morebroadband
17-03-2005, 06:10 AM
Just curious if anyone has been using Skype on 3G, and if so what the quality is like.
Is any one using any other VOIP services?
Is any one using any other VOIP services?
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diabolus
17-03-2005, 08:59 AM
I've used it a few times to phone to a local landline, worked fine with a bit of a delay. Quality was good. Although i can't really compare as my alternative connection is so heavily shaped to prevent skype that it is unusable, so 3G is actually the only connection i actually could get it to work properly.
Only concern is the bandwith usage of skype [mainly because you pay per MB]. So must make sure you're on a cheap p/MB package, i think you might make a loss phoning locally at the R2 p/MB rates, because you pay say 60c per minute (credits you buy on skype) AND the p/MB usage (which you pay vodacom). It's actually -cheaper- to skype all the way to a UK phone than skyping anywhere in SA based on skype rates.
From skype.com rates per minute
Exl VAT Incl VAT
South Africa ZAR 0.539 ZAR 0.620
South Africa - Mobile ZAR 1.435 ZAR 1.650
United Kingdom ZAR 0.129 ZAR 0.148
United Kingdom - Mobile ZAR 1.556 ZAR 1.790
15c to UK vs 62c to SA ....sad
Only concern is the bandwith usage of skype [mainly because you pay per MB]. So must make sure you're on a cheap p/MB package, i think you might make a loss phoning locally at the R2 p/MB rates, because you pay say 60c per minute (credits you buy on skype) AND the p/MB usage (which you pay vodacom). It's actually -cheaper- to skype all the way to a UK phone than skyping anywhere in SA based on skype rates.
From skype.com rates per minute
Exl VAT Incl VAT
South Africa ZAR 0.539 ZAR 0.620
South Africa - Mobile ZAR 1.435 ZAR 1.650
United Kingdom ZAR 0.129 ZAR 0.148
United Kingdom - Mobile ZAR 1.556 ZAR 1.790
15c to UK vs 62c to SA ....sad
kvi
17-03-2005, 09:55 AM
skype rocking for me
fredgr
23-08-2005, 09:29 AM
Hello
HAving tried Skype on Vodacom 3G, I find the quality awful, with lagging and hashing probably due to latency being quite long.
Any good experience with Skype on 3G, i.e. comparable with ADSL ?
HAving tried Skype on Vodacom 3G, I find the quality awful, with lagging and hashing probably due to latency being quite long.
Any good experience with Skype on 3G, i.e. comparable with ADSL ?
tibby.dude
23-08-2005, 10:00 AM
Vodaphone is going to ban all VOIP traffic by 2007 on their networks.
LandyMan
23-08-2005, 10:04 AM
Vodaphone is going to ban all VOIP traffic by 2007 on their networks.
V3G, is this true?
V3G, is this true?
vodacom3g
23-08-2005, 06:14 PM
V3G, is this true?
MY 'own, private, personal' opinion?
By 2007 Vodafone, including Vodacom, will be a major supplier of VoIP traffic.
MY 'own, private, personal' opinion?
By 2007 Vodafone, including Vodacom, will be a major supplier of VoIP traffic.
telkomsuig
23-08-2005, 06:56 PM
Yeah I think the cellular network operators will have to make a sort of paradigm shift towards viewing all 3G, 3G+, 4G etc traffic as pure data - regardless of what type of data...html...ftp...voip...email...it is all still IP packets as far as the customer is concerned, and what the customer wants, the customer will get - even if it is from a competitor :D.
Agreed I think anyway it is going to be a long long time before VOIP over 3G or $G networks gain any kind of mass popularity... It would have to become very user firiendly and stable for the masses to start using it. It took years for people even to start using sms's en masse
Agreed I think anyway it is going to be a long long time before VOIP over 3G or $G networks gain any kind of mass popularity... It would have to become very user firiendly and stable for the masses to start using it. It took years for people even to start using sms's en masse
vodacom3g
23-08-2005, 07:02 PM
Today, VoIP cannot compete with GSM / UMTS voice. It's both heavier in data usage (20-64Kb/s min vs 12Kb/s for a GSM call) and the quality of service cannot be guaranteed or controlled.
Any technology at the end of it's development cycle is always better than the new technology due to replace it. For example, a (good) CRT television (old technology) is still better than most new plasma screens. No one doubts that plasmas or LCD's will eventually outperform and replace CRT in the next few years.
Same with VoIP; current PSTN and GSM / UMTS circuit-switched voice services is better than current VoIP services. However, it's just a matter of time for the network technology to mature and be rolled out.
In the mean time, early adopters (read: forumites) will continue to kick the tyres and thus provide a development platform for vendors.
Any technology at the end of it's development cycle is always better than the new technology due to replace it. For example, a (good) CRT television (old technology) is still better than most new plasma screens. No one doubts that plasmas or LCD's will eventually outperform and replace CRT in the next few years.
Same with VoIP; current PSTN and GSM / UMTS circuit-switched voice services is better than current VoIP services. However, it's just a matter of time for the network technology to mature and be rolled out.
In the mean time, early adopters (read: forumites) will continue to kick the tyres and thus provide a development platform for vendors.
Airmatix
26-08-2005, 09:13 AM
Um, to answer your question, Fredgr, I've been having a great time with Skype (and SkyeOut) on 3G. I seldom have any issues, and my signal strength is only two bars.
With that said, remember to make sure that nothing else is using your connection when you try to use Skype. I had a bad Skype session the other day, and realised only afterwards that I had Windoze Update downloading in the background. Add a couple of large e-mails arriving, and its no wonder Skype struggles a bit every now and again.
However, on a "clean" connection I have no problems, and chat with family in Holland and England quite a lot.
With that said, remember to make sure that nothing else is using your connection when you try to use Skype. I had a bad Skype session the other day, and realised only afterwards that I had Windoze Update downloading in the background. Add a couple of large e-mails arriving, and its no wonder Skype struggles a bit every now and again.
However, on a "clean" connection I have no problems, and chat with family in Holland and England quite a lot.
biometrics
26-08-2005, 10:01 AM
If you can download at 20-30 KBps but only upload at 2 KBps (max 8) as in my case then I doubt it's going to work. So check your uplink. They came to test at my house and I have "weak coverage".
Broadbandreports:
Your download speed : 195855 bps, or 191 kbps.
Your upload speed : 33887 bps, or 33 kbps.
Broadbandreports:
Your download speed : 195855 bps, or 191 kbps.
