Windows 7 X64

[marine1]

Ok dont know if it just me but my freaking hell is this fast on the internet :eek:
I have at least double my speed on browsing.

WTF???
Is that even possible? Just installed, using standard settings but seriously my speed on the net, just browsing is lightning fast

[sand_man]

What browser you using? IE8?

[Grouter]

Ah, so you found the hidden turbo / NOS switch too?

[marine1]

Yes 8.07
Also on Chrome just tried it :):)

Amazing

[gregmcc]

Yeah - I'm well impressed with it. Also running Chrome. And it flies on my new i7-920! :D

[marine1]

Damn you Greg :D:D

[marine1]

Jeeeez man even accessing my other drives :eek: WTF - So far this is truly amazing.

[sand_man]

Been using Windows 7 32-bit and Chrome and it's very sweet. Had 64-bit on my lappie and it was giving issues so took it off..

I'm not totally sold on the 64-bit version of Windows 7 but I may have been missing a driver or 2, didn't find there to be any noticeable difference in performance compared with the 32-bit. Perhaps the added burden on the laptops resources negated the performance advantage...

[cerebus]

Yep it's a gem.

[adamr]

yes it flies ... internet browsing ... (initially)

[marine1]

Initially? Really does it slow down?

[Keeper]

Jeeeez man even accessing my other drives :eek: WTF - So far this is truly amazing.

not with you on this one.... :(

[marine1]

Ok, on my old system, Vista 64, it took some time to open up one of the other drives in the machine.
Not a lot of time but when opening a 1TB drive there was some delay.
Now there is nothing

[killadoob]

Ya well keep your running 2gb memory dude, even with xp 2gb is sometimes a bit small :).

Go take 500 bucks and buy another 2/4gb memory.

[marine1]

huh? I have 4 gigs DDR3 1066

[Keeper]

Ya well keep your running 2gb memory dude, even with xp 2gb is sometimes a bit small :).

Go take 500 bucks and buy another 2/4gb memory.

ya ya I will soon.
didn't you mention you are running 2GB RAM in another thread though? :erm:

[killadoob]

Nope said 64 bit windows runs fine on 2gb, obviously having massive amount of movies etc or heavy work stuff would require more.

[marine1]

ahhh

[Keeper]

I don't see how having large folders depends that much on ram ?

win7 uses about 1GB of ram on my PC so surely there is another 1GB for this? I don't see how even 8GB's of extra ram would benifit the loading of folders?

the point is my CPU/RAM meter doesn't run full on RAM % when I navigate around, so why would more help?

IMO it's more of a HDD thing.....

[chickenbeef]

I don't see how having large folders depends that much on ram ?

win7 uses about 1GB of ram on my PC so surely there is another 1GB for this? I don't see how even 8GB's of extra ram would benifit the loading of folders?

the point is my CPU/RAM meter doesn't run full on RAM % when I navigate around, so why would more help?

IMO it's more of a HDD thing.....

plus one, the hdd is very slow when compared to all other components in the pc

[hj2k_x]

How can the OS make the internet faster?

[marine1]

I have no idea.

[Pr⊕phet]

How can the OS make the internet faster?

a new os, fresh install; less crap running ;)

[marine1]

But could the new os not be optimised in such a way?

[Pr⊕phet]

But could the new os not be optimised in such a way?

well win7 is a major if not major major improvement over vista. running 64x both at work and at home as sole OS. XPM is just plain cool :)

[cerebus]

Goodness....crysis warhead is a lot slower in win764 than xp :( maybe it's because of dx10?

[killadoob]

Try running it via direct 9 cerebus. Gives you the option does it not?

[cerebus]

Where does it give the option? Eh I'll find it thanks.

[ponder]

Where does it give the option? Eh I'll find it thanks.

It's in the crysis options menu somewhere.

Just for the record, Crysis runs slow on everyhting ;)

[Chris_H]

It's in the crysis options menu somewhere.

