: Pravin Gordon [ I think it was a good choice - he did well at SARS ]
Deputy president: Kgalema Motlanthe [ I still need to know what happened to his business interest ]
Minister of higher education and training - Blade Nzimande [ i believe he is a workaholic and taking it from what he has being saying since he became the secretary general of SACP, I think he has an academic doctorate ]
Minister of home affairs - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma [ I think she will make some effective changes and with her experience in gauvament things can only get better if they dont change the DG]
Minister of human settlement - Tokyo Sexwale [I just wonder who will win those tenders to build houses ]
marine1
10-05-2009, 03:42 PM
Safety and Security?
native
10-05-2009, 03:49 PM
See my replies in red.
Red more about Kgalema and the land Bank loan with pamodzi (http://sarocks.co.za/2008/09/23/who-is-kgalema-motlanthe/)
With regards to Blade - I still think he will make a difference on Higher education, as secretary general of SACP he didn't report to anyone.
Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma as minister of health she sucked including the Sarafina fiasco, but she made head ways as minister of foreign affairs.
Red more about Kgalema and the land Bank loan with pamodzi (http://sarocks.co.za/2008/09/23/who-is-kgalema-motlanthe/)
With regards to Blade - I still think he will make a difference on Higher education, as secretary general of SACP he didn't report to anyone.
Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma as minister of health she sucked including the Sarafina fiasco, but she made head ways as minister of foreign affairs.
native
10-05-2009, 03:52 PM
I came across this list when goggling the minister of communication (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphiwe_Nyanda)
Tina Joemat-Peterson (Agriculture, forestry, and fisheries)
• Lulu Xingwana (Arts and culture)
• Angie Motshekga (Basic education)
• Siphiwe Nyanda (Communications)
• Sicelo Shiceka (Cooperative governance and traditional affairs)
• Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula (Correctional services)
• Lindiwe Sisulu (Defence and military veterans)
• Ebrahim Patel (Economic development
• Dipuo Peters (Energy)
• Pravin Gordhan (Finance)
• Aaron Motsoaledi (Health)
• Blade Nzimande (Higher education and training)
• Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma (Home affairs)
• Tokyo Sexwale (Human settlements)
• Maite Nkoana-Mashabane (International relations and cooperation)
• Jeff Radebe (Justice and constitutional development)
• Membathisi Mdladlana (Labour)
• Susan Shabangu (Mining)
• Nathi Mthethwa (Police)
• Barbara Hogan (Public enterprises)
• Richard Baloyi (Public service and administration)
• Geoff Doidge (Public works)
• Gugile Nkwinti (Rural development and land reform)
• Naledi Pandor (Science and technology)
• Edna Molewa (Social development)
• Makhenkesi Stofile (Sport and recreation)
• Siyabonga Cwele (State security)
• Trevor Manuel (The presidency, national planning commission)
• Collins Chabane (The presidency, performance monitoring and evaluation as well as administration in the presidency
• Marthinus van Schalkwyk (Tourism)
• Rob Davies (Trade and industry)
• Sbusiso Joel Ndebele (Transport)
• Buyelwa Sonjica (Water and environmental affairs)
• Noluthando Mayende-Sibiya (Women, youth, children, and people with disabilities)
Tina Joemat-Peterson (Agriculture, forestry, and fisheries)
• Lulu Xingwana (Arts and culture)
• Angie Motshekga (Basic education)
• Siphiwe Nyanda (Communications)
• Sicelo Shiceka (Cooperative governance and traditional affairs)
• Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula (Correctional services)
• Lindiwe Sisulu (Defence and military veterans)
• Ebrahim Patel (Economic development
• Dipuo Peters (Energy)
• Pravin Gordhan (Finance)
• Aaron Motsoaledi (Health)
• Blade Nzimande (Higher education and training)
• Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma (Home affairs)
• Tokyo Sexwale (Human settlements)
• Maite Nkoana-Mashabane (International relations and cooperation)
• Jeff Radebe (Justice and constitutional development)
• Membathisi Mdladlana (Labour)
• Susan Shabangu (Mining)
• Nathi Mthethwa (Police)
• Barbara Hogan (Public enterprises)
• Richard Baloyi (Public service and administration)
• Geoff Doidge (Public works)
• Gugile Nkwinti (Rural development and land reform)
• Naledi Pandor (Science and technology)
• Edna Molewa (Social development)
• Makhenkesi Stofile (Sport and recreation)
• Siyabonga Cwele (State security)
• Trevor Manuel (The presidency, national planning commission)
• Collins Chabane (The presidency, performance monitoring and evaluation as well as administration in the presidency
• Marthinus van Schalkwyk (Tourism)
• Rob Davies (Trade and industry)
• Sbusiso Joel Ndebele (Transport)
• Buyelwa Sonjica (Water and environmental affairs)
• Noluthando Mayende-Sibiya (Women, youth, children, and people with disabilities)
R13...