Your upload speed : 33887 bps, or 33 kbps.
vodacom3g
26-08-2005, 01:03 PM
That is the nature of packet switched data, everything gets equal access to the bandwidth. This will be a problem (for real-time services like voice and video) until QoS is pushed right down to every element along the path. In the mean-time circuit switching is the only way to provide predictable quality.
Newb-lite
28-11-2005, 01:11 PM
Hey
i hope this hasnt been discussed yet , ive been MIA for a while.
I noticed on the mtn thread that using the skype on jasjar (for eg) costs extra , and that mtn frowns heavily upon it. They dont want voip over their data networks or some such.
What is VOdas stance on this? do they mind , forbid , lynch?
i hope this hasnt been discussed yet , ive been MIA for a while.
I noticed on the mtn thread that using the skype on jasjar (for eg) costs extra , and that mtn frowns heavily upon it. They dont want voip over their data networks or some such.
What is VOdas stance on this? do they mind , forbid , lynch?
vodacom3g
28-11-2005, 01:25 PM
When the tariffs were lodged last year, VoIP was pegged at R10/Mb.
However, at this time Vodacom is treating all data as equal, there is no port shaping or billing based on content / protocol / destination, etc. You pay your bundle rate per Mb irrespective of what you do with the data.
The above obviously applies to the 'internet' and 'internetvpn' APN. Blackberry and VLife have different billing structures based on their unique content delivery methods.
However, at this time Vodacom is treating all data as equal, there is no port shaping or billing based on content / protocol / destination, etc. You pay your bundle rate per Mb irrespective of what you do with the data.
The above obviously applies to the 'internet' and 'internetvpn' APN. Blackberry and VLife have different billing structures based on their unique content delivery methods.
Newb-lite
28-11-2005, 01:32 PM
AAH great thanx v3g ...
thus this means i can have a jasjar with 3g , and then use skype to call people in the UK , and it will just munch on my megs i have left over?
thus this means i can have a jasjar with 3g , and then use skype to call people in the UK , and it will just munch on my megs i have left over?
mancombseepgood
06-01-2006, 05:22 PM
Anyone used Vodacom 3G for VOIP? Does it work... or is it illegal like MTN?
JStrike
06-01-2006, 05:46 PM
I dont think MTN should be illegal. They are not so bad. CellC on the other hand...
As to your question, I have no idea, but am interested in knowing as well
As to your question, I have no idea, but am interested in knowing as well
rory
06-01-2006, 06:15 PM
Yes I have a jasjar running windows mobile 5 and have communicated with family in New Zealand via skype and 3G. Sound quality is excellent. A slight delay is noted but not worse than when using skype via adsl.
ambo
07-01-2006, 12:58 AM
I've chatted on Skype over a GPRS-ADSL link - it was crystal clear!
You do however need very healthy signal to achieve that - had disasterous effects when the signal strength dropped below 60%.
You do however need very healthy signal to achieve that - had disasterous effects when the signal strength dropped below 60%.
mancombseepgood
07-01-2006, 10:58 AM
I dont think MTN should be illegal. They are not so bad. CellC on the other hand...
As to your question, I have no idea, but am interested in knowing as well
No voip on mtn is allowed. I confirmed this today with MTNSP. So I have skype on my imate, but cant use it 4 voip. Cant use my edge card for voip either. Dial 155 from an mtn handset to confirm this - they will tell you details on policies, fines, etc.
As to your question, I have no idea, but am interested in knowing as well
No voip on mtn is allowed. I confirmed this today with MTNSP. So I have skype on my imate, but cant use it 4 voip. Cant use my edge card for voip either. Dial 155 from an mtn handset to confirm this - they will tell you details on policies, fines, etc.
bismay
07-01-2006, 11:38 AM
Vodacom, 2hour phone call, skype to landline( america ) using gprs and 3g no problem. slight delay but thats about it.
mancombseepgood
07-01-2006, 12:13 PM
Vodacom, 2hour phone call, skype to landline( america ) using gprs and 3g no problem. slight delay but thats about it.
That's what I need to hear. I am seriously considering cancelling my Telkom ADSL order after waiting more than a month and after they missed 4 appointments to install. I will go with 3G... not to find a handset / router / data card that supports future technologies...
That's what I need to hear. I am seriously considering cancelling my Telkom ADSL order after waiting more than a month and after they missed 4 appointments to install. I will go with 3G... not to find a handset / router / data card that supports future technologies...
vodacom3g
07-01-2006, 01:12 PM
Got this PM from EdRobinson, but as it's a general interest question, I'll post an answer here:
"Is it legal to use VOIP on Vodacom 3g? Is it throttled?"
It is perfectly legal to use VoIP on the Vodacom 3G network. When the initial data rates were lodged with ICASA, a specific tariff of R10/Mb was lodged for voice. However, this is not implemented and currently yo pay normal data rates for any protocol you might want to use, including P2P.
There is no port shaping or throttling of any protocols on the network including voice. It's an open, shared medium and all protocols get equal access to the network.
Some ICMP and routing protocols are being blocked but this is done to protect you from being attacked or scanned.
"Is it legal to use VOIP on Vodacom 3g? Is it throttled?"
It is perfectly legal to use VoIP on the Vodacom 3G network. When the initial data rates were lodged with ICASA, a specific tariff of R10/Mb was lodged for voice. However, this is not implemented and currently yo pay normal data rates for any protocol you might want to use, including P2P.
There is no port shaping or throttling of any protocols on the network including voice. It's an open, shared medium and all protocols get equal access to the network.
Some ICMP and routing protocols are being blocked but this is done to protect you from being attacked or scanned.
bismay
07-01-2006, 08:40 PM
made another call (20mins), once again no issues at all
vodacom3g
08-01-2006, 06:08 AM
made another call (20mins), once again no issues at all
Local or international?
What is the general usage trend, i.e. do you mostly use VoIP for local or international calls?
Local or international?
What is the general usage trend, i.e. do you mostly use VoIP for local or international calls?
mancombseepgood
08-01-2006, 09:35 AM
Local or international?
What is the general usage trend, i.e. do you mostly use VoIP for local or international calls?
Don't worry Vodacom... I think most people use it for intl. SA VOIP prices negate using it for local (except maybe long dist. land line). Mainly cos of charges to VoIP sp's i suspect.
What is the general usage trend, i.e. do you mostly use VoIP for local or international calls?
Don't worry Vodacom... I think most people use it for intl. SA VOIP prices negate using it for local (except maybe long dist. land line). Mainly cos of charges to VoIP sp's i suspect.
vodacom3g
08-01-2006, 09:46 AM
Don't worry Vodacom... I think most people use it for intl. SA VOIP prices negate using it for local (except maybe long dist. land line). Mainly cos of charges to VoIP sp's i suspect.