Just for the record, Crysis runs slow on everyhting ;)

haha, not on my pc :cool:

[adamr]

Initially? Really does it slow down?

the internet of late has been crawling (SAIX/IS)

... i did notice that i was getting the full 4mbit/s glory (and more) when i just installed Windows 7 ... at times i got like 450kbit/s download speeds.... :D ... and i thought the same thing; how can a new OS bring such a marked improvement on my internet experience ...

[S1ght]

Where does it give the option? Eh I'll find it thanks.

If you right click/properties and add -dx9 to the end of the target it goes to directx 9 mode :)

And I will agree win7 is win so far :)

[adamr]

Marine,

try this test out and see what you get http://netspeed.stanford.edu/ ... would like to compare ... hope you on a 4 meg as well, then its apples for apples ...

"TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.5.4a
click START to begin

** Starting test 1 of 1 **
Connected to: netspeed.stanford.edu -- Using IPv4 address
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
checking for firewalls . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client-to-server [C2S]) . . . . . 485.0kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 181.41kb/s
Your PC is connected to a Cable/DSL modem
Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link
[S2C]: Packet queuing detected

click START to re-test"

AND the iburst test http://www.iburst.co.za/default.aspx?link=sales_speedtest

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9263/clipboard01e.jpg

[cerebus]

crysis warhead was running at 30fps on enthusiast.....now it goes down to like 15fps in big areas, sometimes quite unplayable :(

[Pr⊕phet]

so did you start the thing in dx 9?

[killadoob]

Cerebus go click on games, then right click the warhead icon and select dx9 or dx 10.

Running it dx10 without doubt man, you got to select dx 9 or it will load dx 10.

[cerebus]

None of those give me the option to run it in dx9 mode.... I can run it in xp compatibility mode but that's still dx10.

[Pr⊕phet]

try

..\Crysis WARHEAD\Bin32\Crysis.exe" -DX9


One of the biggest performance improvements for Windows Vista users is to switch from using the default DirectX 10 renderer to DirectX 9, in the process gaining quite a few FPS with no noticeable drop in image quality. To do this, you must use the -DX9 command line switch. If you have a desktop icon for Crysis Warhead, then right-click on it, select Properties, then at the end of the Target box, one blank space after the last character, add -DX9. It should look something like this:

"C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\Crytek\Crysis WARHEAD\Bin32\Crysis.exe" -DX9

Alternatively, if you use the Games Explorer launch icon for Warhead, then you can right-click on that and select 'Play DX9' to launch the game in DX9 mode. If you want to always launch Crysis Warhead in DX9 mode just by double-clicking the icon in Games Explorer, then right-click on its icon, select Customize, highlight the 'PlayDX9' item and click the 'Move Up' button at the top right until 'PlayDX9' is at the top of the list, and click Close. Now the game will automatically run in DX9 mode whenever the icon is double-clicked. You can do the same for Crysis Wars.

http://www.tweakguides.com/CrysisWar_3.html

[dudleygb]

where can we get windows7 x64?

its ok i found it

[marine1]

Marine,

try this test out and see what you get http://netspeed.stanford.edu/ ... would like to compare ... hope you on a 4 meg as well, then its apples for apples ...

"TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.5.4a
click START to begin

** Starting test 1 of 1 **
Connected to: netspeed.stanford.edu -- Using IPv4 address
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
checking for firewalls . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client-to-server [C2S]) . . . . . 485.0kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 181.41kb/s
Your PC is connected to a Cable/DSL modem
Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link
[S2C]: Packet queuing detected

click START to re-test"

AND the iburst test http://www.iburst.co.za/default.aspx?link=sales_speedtest

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9263/clipboard01e.jpg
Hi Adam,

TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.5.4a
click START to begin

** Starting test 1 of 1 **
Connected to: netspeed.stanford.edu -- Using IPv4 address
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
checking for firewalls . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client-to-server [C2S]) . . . . . 369.0kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 135.78kb/s

My modem is syncing at :
Upstream 512 kbps
Downstream 2720 kbps

[adamr]

mmm seems like you def getting an awesome speed considering you syncing at 2meg ... damn international is crawling this morn :( ... just start loading your programs on win7, etc and see if your speed is maintained ...