10-05-2009, 03:53 PM
Min of health = Aaron Motsoaledi = FAIL!
native
10-05-2009, 04:00 PM
I am not fighting with you (of course not!:D) but what achievements did Ms Zuma reach as Minister of FO?
LOL - getting a seat at the security council, which I must admit we never used it our best.
dont remind me of Zim, Mymar/Bhurma, Dalai Lama
LOL - getting a seat at the security council, which I must admit we never used it our best.
dont remind me of Zim, Mymar/Bhurma, Dalai Lama
native
10-05-2009, 04:03 PM
Min of health = Aaron Motsoaledi = FAIL!
Never heard of him, maybe I must start visiting Luthuli house :D
Never heard of him, maybe I must start visiting Luthuli house :D
R13...
10-05-2009, 04:06 PM
State security? Sounds like we getting the security police of old. Maybe the prez needs someone to handle shower removals?
Chris
10-05-2009, 04:06 PM
How the hell can a former MK soldier be head of Communications? He'll have no idea whatsoever.
And the Commies love being Head of Education. Then they can brainwash the masses into voting for them time and time again.
And the Commies love being Head of Education. Then they can brainwash the masses into voting for them time and time again.
milomak
10-05-2009, 04:20 PM
Min of health = Aaron Motsoaledi = FAIL!
based on what?
based on what?
ads
10-05-2009, 04:22 PM
I wonder if the script got jumbled. It's almost as if the names were drawn out of a hat and matched to arbitrary portfolios.
If you think of the skills and expertise of Tokyo Sexwale and Barbara Hogan, it seems just a little short-sighted to use them for building houses and sorting out Eskom. Roy Padayachie is now going to manage civil servants. Paul Mashatile, who ran the finances of Gauteng for years, is now going to look after ballet. Kortbroek is going to look after tourists only, when he was really only good at environmental affairs. And finally, Pieter Mulder has revealed his true colours and joined the dark side, albeit in Agriculture - isn't that just a little patronising? The only really good fit I can see is Naledi Pandor and Derek Hanekom in Science and Technology.
Pravin Gordhan is not bad for Finance, but what company would move the guy who's been really successful in maximising revenue into managing spending? As for appointing Trevor Manuel as Big Brother (OK, Little Brother, since JZ is Big Brother), it's also probably fine, but are we sure we're ready for 1984-style government? All that's really making international news is that the Minister of Finance has changed. However, one commentator is already describing Manuel's role as equivalent to "Prime Minister", which can't be all bad.
And what's wrong with Military Communications and Communist Education and Training?
"Military communications is a field of military activities, tactics and equipment dealing with communications. First of all, military communications are battlefield (combat) communications, including intercommunication with a higher command or country's government."
"Communist propaganda is defined as a scientifically-based system of the dissemination of the communist (Marxist-Leninist) ideology with the purpose of education, training and organizing of the masses."