Not worried :) more interrested in usage patterns. If we can determine how users would like to use VoIP, we can start building solutions.
I suspect it to be 80-90% international.
It's going to be quite a while yet before you'll get quality of service on IP-based solutions but this is mostly negated by costs on international calls.
Not worried :) more interrested in usage patterns. If we can determine how users would like to use VoIP, we can start building solutions.
I suspect it to be 80-90% international.
It's going to be quite a while yet before you'll get quality of service on IP-based solutions but this is mostly negated by costs on international calls.
ambo
08-01-2006, 11:06 AM
@v3g - is VoIP less strain on the network compared with normal calling?
The pricing structures of data vs normal calls certainly indicates that to me...
The pricing structures of data vs normal calls certainly indicates that to me...
vodacom3g
08-01-2006, 12:32 PM
A VoIP call does take more raw bandwidth than a normal circuit-switched call. I've seen Skype using 40Kb/s+ while a good quality CS call is less than 15Kb/s. But this is not the main issue with VoIP at the moment.
It's more to do with quality, or rather, garuanteed QoS. A normal voice call gets allocated a fixed amount of bandwidth via CS, this gives a fixed quality. The network is finely tuned to deliver the best quality over this type of link.
IP was designed as a data protocol, where issues like varying latency, bumpy throughput and even the sequence of packets aren't that important.
These same factors are killers for voice quality. So, till we seen end-to-end QoS on IP, VoIP will stay a specialist application. In the interim sections of carrier networks (where QoS can be controlled) will migrate over to VoIP.
It's more to do with quality, or rather, garuanteed QoS. A normal voice call gets allocated a fixed amount of bandwidth via CS, this gives a fixed quality. The network is finely tuned to deliver the best quality over this type of link.
IP was designed as a data protocol, where issues like varying latency, bumpy throughput and even the sequence of packets aren't that important.
These same factors are killers for voice quality. So, till we seen end-to-end QoS on IP, VoIP will stay a specialist application. In the interim sections of carrier networks (where QoS can be controlled) will migrate over to VoIP.
ambo
08-01-2006, 01:26 PM
QoS is definitely the biggest thing holding VoIP back. And that is why it is not a mature enough technology to be used as a primary network.
That being said i must disagree with you regarding the bandwidth used. Although some of the SIP based VoIP protocols may use as much as 40kB/s... in my experience Skype can squeeze itself into as little as 6kB/s and when you do the maths of that data speed on a R2/MB rate (ie not even any data bundles) it works out favourably. However - the other side of the call MUST terminate on a cheaper network eg ADSL otherwise the break even is bypassed.
That being said i must disagree with you regarding the bandwidth used. Although some of the SIP based VoIP protocols may use as much as 40kB/s... in my experience Skype can squeeze itself into as little as 6kB/s and when you do the maths of that data speed on a R2/MB rate (ie not even any data bundles) it works out favourably. However - the other side of the call MUST terminate on a cheaper network eg ADSL otherwise the break even is bypassed.
bismay
08-01-2006, 04:01 PM
internasional calls! sometimes uses more bandwidth than normal, but call quality also increases with higher data transfer.
kilo39
08-01-2006, 05:54 PM
The assumptions in this thread just astound me:
When the initial data rates were lodged with ICASA, a specific tariff of R10/Mb was lodged for voice.
Who are these people - that can set costs of R10 per meg - with seemingly no regard to market forces or market demand - or even simple need. The simplicity of wanting to provide excellent service at an excellent price - R10 a meg - or even R2meg is not an excellent price - it is the usual ripoff.
If we can determine how users would like to use VoIP, we can start building solutions.
At R10meg or R2meg what has this got to do with users - zero or very few users. Why do these companies charge these amounts when more users equates with more profits - even if individual users themselves are perhaps less profitable.
However - the other side of the call MUST terminate on a cheaper network eg ADSL otherwise the break even is bypassed.
So to use Skype - a supposed dirt cheap internet service - will cost more than a normal voice call - this exactly shows how wacky our call billing is in this country - what is going on? :rolleyes:
When the initial data rates were lodged with ICASA, a specific tariff of R10/Mb was lodged for voice.
Who are these people - that can set costs of R10 per meg - with seemingly no regard to market forces or market demand - or even simple need. The simplicity of wanting to provide excellent service at an excellent price - R10 a meg - or even R2meg is not an excellent price - it is the usual ripoff.
If we can determine how users would like to use VoIP, we can start building solutions.
At R10meg or R2meg what has this got to do with users - zero or very few users. Why do these companies charge these amounts when more users equates with more profits - even if individual users themselves are perhaps less profitable.
However - the other side of the call MUST terminate on a cheaper network eg ADSL otherwise the break even is bypassed.
So to use Skype - a supposed dirt cheap internet service - will cost more than a normal voice call - this exactly shows how wacky our call billing is in this country - what is going on? :rolleyes:
mancombseepgood
08-01-2006, 10:45 PM
is... what is on paper as far as Vodacom is concerned... have they taken the R10 per meg out of the paperwork... yes, I know they aren't charging it at this stage, but what if I take a two year contract and two months down the line they decide to implement the R10 per meg VOIP charge? Until I'm sure it is no longer written policy, I would feel a little wary... what do you think?
Mams
20-01-2006, 09:33 AM
Did a Skype Out conference call using 3g to two landlines simulataneously.
Excellent call clarity.
Measured the mbs:
Call time was: 11min 46 sec
Uploaded: 3.30mb
Downloaded: 1.60mb
= total 4.9 mb
Lets call it 5mb divided by 12 min = +/- 430kb per min
and in cost = @ R2 per mb > 84c per min
and at 60c per mb > 25c per min
In my case its 80c per mb so 34c per min so my call cost was about R4-00 to Vodacom plus my Skype Out costs...not bad
Now when per mb rates drop, as we hope they will, then we will be really seeing good use of Voip
Excellent call clarity.
Measured the mbs:
Call time was: 11min 46 sec
Uploaded: 3.30mb
Downloaded: 1.60mb
= total 4.9 mb
Lets call it 5mb divided by 12 min = +/- 430kb per min
and in cost = @ R2 per mb > 84c per min
and at 60c per mb > 25c per min
In my case its 80c per mb so 34c per min so my call cost was about R4-00 to Vodacom plus my Skype Out costs...not bad
Now when per mb rates drop, as we hope they will, then we will be really seeing good use of Voip
zephyr2
21-01-2006, 10:03 AM
I live on a yacht in Mossel Bay and as such do not have a land line. I have a cell phone and a Vodafone 3G/GPRS Data Card.