[cerebus]

Thanks necuno that worked!! And it is noticeably faster in dx9 mode...somehow the textures are slightly worse tho. Oh well at least it's fast now.

[marine1]

mmm seems like you def getting an awesome speed considering you syncing at 2meg ... damn international is crawling this morn :( ... just start loading your programs on win7, etc and see if your speed is maintained ...

Hmm not sure bud, but it is flying. My speed is generally ok but nothing like this.

[dudleygb]

how u guys finding win 7? Buggy? or fairly stable?

[cerebus]

Win7 is very stable. I really haven't found any bugs to gripe about.

[dudleygb]

Win7 is very stable. I really haven't found any bugs to gripe about.

thats the rc1 version right? I believe its free to use till next year?

[marine1]

It is stable, running absolutely amazingly fast

[sand_man]

how u guys finding win 7? Buggy? or fairly stable?32-bit awesome awesome awesome, not particularly faster than XP was/is but certainly more user friendly and a lot more efficient then Vista.

Not a big fan of 64-bit though, loaded on my laptop and it wasn't significantly (if at all) quicker or better than 32-bit. In fact the system crashed on a couple of occasions but this occurred while my daughter of 3 was mucking around with paint so could have been her erratic left and right clicks...

[sand_man]

It is stable, running absolutely amazingly fastDid you use the 32-bit version at all? Or straight onto 64-bit?

[marine1]

Straight to 64 bit as I used Vista 64

[general_koffi]

Note to the dude who's having issues with Crysis...

I don't know if NVIDIA has the same problem, but the ATI 9.5 drivers (sometimes?) don't install properly. Windows 7 kept using the default WDM driver until I manually told it to use the new .inf in the ATI folder. The Catalyst Control Centre wouldn't launch etc, and obviously games would have run much slower.

Not sure it's related, but that was my mileage anyway. :p

Once I sorted out that issue, Windows 7 became very, very fast.

[dudleygb]

will win 7 32 bit, see 8GB RAM? Are you running 32 bit MS Office on win 7 x64? If so which version?

[sand_man]

will win 7 32 bit,Probably not, 4GB max although I haven't tried more..

http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/2258-windows-7-32-bit-8-gb-ram.html

[marine1]

will win 7 32 bit, see 8GB RAM? Are you running 32 bit MS Office on win 7 x64? If so which version?

I am running Office 2007, standard.

[dudleygb]

i am told only x64 versions can see more than 4GB

[sand_man]

i am told only x64 versions can see more than 4GB
Yes, that would seem to be the case...

[adamr]

how u guys finding win 7? Buggy? or fairly stable? . . . I find if the pc goes into hibernation and comes out of it, my internet connection dies and it hangs on the shut down screen

[cerebus]

Note to the dude who's having issues with Crysis...

I don't know if NVIDIA has the same problem, but the ATI 9.5 drivers (sometimes?) don't install properly. Windows 7 kept using the default WDM driver until I manually told it to use the new .inf in the ATI folder. The Catalyst Control Centre wouldn't launch etc, and obviously games would have run much slower.

Not sure it's related, but that was my mileage anyway. :p

Once I sorted out that issue, Windows 7 became very, very fast.

Ok how did you go about sorting that out? I don't find win7 slow generally though.

[dudleygb]

. . . I find if the pc goes into hibernation and comes out of it, my internet connection dies and it hangs on the shut down screen

this would explain why some version of vista 64 have this disabled...hmmm, i will make sure I switch off hibernation if possible

[dudleygb]

Note to the dude who's having issues with Crysis...

I don't know if NVIDIA has the same problem, but the ATI 9.5 drivers (sometimes?) don't install properly. Windows 7 kept using the default WDM driver until I manually told it to use the new .inf in the ATI folder. The Catalyst Control Centre wouldn't launch etc, and obviously games would have run much slower.