(Quotations from Wikipedia)
Here's the full list: http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71619?oid=128222&sn=Detail
If you think of the skills and expertise of Tokyo Sexwale and Barbara Hogan, it seems just a little short-sighted to use them for building houses and sorting out Eskom. Roy Padayachie is now going to manage civil servants. Paul Mashatile, who ran the finances of Gauteng for years, is now going to look after ballet. Kortbroek is going to look after tourists only, when he was really only good at environmental affairs. And finally, Pieter Mulder has revealed his true colours and joined the dark side, albeit in Agriculture - isn't that just a little patronising? The only really good fit I can see is Naledi Pandor and Derek Hanekom in Science and Technology.
Pravin Gordhan is not bad for Finance, but what company would move the guy who's been really successful in maximising revenue into managing spending? As for appointing Trevor Manuel as Big Brother (OK, Little Brother, since JZ is Big Brother), it's also probably fine, but are we sure we're ready for 1984-style government? All that's really making international news is that the Minister of Finance has changed. However, one commentator is already describing Manuel's role as equivalent to "Prime Minister", which can't be all bad.
And what's wrong with Military Communications and Communist Education and Training?
"Military communications is a field of military activities, tactics and equipment dealing with communications. First of all, military communications are battlefield (combat) communications, including intercommunication with a higher command or country's government."
"Communist propaganda is defined as a scientifically-based system of the dissemination of the communist (Marxist-Leninist) ideology with the purpose of education, training and organizing of the masses."
(Quotations from Wikipedia)
Here's the full list: http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71619?oid=128222&sn=Detail
ToxicBunny
10-05-2009, 04:26 PM
This whole issue of Minister of Communications is one thing, he'll either do well or screw it up just as badly as Ivy.....
Whats worrying me more though it Blade having anything to do with Tertiary education. Its already shakey at best, and academics need to exist in an environment where they can be outspoken about things and not worry about unneccesary censure etcetc....
Something that is VERY important for me is that Tertiary education is a priviledge, not a right, and I have a feeling that Blade will make it almost a right and they'll have to drop standards even further to make sure they meet the quote of number of passed students given that the level of intelligence of the average student will drop even further.
Anyone up for starting a private university with me? :p
Whats worrying me more though it Blade having anything to do with Tertiary education. Its already shakey at best, and academics need to exist in an environment where they can be outspoken about things and not worry about unneccesary censure etcetc....
Something that is VERY important for me is that Tertiary education is a priviledge, not a right, and I have a feeling that Blade will make it almost a right and they'll have to drop standards even further to make sure they meet the quote of number of passed students given that the level of intelligence of the average student will drop even further.
Anyone up for starting a private university with me? :p
SlyFly
10-05-2009, 04:48 PM
Pretoria - The following is the full Cabinet as announced by President Jacob Zuma on Sunday.
The Deputy President of the Republic of South Africa - Kgalema Petros Motlanthe.
1. Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Tina Joemat-Pettersson.
Deputy Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Dr Pieter Mulder.
2. Minister of Arts and Culture Lulu Xingwana.
Deputy Minister of Arts and Culture Paul Mashatile.
3. Minister of Basic Education Angie Motshekga.
Deputy Minister of Basic Education Enver Surty
4. Minister of Communications Siphiwe Nyanda.
Deputy Minister of Communications Dina Pule
5. Minister of Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs Sicelo Shiceka.
Deputy Minister of Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs Yunus Carrim.
6. Minister of Correctional Services Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula.
Deputy Minister of Correctional Services Hlengiwe Mkhize.
7. Minister of Defence and Military Veterans Lindiwe Sisulu.
Deputy Minister of Defence and Military Veterans Thabang Makwetla.
8. Minister of Economic Development Ebrahim Patel.
Deputy Minister of Economic Development Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde.
9. Minister of Energy Dipuo Peters.
10. Minister of Finance Pravin Gordhan.
Deputy Minister of Finance Nhlanhla Nene.
11. Minister of Health Dr Aaron Motsoaledi.
Deputy Minister of Health Dr Molefi Sefularo.