My daughter lives in the USA and we regularly chat vis Skype - computer to computer.
There is a delay sometimes but this is ok for me - at least I can chat to my daughter for reasonable costings!!
Regards,
Errol
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My daughter lives in the USA and we regularly chat vis Skype - computer to computer.
There is a delay sometimes but this is ok for me - at least I can chat to my daughter for reasonable costings!!
Regards,
Errol
====================
Nánfeirén
25-01-2006, 09:22 AM
any other k-jammers using Skype? I tried mine last night, managed to connect and heard the other party loud and clear, but he could barely hear me, very poor quality on his side. All other applications on my phone were shut down, only Skype running.
Any ideas how to fix this?
Any ideas how to fix this?
Roman4604
25-01-2006, 11:55 AM
Call the 'Testing Tannie' @ echo123. May help you figure out where the problem is as you'll be able to hear yourself.
ajax
02-02-2006, 11:19 PM
Just made my 1st Skype call over 3G.
Called a friend in Somerset West. Quality was very good. I had very nice chat.
Anyone know how the call is routed? First to USA and back, or is there a "router" or something in SA?
Called a friend in Somerset West. Quality was very good. I had very nice chat.
Anyone know how the call is routed? First to USA and back, or is there a "router" or something in SA?
ajax
03-02-2006, 06:25 AM
Once a call is in progress, VoIP packets are effectively transmitted between caller & callee over whatever the Skype applications at each end determine to be the most effective route. There is a lot more to it - Skype does use P2P, and then there are 'Super Nodes' and other techno babble stuff...
Vodacom's bandwidth is unshaped and unprioritised, I presume?
Vodacom's bandwidth is unshaped and unprioritised, I presume?
vodacom3g
03-02-2006, 07:44 AM
Vodacom's bandwidth is unshaped and unprioritised, I presume?
Correct.
Skype routing is a best-effort point-to-point affair, i.e. if there was no firewalling between the two nodes and both IP's were directly routable, they would connect directly to each other. This would give the best possible connection.
When ports are firewalled or NAT is implemented in some cases, you need 'external' help to complete the call. These are the so-called 'supernodes' that act as Skype routers. The two parties both connect to the supernode (somewhere on the internet) and this system then passes the packets between the two clients. This obviously introduces extra latencies.
Correct.
Skype routing is a best-effort point-to-point affair, i.e. if there was no firewalling between the two nodes and both IP's were directly routable, they would connect directly to each other. This would give the best possible connection.
When ports are firewalled or NAT is implemented in some cases, you need 'external' help to complete the call. These are the so-called 'supernodes' that act as Skype routers. The two parties both connect to the supernode (somewhere on the internet) and this system then passes the packets between the two clients. This obviously introduces extra latencies.
Liposuck2004
04-02-2006, 09:58 AM
ja , no bandwith shaping on voda o my knowledge.
MobileAllOver
10-02-2006, 08:13 PM
Anyone having good experience with Skype over 3G connection?
Using normal ADSL to ADSL Skype traffic, the connection is perfect. When a connection is made over 3G (private / public IP), the connection is really too slow to have a decent conversation.
I know that the data on cellphone numbers tend to have a latency, but seeing that voice calls work perfect to any line, I assume that the data route should work in some or other way? :confused:
VPN connections and other data transfers work 100%, any way to improve my Skype traffic? I haven't tested 3G to 3G connections as yet, but will soon...
Using normal ADSL to ADSL Skype traffic, the connection is perfect. When a connection is made over 3G (private / public IP), the connection is really too slow to have a decent conversation.
I know that the data on cellphone numbers tend to have a latency, but seeing that voice calls work perfect to any line, I assume that the data route should work in some or other way? :confused:
VPN connections and other data transfers work 100%, any way to improve my Skype traffic? I haven't tested 3G to 3G connections as yet, but will soon...
ajax
12-02-2006, 12:35 PM
Anyone having good experience with Skype over 3G connection?
Using normal ADSL to ADSL Skype traffic, the connection is perfect. When a connection is made over 3G (private / public IP), the connection is really too slow to have a decent conversation.
I know that the data on cellphone numbers tend to have a latency, but seeing that voice calls work perfect to any line, I assume that the data route should work in some or other way? :confused:
VPN connections and other data transfers work 100%, any way to improve my Skype traffic? I haven't tested 3G to 3G connections as yet, but will soon...
I have tested 3G to 3G. It works quite well. There is a delay, like you shouldn't really try to interrupt someone when they speak, but the voice quality is very good. I lose a word or 2 of a sentence every now and then, but its not so bad that I can't have a decent conversation.
I see it uses about 10 to 15 kByte/sec, so out-of-bundle, using 12.5 kByte average it equates to R1.50 per minute - a bit pricey, but if you're on the 1Gig bundle that is about 40-50c per minute.
Is there a way to reduce the bandwidth usage? I've heard of guys using Skype on dial-up.
Using normal ADSL to ADSL Skype traffic, the connection is perfect. When a connection is made over 3G (private / public IP), the connection is really too slow to have a decent conversation.
I know that the data on cellphone numbers tend to have a latency, but seeing that voice calls work perfect to any line, I assume that the data route should work in some or other way? :confused:
VPN connections and other data transfers work 100%, any way to improve my Skype traffic? I haven't tested 3G to 3G connections as yet, but will soon...
I have tested 3G to 3G. It works quite well. There is a delay, like you shouldn't really try to interrupt someone when they speak, but the voice quality is very good. I lose a word or 2 of a sentence every now and then, but its not so bad that I can't have a decent conversation.
I see it uses about 10 to 15 kByte/sec, so out-of-bundle, using 12.5 kByte average it equates to R1.50 per minute - a bit pricey, but if you're on the 1Gig bundle that is about 40-50c per minute.
Is there a way to reduce the bandwidth usage? I've heard of guys using Skype on dial-up.
NeBo
12-02-2006, 07:33 PM
I've used Skype over 3g to the USA and yes it chews a bit of bandwidth but works very well. Can hear everything clearly but the peeps on the other side sometimes miss words as upload is on 64k on 3g.
ScrnScrm
17-02-2006, 09:20 PM
I have tested 3G to 3G. It works quite well. There is a delay, like you shouldn't really try to interrupt someone when they speak, but the voice quality is very good. I lose a word or 2 of a sentence every now and then, but its not so bad that I can't have a decent conversation.
I see it uses about 10 to 15 kByte/sec, so out-of-bundle, using 12.5 kByte average it equates to R1.50 per minute - a bit pricey, but if you're on the 1Gig bundle that is about 40-50c per minute.
