Five of the best CMSs

Been fiddling with Drupal. I'm surprised here - there was no mention of DotNetNuke being a .Net based platform.

I am totally disillusioned with Drupal forum options. I'm running v6 and the forum integration is pathetic to say the least. Has anyone had any experience with combining drupal with another forum? phpBB or vBulletin? I seriously don't want users to have to log in twice to view regular content and take part in the forum... any suggestions?
 
@Nelwa

Care to elaborate on exactly why you say Joomla sucks? Considering that it's the most popular and awarded CMS in the world with arguably the most active user community, I'm interested to hear your views?

Is it the architecture? The templating? The plugin system? What is it about Joomla that makes you say it sucks?

Personally, I think Joomla is awesome...there's room for improvement...but awesome when in the hands of somebody who knows what they're doing. There's literally NOTHING you cannot do with Joomla and it has really taken the schlepp out of writing sophisticated web applications. It has so many components and modules which often provide you with a solid base from which to start and modify stuff to suit your needs.
 
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Firstly let me say that I have never installed Joomla, I just managed a couple of sites on behalf of clients who had a joomla setup...but my experience of it were absolutely revolting...I agree with everything on these pages:

http://www.ahyap.com/blog/joomla-sucks.php

http://peteashton.com/2007/05/joomla_sucks_donkey_cock/

http://www.sajalkayan.com/drupal-rulez-joomls-sux.html

I also do not use any of the other CMS's but have looked at them, and they are all pretty good. I use an in house developed CMS for all my clients, as I find that most South Africans have almost no computer skills - other than typing in word and opening "google"...our CMS is unfortunately closed source and only available to clients, but it is much simpler and a lot more versatile than anything out there.
 
Drupal

In the past 4 weeks I have (from no previous experience) got a website up and running using Drupal. There is fantastic support in the form of videos from youtube and over 2000 modules from the drupal community.
An absolutely fantastic cms.
 
nelwa said:
Firstly let me say that I have never installed Joomla, I just managed a couple of sites on behalf of clients who had a joomla setup...but my experience of it were absolutely revolting...I agree with everything on these pages:

http://www.ahyap.com/blog/joomla-sucks.php

http://peteashton.com/2007/05/joomla_sucks_donkey_cock/

http://www.sajalkayan.com/drupal-rulez-joomls-sux.html

I also do not use any of the other CMS's but have looked at them, and they are all pretty good. I use an in house developed CMS for all my clients, as I find that most South Africans have almost no computer skills - other than typing in word and opening "google"...our CMS is unfortunately closed source and only available to clients, but it is much simpler and a lot more versatile than anything out there.
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Those comments about Joomla are based on the 1.0.x series and so are not even worth responding to as almost all components are now forced to be 1.5 compliant. It's dead-easy to add custom PHP to Joomla so this outjie that's Joomla bashing is talking through his nought. A simple module called mod_php lets you put your own PHP in any module position.

Again, those links you supplied are very dated and most of their grievances with Joomla have been comprehensively addressed in the latest version. Considering that a Joomla installation gives your client the peace of mind that when they do outgrow their simple notepad requirements, that the system which they've become familiar with is able to scale to meet their needs.
 
I have been using Joomla for two months now, and think it's great. Only issue have had so far, was easily fixed by visiting the Joomla forums and Google.

I could be wrong, but why can't you add php code to a Joomla site?. All the files are there, if you want to delve into the code. Which is another thing I like about it, if the article is not displaying the way you like, you can just edit the raw html code to fix it.

The only other issue I had was with some PHP settings, but found a fix within minutes. I find that every time I use Joomla, I discover how powerful it can be, and I learn more about PHP and MySQL running XAMPP on localhost.

I have not worked with Drupal, WordPress, or any of the other CMSes out there, but I am sure that they also have their purpose. Also, I think it's a bit unfair to compare Joomla, or any other open-source CMS to a closed source, in-house, custom-designed one, Nelwa. Just MHO.

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nelwa said:
Firstly let me say that I have never installed Joomla, I just managed a couple of sites on behalf of clients who had a joomla setup...but my experience of it were absolutely revolting...I agree with everything on these pages:

I also do not use any of the other CMS's but have looked at them, and they are all pretty good. I use an in house developed CMS for all my clients, as I find that most South Africans have almost no computer skills - other than typing in word and opening "google"...our CMS is unfortunately closed source and only available to clients, but it is much simpler and a lot more versatile than anything out there.
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How I would love to believe you :p
But evidently since I'm not yet one of your clients I can't... of course, you could give us a linky to one of your clients sites ?
Perhaps you can run a quick comparison for us - yours vs drupal for example...
How is your forum module?
I see you have a patient management system - I read about ICD10 - do you do HL7? If not, why not?
Thansk in advance...
 
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CritiKill said:
Those comments about Joomla are based on the 1.0.x series and so are not .....

Again, those links you supplied are very dated ......
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Especially with Joomla 1.6, its going to be easier and more powerful than ever before. Awesome new ACL in 1.6
 
I'm sorry, but I can't take any article about CMSs seriously that does not mention Umbraco. This truly is one of the better CMSs around.

Wordpress is not a true CMS, it's a blogging engine with CMS-like features.
 
Word Press is best (for me anyway).

Good post MyBB!. I have to agree fully with the rankings, Wordpress is very rich with features, but easy to use. I've tried to get my head around Joomla's model, but failed. I tried Drupal for a short while, but also didn't blow me away.

Being a .NET developer, one would think that DotnetNuke would tickle my fancy. Tried that too and didn't like it. It takes alot for a .NET guy to go for a php based solution :p

I've got 2 WordPress installations, one is a blog at http://blog.notions.co.za and the other is a shopping cart of my wife's new startup hobby at http://www.notions.co.za. The shopping cart is just another plugin for WordPress and there are hundreds of plugins and free themes.

The blog and the shopping cart can co-exist but I wanted to keep my tech and her hobby separate ;)
 
In other words ...

nelwa said:
Firstly let me say that I have never installed Joomla,
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I don't know. It was just an outburst. BUT ...

nelwa said:
I just managed a couple of sites on behalf of clients who had a joomla setup...but my experience of it were absolutely revolting...I agree with everything on these pages:

http://www.ahyap.com/blog/joomla-sucks.php

http://peteashton.com/2007/05/joomla_sucks_donkey_cock/

http://www.sajalkayan.com/drupal-rulez-joomls-sux.html

I also do not use any of the other CMS's but have looked at them, and they are all pretty good. I use an in house developed CMS for all my clients, as I find that most South Africans have almost no computer skills - other than typing in word and opening "google"...our CMS is unfortunately closed source and only available to clients, but it is much simpler and a lot more versatile than anything out there.
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I know how to use Google, so let me quickly search for "Joomla sucks" and then post some links.

Kthx
 
I think DotNetNuke (DNN) is too often overlooked. Maybe because it's on the .Net framework. AFAIK it is possibly the best opensource CMS around. I have looked at Drupal, Joomla and Wordpress. While they are quite powerful the learning curve is quite big. Also I think the WYSIWYG approach in DNN makes for a quick learn too. Hosting requirements for DNN are a quite a bit more due to the fact that it is MS based and needs a Windows server and MS SQL or MS SQL express. The overall experience with DNN has been way better than with the others.
 
deweyzeph said:
I'm sorry, but I can't take any article about CMSs seriously that does not mention Umbraco. This truly is one of the better CMSs around.
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Wow... that's the most valuable piece of information there so far - at least for me - thanks deweyzeph...
 
Joomla is awesome but for typical users, it takes them an age to learn. Very frustrating if you're on the end helping them out.
 
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