12. Minister of Higher Education and Training Dr Blade Nzimande.
13. Minister of Home Affairs Dr Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma.
Deputy Minister of Home Affairs Malusi Gigaba.
14. Minister of Human Settlements Tokyo Sexwale.
Deputy Minister of Human Settlements Zou Kota.
15. Minister of International Relations and Co-operation Maite Nkoana-Mashabane.
Deputy Minister of International Relations and Co-operation (1) Ebrahim Ismail Ebrahim.
Deputy Minister of International Relations and Co-operation (2) Sue van der Merwe.
16. Minister of Justice and Constitutional Development Jeff Radebe.
Deputy Minister of Justice and Constitutional Development Andries Nel.
17. Minister of Labour Membathisi Mdladlana.
18. Minister of Mining Susan Shabangu.
19. Minister of Police Nathi Mthethwa.
Deputy Minister of Police Fikile Mbalula.
20. Minister of Public Enterprises Barbara Hogan.
Deputy Minister of Public Enterprises Enoch Godongwana.
21. Minister for the Public Service and Administration Richard Baloyi.
Deputy Minister for the Public Service and Administration Roy Padayachie.
22. Minister of Public Works Geoff Doidge.
Deputy Minister of Public Works Hendrietta Bogopane-Zulu.
23. Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform Gugile Nkwinti.
Deputy Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform Dr Joe Phaahla.
24. Minister of Science and Technology Naledi Pandor.
Deputy Minister of Science and Technology Derek Hanekom.
25. Minister of Social Development Edna Molewa.
Deputy Minister of Social Development Bathabile Dlamini.
26. Minister of Sport and Recreation Makhenkesi Stofile.
Deputy Minister of Sport and Recreation Gert Oosthuizen.
27. Minister of State Security Siyabonga Cwele.
28. Minister in The Presidency (1) National Planning Commission Trevor Manuel.
29. Minister in The Presidency (2) Performance Monitoring and Evaluation as well as Administration in the Presidency Collins Chabane.
30. Minister of Tourism Marthinus van Schalkwyk.
Deputy Minister of Tourism Thozile Xasa.
31. Minister of Trade and Industry Rob Davies.
Deputy Minister of Trade and Industry (1) Thandi Tobias.
Deputy Minister of Trade and Industry (2) Maria Ntuli.
32. Minister of Transport Sbusiso Joel Ndebele.
Deputy Minister of Transport Jeremy Cronin.
33. Minister of Water and Environmental Affairs Buyelwa Sonjica.
Deputy Minister of Water and Environmental Affairs Rejoice Mabhudafhasi.
34. Minister of Women, Youth, Children and People with Disabilities Noluthando Mayende-Sibiya.
From: http://www.news24.com/News24/Elections/News/0,,2-2478-2479_2514142,00.html
The Deputy President of the Republic of South Africa - Kgalema Petros Motlanthe.
1. Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Tina Joemat-Pettersson.
Deputy Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Dr Pieter Mulder.
2. Minister of Arts and Culture Lulu Xingwana.
Deputy Minister of Arts and Culture Paul Mashatile.
3. Minister of Basic Education Angie Motshekga.
Deputy Minister of Basic Education Enver Surty
4. Minister of Communications Siphiwe Nyanda.
Deputy Minister of Communications Dina Pule
5. Minister of Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs Sicelo Shiceka.
Deputy Minister of Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs Yunus Carrim.
6. Minister of Correctional Services Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula.
Deputy Minister of Correctional Services Hlengiwe Mkhize.
7. Minister of Defence and Military Veterans Lindiwe Sisulu.
Deputy Minister of Defence and Military Veterans Thabang Makwetla.
8. Minister of Economic Development Ebrahim Patel.
Deputy Minister of Economic Development Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde.
9. Minister of Energy Dipuo Peters.
10. Minister of Finance Pravin Gordhan.
Deputy Minister of Finance Nhlanhla Nene.
11. Minister of Health Dr Aaron Motsoaledi.
Deputy Minister of Health Dr Molefi Sefularo.