Is there a way to reduce the bandwidth usage? I've heard of guys using Skype on dial-up.
Hey Ajax - are you making yourself a super node? It chows a lot more bandwidth for the (slightly) better voice quality. In my experience, you use about 4 to 5 kByte/sec up to a max of 10 at best quality settings...
I see it uses about 10 to 15 kByte/sec, so out-of-bundle, using 12.5 kByte average it equates to R1.50 per minute - a bit pricey, but if you're on the 1Gig bundle that is about 40-50c per minute.
Is there a way to reduce the bandwidth usage? I've heard of guys using Skype on dial-up.
Hey Ajax - are you making yourself a super node? It chows a lot more bandwidth for the (slightly) better voice quality. In my experience, you use about 4 to 5 kByte/sec up to a max of 10 at best quality settings...
ajax
17-02-2006, 09:56 PM
I have no clue what I am :)
I just installed Skype and started using it. Any pointers where I can check what or who I am?
I just installed Skype and started using it. Any pointers where I can check what or who I am?
kittychunk
20-02-2006, 10:52 AM
There was some blathering from the cell companies when 3G and VoIP started gaining popularity that they were going to try and charge VoIP traffic as though it was a voice call (further details never emerged). The gist was, they were all bent out of shape about "cheap" VoIP calls bypassing their costly "traditional voice call" infrastructure and losing them income.
I assume they gave up on this?
<EDIT> Never mind me. Perhaps I should read the whole thread before posting eh?
I assume they gave up on this?
<EDIT> Never mind me. Perhaps I should read the whole thread before posting eh?
MobileAllOver
20-02-2006, 09:49 PM
My Skype over 3G experience :- works perfectly for chatting with family and friends, but the delay (between 0.5 - 2 seconds) is just not acceptable for business and professional use.
On 3G there is a definite delay, with ADSL most connections can be compared to normal voice calls, if not better (especially calls to USA / Canada / Europe)
On 3G there is a definite delay, with ADSL most connections can be compared to normal voice calls, if not better (especially calls to USA / Canada / Europe)
xssnet
21-02-2006, 02:00 PM
can anyone advise me on which data package I should go with, I would like to use skype to chat to my family in Holland and some browsing and email access? Is the 500mb package fine, possible I will spend 45-60 minutes per skype session, only running voice and basically 3 times a week or should I opt for the 1gig package ?
ajax
21-02-2006, 02:10 PM
First see how the 500 MB package suits you. You can always upgrade later.
Skype uses about 10-15 kByte/sec (i.e. total upload+download), make your calculations.
It may be a good idea to make absolutely sure you have 3G coverage and that Skype works for you over 3G before signing a contract.
Skype uses about 10-15 kByte/sec (i.e. total upload+download), make your calculations.
It may be a good idea to make absolutely sure you have 3G coverage and that Skype works for you over 3G before signing a contract.
Tonyh
16-04-2006, 12:00 PM
Skype works really well on the Vodafone 3G HSDPA card., especially with a Skype phone. The best phone to use is probably one with a USB cable link – but without being linked to a wireless home phone. (The wireless sending base interferes with your 3G HSDPA signal.) The signal during a call remains quite constant – but there are some poor spots with the usual sudden ups and downs that you get on the network at the moment. Just remember to reset your Windows Media Player speaker settings so that your music doesn’t get sent to your phone! With SkypeOut you will pay 13 cents a minute to speak to land lines in UK and USA. Further testing on cost implications for Vodacom MB transfer rates needed. Anyone done the work?
internaut
16-04-2006, 12:54 PM
Id like to know what the U/D ratios are as well, considering that we pay per meg.
kaeiou
16-04-2006, 01:13 PM
does skype work on voda 3G or mtn 3G? anyone tried?
Tonyh
16-04-2006, 01:45 PM
Yes - no problems. (Yes, maybe, just the up and down quality of local signal.)
bruceahibbert
16-04-2006, 02:54 PM
No probs on 3G straight or HSDPA:)
Swoosh
18-04-2006, 01:01 PM
It works, even wiff my webcam
Bundy2005
22-04-2006, 11:01 AM
Hi V3g
i know you can help me out here im looking for the details on using hsdpa on voice over ip if their are delays or what the in and out are if possible
Thanks:rolleyes:
i know you can help me out here im looking for the details on using hsdpa on voice over ip if their are delays or what the in and out are if possible
Thanks:rolleyes:
Big Kriss
22-04-2006, 04:03 PM
Ic,Explain Skype Supernode to an ijiut...I uninstalled Skype for being a bandwidth hogg....
Big Kriss
22-04-2006, 05:10 PM
Mmmm,Excactly what I saw..serious bandwidth usage with Skype..
Thanks..
Thanks..
internaut
22-04-2006, 07:43 PM
...Skype uses about 10-15 kByte/sec (i.e. total upload+download), make your calculations...
That R1.20 - R2.00 a minute out of bundle. :eek:
Does shouting or singing make a difference to the data size?
That R1.20 - R2.00 a minute out of bundle. :eek:
Does shouting or singing make a difference to the data size?
GB Kid
27-10-2006, 08:59 PM
:confused: At the moment I am online through my old Nokia 6230 using Vodacom GPRS and Virgin's cheaper MB and a Bluetooth link to my MAC Powerbook. Would be a great on the move system if my MAC powerbook would retain it's battery power but that's another story.
At the moment I am unable to make Skype calls since I believe my line speed to be too slow through GPRS. I live in a Vodacom HSDPA and 3G area and wonder if I change my phone to a Nokia 6233 will I be able to make Skype calls using the 3G technology? Or will buying a new phone be wasting my money.
Can anyone advise?
At the moment I am unable to make Skype calls since I believe my line speed to be too slow through GPRS. I live in a Vodacom HSDPA and 3G area and wonder if I change my phone to a Nokia 6233 will I be able to make Skype calls using the 3G technology? Or will buying a new phone be wasting my money.
Can anyone advise?
nuyork
28-10-2006, 01:22 AM
Well I have a 3G Nokia phone and Skype works great on the 3G network. And it also work pretty OK on the GPRS network too. I haven't had any problems.
I use fring (http://www.fring.com/) on my 3G phone, which is a Skype/GoogleTalk app for your phone.
So I haven't actually tried using Skype over on my laptop connected to the 3G phone.
:L:
I use fring (http://www.fring.com/) on my 3G phone, which is a Skype/GoogleTalk app for your phone.
So I haven't actually tried using Skype over on my laptop connected to the 3G phone.