Not sure it's related, but that was my mileage anyway. :p

Once I sorted out that issue, Windows 7 became very, very fast.

I just got a new pc and I tried crysis and it didnt work, i'm hoping win7 it will actually work, after all, thats the main reason I have a windows share is for gaming, THATS IT

edit: I just downloaded RC1 x64 win 7 woohoo, lets see how it goes, hopefully I can still get a game in tonight :)

[dudleygb]

THIS WIN 7 FREEKING ROCKS!!! Very nice job MS, and I dont even like MSnot

[dudleygb]

and I am in agreement, the accelerators on IE 8 actually makes my little puny 384kbs line feel like a 512 line :) Its definitely faster...huh!

i installed crysis just after the OS install and it picked up everything except a single PCI controller, otherwise it went flawlessly. The game plays without any switches and so far it works beautifully, well done Bill, for once I think MS may just have a good product here.
Nice little extra features like the Theme packs are nice and the slide show background thing is just great.....I am sufficiently impressed

[Decotey]

Doesn't windows 7 just optimize which applications are prioritized. For example in XP and VISTA, windows updates and the like always have a higher priority which causes a delay in gaming latency download speeds etc. as windows is continuously sending little packets out on their own mission (maybe not noticeable but has an effect).

[hj2k_x]

I am also loving Win7 64bit, after two days. Pretty awesome. Fast and compact like XP and pretty like Vista.

[Bikerza]

Only thing I'm missing is the Aero thingy (part of it).
Bought a new laptop with Vista Home Premium on it. Immediately canned it and installed Windows 7 64-bit. Updated all drivers and all seems fine so far.

PS EDIT: ID-10-T error. Oops. Got it sorted.

[hj2k_x]

It really is a joy to behold. All the promise of Vista without the issues and bloat. Damn, my machine is flying :)

[ToxicBunny]

My machine absolutely LOVES windows 7....

I also think its a pretty good effort for a RC...

[hj2k_x]

I have not enjoyed a Windows release like this since going from Win98 to XP. Loving it. And my 6GB RAM is finally recognised by the 64 bit install :)

[DarrylH]

can one run W7 - 64bit on normal hardware? or do you require 64-bit hardware?

[marine1]

I know of some people who are running it on normal hardware. Seems fine.

[killadoob]

You have to run it on 64 bit hardware, if your cpu or mobo is not 64 bit capable you cannot run 64 bit for obvious reasons, this should only affect laptops and oldish pc's.

[DarrylH]

You have to run it on 64 bit hardware, if your cpu or mobo is not 64 bit capable you cannot run 64 bit for obvious reasons, this should only affect laptops and oldish pc's.

:)

A Brand new PC is "old" after 3 months.

Is there anyway to test or find out if your hardware is 64-bit compliant?

[DJNgoma]

You have to run it on 64 bit hardware, if your cpu or mobo is not 64 bit capable you cannot run 64 bit for obvious reasons, this should only affect laptops and oldish pc's.

You mean stone age PCs.

[cerebus]

darrylh - your specs?

[DarrylH]

HP DC7700p CMT
6300 @ 1.86Ghz
4G Ram

checked the HP website and they have the Vista 64bit drivers and all, so i take it that it should be fine.

[cerebus]

Yeah you're good to go with that.

[Bikerza]

It will work fine. I just wiped everything on my new HP laptop and replaced with 64-bit version. Updated drivers and working like a charm.

[DarrylH]

good lord, i only got around to installing W7-RC 64-bit and the ATI drivers so far, and it's flying compared to my vista business edition. :)

will play more tonight.

[The_Techie]

Finally got around to installing Windows 7 RC x64. Pity it doesn't support my old Creative SBLive! soundcard, but the SupremeFX riser card seems to be working fine.

Almost as fast as Windows XP, I'm quite impressed.