12. Minister of Higher Education and Training Dr Blade Nzimande.
13. Minister of Home Affairs Dr Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma.
Deputy Minister of Home Affairs Malusi Gigaba.
14. Minister of Human Settlements Tokyo Sexwale.
Deputy Minister of Human Settlements Zou Kota.
15. Minister of International Relations and Co-operation Maite Nkoana-Mashabane.
Deputy Minister of International Relations and Co-operation (1) Ebrahim Ismail Ebrahim.
Deputy Minister of International Relations and Co-operation (2) Sue van der Merwe.
16. Minister of Justice and Constitutional Development Jeff Radebe.
Deputy Minister of Justice and Constitutional Development Andries Nel.
17. Minister of Labour Membathisi Mdladlana.
18. Minister of Mining Susan Shabangu.
19. Minister of Police Nathi Mthethwa.
Deputy Minister of Police Fikile Mbalula.
20. Minister of Public Enterprises Barbara Hogan.
Deputy Minister of Public Enterprises Enoch Godongwana.
21. Minister for the Public Service and Administration Richard Baloyi.
Deputy Minister for the Public Service and Administration Roy Padayachie.
22. Minister of Public Works Geoff Doidge.
Deputy Minister of Public Works Hendrietta Bogopane-Zulu.
23. Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform Gugile Nkwinti.
Deputy Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform Dr Joe Phaahla.
24. Minister of Science and Technology Naledi Pandor.
Deputy Minister of Science and Technology Derek Hanekom.
25. Minister of Social Development Edna Molewa.
Deputy Minister of Social Development Bathabile Dlamini.
26. Minister of Sport and Recreation Makhenkesi Stofile.
Deputy Minister of Sport and Recreation Gert Oosthuizen.
27. Minister of State Security Siyabonga Cwele.
28. Minister in The Presidency (1) National Planning Commission Trevor Manuel.
29. Minister in The Presidency (2) Performance Monitoring and Evaluation as well as Administration in the Presidency Collins Chabane.
30. Minister of Tourism Marthinus van Schalkwyk.
Deputy Minister of Tourism Thozile Xasa.
31. Minister of Trade and Industry Rob Davies.
Deputy Minister of Trade and Industry (1) Thandi Tobias.
Deputy Minister of Trade and Industry (2) Maria Ntuli.
32. Minister of Transport Sbusiso Joel Ndebele.
Deputy Minister of Transport Jeremy Cronin.
33. Minister of Water and Environmental Affairs Buyelwa Sonjica.
Deputy Minister of Water and Environmental Affairs Rejoice Mabhudafhasi.
34. Minister of Women, Youth, Children and People with Disabilities Noluthando Mayende-Sibiya.
From: http://www.news24.com/News24/Elections/News/0,,2-2478-2479_2514142,00.html
SlyFly
10-05-2009, 04:50 PM
Check: http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/Pages/profilefull.aspx?IndID=2281
At the bottom you can contact the Minister of Communication directly ;)
At the bottom you can contact the Minister of Communication directly ;)
milomak
10-05-2009, 04:52 PM
actually tertiary education should be a right first and foremost. in that if you have the ability you are able to access it.
that being said, it does not mean that standards should drop. the two are mutually exclusive.
that being said, it does not mean that standards should drop. the two are mutually exclusive.
ads
10-05-2009, 05:16 PM
Anyone up for starting a private university with me? :p
Universities are established by statute, but are not run by the State like schools. Each is run by an independent Council, and the only real co-ordination between them is through Higher Education South Africa, a non-government body consisiting of all the principals / vice chancellors.
I think Comrade Blade is going to find that he's not really up to taking on the might of the universities. Universities have survived all kinds of governments all over the world for a thousand years or more. By comparison, communism was a brief fashion in the last century that's now past.
Universities are established by statute, but are not run by the State like schools. Each is run by an independent Council, and the only real co-ordination between them is through Higher Education South Africa, a non-government body consisiting of all the principals / vice chancellors.