:L:
ajax
28-10-2006, 08:13 AM
Yup, have used Skype on 3G with laptop, quite usable! Skype uses more bandwidth than Fring though, about 10kiloBytes/sec, so do the math. But we have experimented with Netlimiter to limit the available bandwidth. We found if you set the speed limit of the Skype application in Netlimiter to 4 kiloBytes/sec, it uses about 3kByte/sec and still the sound quality is better than normal GSM.
A friend of mine regularly calls his folks in Canada with Fring. Fring only runs on SOME Nokia phones though, and not the 6233. Fring to Fring calls uses the least amount of bandwidth, about 100 kiloBytes/minute total for upload and download together, so 20c/min out of bundle!
A very nice feature of the 6233 is that in the network settings of the phone you can set it to use 3G only. This is a very useful setting in areas where most phones, on dual mode, regularly switch back and forth between normal GSM and 3G.
A friend of mine regularly calls his folks in Canada with Fring. Fring only runs on SOME Nokia phones though, and not the 6233. Fring to Fring calls uses the least amount of bandwidth, about 100 kiloBytes/minute total for upload and download together, so 20c/min out of bundle!
A very nice feature of the 6233 is that in the network settings of the phone you can set it to use 3G only. This is a very useful setting in areas where most phones, on dual mode, regularly switch back and forth between normal GSM and 3G.
GB Kid
28-10-2006, 06:10 PM
Thanks for the kind replies. I went out and bought a 6233 today from GAME cost me R2500 inc a CellC sim and some airtime which will go in the bin.
And YES it does work now.
I've make some Skype calls, through my Mac, to Bluetooth using InfraRed CID and a Vodacom 3g connection to a Nokia 6233.
I'm a happy chap. Line speed is so much better on 3G. Just need to work on the scripting with the phone to the Mac since I am sure that InfraRed CID scripts are not the fastest. Thanks again for your help, will take at look at fring.
GB Kid.
P.S. Couldn't get a contract without an ID book dam it.
And YES it does work now.
I've make some Skype calls, through my Mac, to Bluetooth using InfraRed CID and a Vodacom 3g connection to a Nokia 6233.
I'm a happy chap. Line speed is so much better on 3G. Just need to work on the scripting with the phone to the Mac since I am sure that InfraRed CID scripts are not the fastest. Thanks again for your help, will take at look at fring.
GB Kid.
P.S. Couldn't get a contract without an ID book dam it.
mieder
28-11-2006, 03:31 PM
Hi Kid
If I understand correctly you got it right to make a call with Skype on your Nokia 6233? How did you accomplish that??
That would be great!!
If I understand correctly you got it right to make a call with Skype on your Nokia 6233? How did you accomplish that??
That would be great!!
Syndyre
05-12-2006, 06:40 PM
Saw this on another thread, can anyone confirm it?
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=775535&postcount=6
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=775535&postcount=6
vodacom3g
05-12-2006, 08:15 PM
Saw this on another thread, can anyone confirm it?
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=775535&postcount=6
Been thinking of how to put it diplomatically, but decided to post my first reaction:
ABSOLUTE B*LLSH*T !!!
Whoever dreamt this up is smoking his socks......
And now it's going to take weeks to calm the hysterical conspiracy theorists down.....
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=775535&postcount=6
Been thinking of how to put it diplomatically, but decided to post my first reaction:
ABSOLUTE B*LLSH*T !!!
Whoever dreamt this up is smoking his socks......
And now it's going to take weeks to calm the hysterical conspiracy theorists down.....
Syndyre
05-12-2006, 08:18 PM
Been thinking of how to put ti diplomatically, but decided to post my first reaction:
ABSOLUTE B*LLSH*T !!!
Whoever dreamt this up is smoking his socks......
LOL! :D
Thought that was the case, especially considering the silence after I asked for evidence, just wanted to confirm. There seem to be a lot of creative people on this forum considering that Vodacom also apparently watches its users in real time. ;)
ABSOLUTE B*LLSH*T !!!
Whoever dreamt this up is smoking his socks......
LOL! :D
Thought that was the case, especially considering the silence after I asked for evidence, just wanted to confirm. There seem to be a lot of creative people on this forum considering that Vodacom also apparently watches its users in real time. ;)
vodacom3g
05-12-2006, 08:29 PM
LOL! :D
Thought that was the case, especially considering the silence after I asked for evidence, just wanted to confirm. There seem to be a lot of creative people on this forum considering that Vodacom also apparently watches its users in real time. ;)
Exactly, probably the same people...... :)
Thought that was the case, especially considering the silence after I asked for evidence, just wanted to confirm. There seem to be a lot of creative people on this forum considering that Vodacom also apparently watches its users in real time. ;)
Exactly, probably the same people...... :)
Syndyre
05-12-2006, 08:34 PM
Exactly, probably the same people...... :)
Must be something in the water. :D
Must be something in the water. :D
Syndyre
05-12-2006, 08:35 PM
And now it's going to take weeks to calm the hysterical conspiracy theorists down.....
Good luck!! It's all part of the wider conspiracy to set up a Vodafone world government you know, Vodacom's just a pawn in their game. :p
Good luck!! It's all part of the wider conspiracy to set up a Vodafone world government you know, Vodacom's just a pawn in their game. :p
Spamhater
10-01-2007, 01:32 PM
Does any one know if a nokia 6680 is capable of using skype ?
LandyMan
10-01-2007, 01:36 PM
Not Skype per say, but fring which connects to both Skype and Google Talk
Silent_Bob
10-01-2007, 04:05 PM
Fring is an awesome little app, i use it on my N70, i get cristle clear calls and it doesnt use much data!
The Guy
10-01-2007, 04:32 PM
check www.skype.com they are accommodating Symbian devices now
Garyvdh
11-01-2007, 03:04 PM
check www.skype.com they are accommodating Symbian devices now
where do you see that? I don't see anything there about skype for Symbian???:confused:
where do you see that? I don't see anything there about skype for Symbian???:confused:
Swoosh
12-01-2007, 09:44 AM
Couldn't see it either...
LandyMan
12-01-2007, 09:59 AM
ME neither ... thats why I am still using fring
ac1973
28-02-2007, 02:43 PM
Hi,
I read above that some managed to use Skype on Nokia 6233 via Fring.
Unfortunatekly when I try to download Fring the 6233 is not in the list of Nokia's they support...
Can it work by downloading version for different Nokia?
Is there an other application that would make Skype work on Nokia 6233?
Really interested!
AC
I read above that some managed to use Skype on Nokia 6233 via Fring.
Unfortunatekly when I try to download Fring the 6233 is not in the list of Nokia's they support...
Can it work by downloading version for different Nokia?
Is there an other application that would make Skype work on Nokia 6233?
Really interested!
AC
LandyMan
28-02-2007, 02:47 PM
I have made Skype calls via fring on my 6680 on a 3G connection, and it was extremely clear
Cujo
12-07-2007, 11:11 AM
Hello
I need to get the cheapest solution to fit my budget at the moment - Excluding telkom options.
I need to do minimum browsing, a bit of downloading and talk to my family in the UK via Skype.
Does skype run acceptable on HSDPA ?
Thanks
I need to get the cheapest solution to fit my budget at the moment - Excluding telkom options.
I need to do minimum browsing, a bit of downloading and talk to my family in the UK via Skype.
Does skype run acceptable on HSDPA ?
Thanks
JK8
12-07-2007, 11:35 AM
I wouldnt chance it if I had to stick to a budget.
Cujo
12-07-2007, 11:45 AM
Im a very carefull browser JK8, so im not worried about going over 2GB. Im lucky enough to have 4mb line at work for downloading what i need.
Does skype run ok is more of a concern to me.
Does skype run ok is more of a concern to me.
Cujo
12-07-2007, 12:34 PM
Thanks ic. I stay 500 meters from the Vocacom tower. People using HSDPA in the area told me its works excellently for what they do. No one uses skype though. I will be using Skypeout to the UK, how has your experiance been with this ?
JK8
12-07-2007, 12:58 PM
DOnt you get billed differently?
LandyMan
12-07-2007, 01:05 PM
DOnt you get billed differently?
No, this is not the MTN forum :D
No, this is not the MTN forum :D
Cujo
12-07-2007, 01:17 PM
Thanks for the input. Ill let you know how it works in the next few weeks.
caspa
12-07-2007, 01:46 PM
I use Skype out (fring) on my cell phone to make calls to the uk all the time, works 100% for me every time. i used to also use it with my 3g card in my laptop with no issues.
Chatterbox
16-07-2007, 06:32 PM
Before you decide on using 3g for skype calls check the way Vodacom charges for skype. They are apparently able to detect when you are using the 3G connection for Skype and charge any connection made as a "data call".
I haven't experienced it myself but a friend has been charged R400 in one month for calls made using Skype to Italy.
I haven't experienced it myself but a friend has been charged R400 in one month for calls made using Skype to Italy.
MrG
16-07-2007, 06:41 PM
No, this is not the MTN forum :D
I use Fring and Truphone on my MTN contract, no issues so far?
I use Fring and Truphone on my MTN contract, no issues so far?
vodacom3g
16-07-2007, 07:26 PM
Before you decide on using 3g for skype calls check the way Vodacom charges for skype. They are apparently able to detect when you are using the 3G connection for Skype and charge any connection made as a "data call".
I haven't experienced it myself but a friend has been charged R400 in one month for calls made using Skype to Italy.
Not true at all. Your 'friend' probably just used data to the value of R400.
I haven't experienced it myself but a friend has been charged R400 in one month for calls made using Skype to Italy.
Not true at all. Your 'friend' probably just used data to the value of R400.
MrG
16-07-2007, 09:40 PM
R400 without a bundle is 200MB
Around ~40MB (up+down) per 60 minutes. Using the encoding quality Truphone uses at standard settings.
5 Hours of VOIP calls using Truphone will hit you at R400.
Its best to get a Data Bundle else stick to WiFi Hotspots. ;)
Around ~40MB (up+down) per 60 minutes. Using the encoding quality Truphone uses at standard settings.
5 Hours of VOIP calls using Truphone will hit you at R400.
Its best to get a Data Bundle else stick to WiFi Hotspots. ;)
ajax
17-07-2007, 07:06 AM
R400 without a bundle is 200MB
Around ~40MB (up+down) per 60 minutes. Using the encoding quality Truphone uses at standard settings.
5 Hours of VOIP calls using Truphone will hit you at R400.
Its best to get a Data Bundle else stick to WiFi Hotspots. ;)
I use Google Talk as far as possible. I have found it uses half the bandwidth that Skype uses, so half the cost :)
Around ~40MB (up+down) per 60 minutes. Using the encoding quality Truphone uses at standard settings.
5 Hours of VOIP calls using Truphone will hit you at R400.
Its best to get a Data Bundle else stick to WiFi Hotspots. ;)
I use Google Talk as far as possible. I have found it uses half the bandwidth that Skype uses, so half the cost :)
Simon_B
05-08-2007, 11:27 PM
Hello
I need to get the cheapest solution to fit my budget at the moment - Excluding telkom options.
I need to do minimum browsing, a bit of downloading and talk to my family in the UK via Skype.
Does skype run acceptable on HSDPA ?
Thanks
Skype works perfectly over 3G and Hsdpa, However if you are going for a mobile why not try one of the mobile VoIP programs currently available.
I find fring is the cheapest option for me from my symbian mobile. fring supports Skype, GoogleTalk, Twitter, MSN and SIP so its easy to use across all the VoIP networks and you only need to download one application, they also have a very good support service.
This is the data usage according to frings website: http://www.fring.com/about/cost_saving/
"fring for Symbian phones consumes:
~ 8MB for a 60-minute VoIP call; (8MB is about R16 for an hour at current rates)
0.05 KB per instant message;
~ 10KB per hour connectivity
fring for Windows handsets consumes:
~ 14.5MB for a 60 minute VoIP call;
16.2 KB per hour connectivity
fring for Symbian UIQ handsets consumes:
~ 8.6MB for a 60 minute VoIP call;
32.1 per hour connectivity"
Btw "Just make sure that you are not caught unawares by your mobile operator." http://blog.fring.com/southafrica/?p=14 Read your contract very carefully.
I would personally recommend getting a prepaid number for any VoIP related calls. Better safe than sorry
I need to get the cheapest solution to fit my budget at the moment - Excluding telkom options.
I need to do minimum browsing, a bit of downloading and talk to my family in the UK via Skype.
Does skype run acceptable on HSDPA ?
Thanks
Skype works perfectly over 3G and Hsdpa, However if you are going for a mobile why not try one of the mobile VoIP programs currently available.
I find fring is the cheapest option for me from my symbian mobile. fring supports Skype, GoogleTalk, Twitter, MSN and SIP so its easy to use across all the VoIP networks and you only need to download one application, they also have a very good support service.