I think Comrade Blade is going to find that he's not really up to taking on the might of the universities. Universities have survived all kinds of governments all over the world for a thousand years or more. By comparison, communism was a brief fashion in the last century that's now past.
JustAsk
10-05-2009, 05:20 PM
actually tertiary education should be a right first and foremost. in that if you have the ability you are able to access it.
that being said, it does not mean that standards should drop. the two are mutually exclusive.
Agreed,it should NOT be a privilege.
that being said, it does not mean that standards should drop. the two are mutually exclusive.
Agreed,it should NOT be a privilege.
Serqet
10-05-2009, 05:29 PM
tokyo sexwale in housing? well that should be interesting.
NameOfBeast
10-05-2009, 05:35 PM
10. Minister of Finance Pravin Gordhan.
Deputy Minister of Finance Nhlanhla Nene.
Nene is the chap whose chair famously broke under the weight of his humongous bottom (see here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJbpNlzk6qQ)).
Deputy Minister of Finance Nhlanhla Nene.
Nene is the chap whose chair famously broke under the weight of his humongous bottom (see here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJbpNlzk6qQ)).
milomak
10-05-2009, 05:44 PM
tokyo sexwale in housing? well that should be interesting.
he'll probably award the same house to two families :(
he'll probably award the same house to two families :(
milomak
10-05-2009, 05:54 PM
Why?
You clearly missed my insinuation at how he handled The Apprentice South Africa where he was unable to make a clear decision about the winner.
EDIT: It would be interesting to see how both have faired under his wing.
You clearly missed my insinuation at how he handled The Apprentice South Africa where he was unable to make a clear decision about the winner.
EDIT: It would be interesting to see how both have faired under his wing.
alf101
10-05-2009, 06:29 PM
Just saw this.
'Mrs Fix-it' ready for task
10/05/2009 17:50
Pretoria - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma will fit "like a hand in a glove" into her new portfolio as Home Affairs Minister, her spokesperson Ronnie Mamoepa said on Sunday.
Mamoepa was reacting to President Jacob Zuma's new Cabinet announcement that shifted Dlamini-Zuma from the Foreign Affairs Ministry to Home Affairs.
"She [Dlamini-Zuma] is perceived as Mrs Fix-it of government.
"First she was sent to health to sort out the two major battles involving the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries," he said. Today South Africa is punching way above its weight.
"Home Affairs needs fixing and now they need Mrs Fix-it again.
"As far as the minister [Dlamini-Zuma] is concerned, she has been part of Home Affairs before and she will fit in like hand in glove," Mamoepa said.
President Zuma appointed Maite Nkoana-Mashabane as the new Minister of International Relations and Co-operation, the ministry's new name.
fcking ROFL :D:D:D
'Mrs Fix-it' ready for task
10/05/2009 17:50
Pretoria - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma will fit "like a hand in a glove" into her new portfolio as Home Affairs Minister, her spokesperson Ronnie Mamoepa said on Sunday.
Mamoepa was reacting to President Jacob Zuma's new Cabinet announcement that shifted Dlamini-Zuma from the Foreign Affairs Ministry to Home Affairs.
"She [Dlamini-Zuma] is perceived as Mrs Fix-it of government.
"First she was sent to health to sort out the two major battles involving the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries," he said. Today South Africa is punching way above its weight.
"Home Affairs needs fixing and now they need Mrs Fix-it again.
"As far as the minister [Dlamini-Zuma] is concerned, she has been part of Home Affairs before and she will fit in like hand in glove," Mamoepa said.
President Zuma appointed Maite Nkoana-Mashabane as the new Minister of International Relations and Co-operation, the ministry's new name.
fcking ROFL :D:D:D
daveza
10-05-2009, 06:32 PM
Not sure why they moved Hogan - she seemed ideally suited to Health.
But she'll be an improvement over Irwin at Eskom.