This is the data usage according to frings website: http://www.fring.com/about/cost_saving/
"fring for Symbian phones consumes:
~ 8MB for a 60-minute VoIP call; (8MB is about R16 for an hour at current rates)
0.05 KB per instant message;
~ 10KB per hour connectivity
fring for Windows handsets consumes:
~ 14.5MB for a 60 minute VoIP call;
16.2 KB per hour connectivity
fring for Symbian UIQ handsets consumes:
~ 8.6MB for a 60 minute VoIP call;
32.1 per hour connectivity"
Btw "Just make sure that you are not caught unawares by your mobile operator." http://blog.fring.com/southafrica/?p=14 Read your contract very carefully.
I would personally recommend getting a prepaid number for any VoIP related calls. Better safe than sorry
Frankie
06-08-2007, 07:07 AM
I've just started using VC prepaid with my HSDPA ExpressCard data modem and it seems to work just fine for Skype and Skype-Out, even though for some reason (being investigated by V3G) my SIM card is not permitting full HSDPA speed (only 366 DL and 58 UL).
I'm using the 2G for R389 option and and monitoring my account on the VC web site shows only data use with no indication that VOIP was used.
I'm using the 2G for R389 option and and monitoring my account on the VC web site shows only data use with no indication that VOIP was used.
kaspaas
26-11-2007, 07:24 AM
Skype is releasing a "mobile version" with the cellular operators.
Are we going to get the good news in South-Africa as well?
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/allfeatures/3skypephone/?cm_mmc=Acceleration-_-Email-_-Q4_Nov_NL_Win_en_ROW_20071123_s2-_-3skypephone
Are we going to get the good news in South-Africa as well?
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/allfeatures/3skypephone/?cm_mmc=Acceleration-_-Email-_-Q4_Nov_NL_Win_en_ROW_20071123_s2-_-3skypephone
Iam3G
26-11-2007, 08:57 AM
Skype is releasing a "mobile version" with the cellular operators.
Are we going to get the good news in South-Africa as well?
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/allfeatures/3skypephone/?cm_mmc=Acceleration-_-Email-_-Q4_Nov_NL_Win_en_ROW_20071123_s2-_-3skypephone
Isnt there already a mobile version? I've seen many of my customers having it on their phones.
Are we going to get the good news in South-Africa as well?
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/allfeatures/3skypephone/?cm_mmc=Acceleration-_-Email-_-Q4_Nov_NL_Win_en_ROW_20071123_s2-_-3skypephone
Isnt there already a mobile version? I've seen many of my customers having it on their phones.
LandyMan
26-11-2007, 09:12 AM
I use fring on my TyTN and N95 ... works a charm!
vodacom3g
26-11-2007, 10:21 AM
I use fring on my TyTN and N95 ... works a charm!
I'm surprised Skype did not just buy Fring. The Fring codecs are much better than Skype.
I'm surprised Skype did not just buy Fring. The Fring codecs are much better than Skype.
Vember
26-11-2007, 10:26 AM
yip fring is it... works across skype msn , and others too.
vodacom3g
27-11-2007, 01:12 AM
yip fring is it... works across skype msn , and others too.
I visited them a while ago and was impressed by the company and the technology they developed. A class above all the other VoIP attempts.
I visited them a while ago and was impressed by the company and the technology they developed. A class above all the other VoIP attempts.
morebroadband
27-11-2007, 04:49 AM
I would have thought a better questions would have been " Why has Vodaphone/Vodacom not bought the rights to their codec (Fringe) and installed it on all their phones..?"
The writing is on the wall, and instead of Skype making money from their customers, why not do this themselves?
The writing is on the wall, and instead of Skype making money from their customers, why not do this themselves?
3GisDaMan
28-11-2007, 01:25 PM
I installed Nimbuzz (http://www.nimbuzz.com/)a while ago on my phone, and it's a spectacular piece of software.
On your phone it's a IM client, and you can stay logged into MSN, GTalk, Skype, etc all on the same client.
You can then click on a contact, and in stead of sending them a message, you also have the option to phone them. I phoned people in Canada from my cell, and connected to them via MSN running on their PC.
The quality was brilliant, as your cell make a local call to a local 011 number, and if you have free minutes, you can use them. So, by making use of my free minutes, I made a free call form my cell to a PC overseas. If the other person also run the client, you can connect to their cell phone for the price of a local call for you, and a local call (in the foreign country) for them.
http://www.nimbuzz.com/
:rolleyes:
On your phone it's a IM client, and you can stay logged into MSN, GTalk, Skype, etc all on the same client.
You can then click on a contact, and in stead of sending them a message, you also have the option to phone them. I phoned people in Canada from my cell, and connected to them via MSN running on their PC.
The quality was brilliant, as your cell make a local call to a local 011 number, and if you have free minutes, you can use them. So, by making use of my free minutes, I made a free call form my cell to a PC overseas. If the other person also run the client, you can connect to their cell phone for the price of a local call for you, and a local call (in the foreign country) for them.
http://www.nimbuzz.com/
:rolleyes:
LandyMan
28-11-2007, 01:55 PM
Sounds exactly like Fring
3GisDaMan
28-11-2007, 02:08 PM
i won't know. I never tried Fring, as Nimbuzz worked extremely well, so no need to try anything else.
DanDDT
25-12-2007, 09:46 AM
hi there
Can anyone advise me as to Skype cap usage plz. How much of my 3 gig monthly cap on my pc will regular weekly chats with someone in the Netherlands eat?
Can anyone advise me as to Skype cap usage plz. How much of my 3 gig monthly cap on my pc will regular weekly chats with someone in the Netherlands eat?
vodacom3g
25-12-2007, 11:47 AM
hi there
Can anyone advise me as to Skype cap usage plz. How much of my 3 gig monthly cap on my pc will regular weekly chats with someone in the Netherlands eat?
Sounds like you're using ADSL?
Grab a calculator and work on an average of 40kb/s (in each direction).
Can anyone advise me as to Skype cap usage plz. How much of my 3 gig monthly cap on my pc will regular weekly chats with someone in the Netherlands eat?
Sounds like you're using ADSL?
Grab a calculator and work on an average of 40kb/s (in each direction).
DanDDT
02-01-2008, 09:58 AM
Thanks! That helps a lot. Adding video to the chat will tripple it probably eh?
ajax
02-01-2008, 10:42 AM
hi there
Can anyone advise me as to Skype cap usage plz. How much of my 3 gig monthly cap on my pc will regular weekly chats with someone in the Netherlands eat?
Install Netmeter - it's free. Then monitor the upload/download live and do the math.
Can anyone advise me as to Skype cap usage plz. How much of my 3 gig monthly cap on my pc will regular weekly chats with someone in the Netherlands eat?
Install Netmeter - it's free. Then monitor the upload/download live and do the math.