But she'll be an improvement over Irwin at Eskom.
daveza
10-05-2009, 06:35 PM
Pieter Mulder is a surprise, especially after the FF+'s challenge re the overseas voters and Winnie.
phoneJunky
10-05-2009, 06:38 PM
Kyk ***us
Hmm filter - focus with freek
Hmm filter - focus with freek
hashbrown99
10-05-2009, 06:48 PM
Just when u thought Home affairs could not get worse:
Minister of home affairs - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma
Yip. Beetroot colored, garlic scented passports anyone?
Minister of home affairs - Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma
Yip. Beetroot colored, garlic scented passports anyone?
milomak
10-05-2009, 06:51 PM
Yip. Beetroot colored, garlic scented passports anyone?
did she promote those type of remedies for HIV/AIDS or is it a case of a health minister is a health minister?
did she promote those type of remedies for HIV/AIDS or is it a case of a health minister is a health minister?
hashbrown99
10-05-2009, 06:52 PM
did she promote those type of remedies for HIV/AIDS or is it a case of a health minister is a health minister?
What I meant to say is it could have been worse; it could have been Manto:o. She (Dlamini-Zuma) didn't exactly do a wonderful job as health minister either
What I meant to say is it could have been worse; it could have been Manto:o. She (Dlamini-Zuma) didn't exactly do a wonderful job as health minister either
sox63
10-05-2009, 06:52 PM
Pieter Mulder is a surprise, especially after the FF+'s challenge re the overseas voters and Winnie.
I think its an interesting decision. He should come in handy in his position in repairing the relationship between goverment and the Agriculture sector. And knowing him, he wont kiss the bums of the ANC, so the farmers interests will be well looked after.
Will have to keep an eye on that one.
I think its an interesting decision. He should come in handy in his position in repairing the relationship between goverment and the Agriculture sector. And knowing him, he wont kiss the bums of the ANC, so the farmers interests will be well looked after.
Will have to keep an eye on that one.
ToxicBunny
10-05-2009, 06:54 PM
Ok I probably misrepresented what I meant...
Tertiary education should be available to all, no question... but you have to be capable... just because you're previously disadvantaged does not mean you should gain entry and pass regardless.. if you're stupid you're stupid and must go away....
As for Universities being run by an independent Council... I think you'll find a large number of upper echelon university "employees" are government lackeys, so what Blade wants, Blade will get.
Tertiary education should be available to all, no question... but you have to be capable... just because you're previously disadvantaged does not mean you should gain entry and pass regardless.. if you're stupid you're stupid and must go away....
As for Universities being run by an independent Council... I think you'll find a large number of upper echelon university "employees" are government lackeys, so what Blade wants, Blade will get.
alf101
10-05-2009, 07:16 PM
What I meant to say is it could have been worse; it could have been Manto:o. She (Dlamini-Zuma) didn't exactly do a wonderful job as health minister either
She focussed on anti smoking laws, whilst ignoring maintenance on state hospitals, training of medical staff (induced an exodus of them overseas), started the community service program for healthcare workers, ignored AIDS...
She focussed on anti smoking laws, whilst ignoring maintenance on state hospitals, training of medical staff (induced an exodus of them overseas), started the community service program for healthcare workers, ignored AIDS...
milomak
10-05-2009, 07:29 PM
She focussed on anti smoking laws, whilst ignoring maintenance on state hospitals, training of medical staff (induced an exodus of them overseas), started the community service program for healthcare workers, ignored AIDS...
i have heard that HIV/AIDS policy was something Mbeki controlled. She apparently opposed Mbeki on his stance hence why she was moved out and the more subservient Manto put in her place. But I would not be able to prove what I have heard.
i have heard that HIV/AIDS policy was something Mbeki controlled. She apparently opposed Mbeki on his stance hence why she was moved out and the more subservient Manto put in her place. But I would not be able to prove what I have heard.
alf101
11-05-2009, 10:41 AM
I am fascinated - or is it horrified? - by the fact that the regular weekday posters have NO opinions on the new cabinet ... ??
Individual threads are popping up for each minister
Individual threads are popping up for each minister