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Sixty lashes for the Saudi journalist accused of being involved in 'sex talk' TV show
Albereth
Honorary Master
All one can say is "What a ****er"! He's just jealous that Mrs Judge wouldn't put out.
InTheCube
Expert Member
Before all you sex freaks out there start criticising, please remember that in Saudi Arabia, there are almost no sex crimes, molestation, abuse, harrassment, or rapings. In fact, the overall crime rate is close to 0. It is one of the safest countries in the world. This is because Islamic shariah law is strictly implemented, and punishment for such crimes is severe.
Compare this to the AIDS epidemic in RSA, the shocking rape and sex crimes rates, daily murders, etc...
Albereth
Honorary Master
Dude - having sex isn't always a crime. Although I must agree that a complete abscence of sex will result in 0 crime eventually.
Being a loon and dishing out lashes to someone who wasn't even involved is seriously retarded. And living in a country where you get lashed just to create a deterrent is no better than living in Sodom or Gomorrah.
Saudi Arabia is just the extreme opposite of S.A. You could curtail crime in S.A to near zero but then individual liberties would be lost and we might as well be robots. The answer is somewhere in between.
60 lashes as a deterrent is moronic
davemc
Executive Member
Fine example of laws actually being implemented.
The_Pumpkin_King
Jedi Master
WHIP IT! whip it real good!
can she put the whipping in her sex show?
can she put the whipping in her sex show?
Oh no, there's plenty sex crime in Saudi Arabia, it's just a matter of perspective is all.
Much of what to us isn't criminal behaviour - i.e sexual relations between consenting adults, be they male, female, and any particular combination you chose - will get you stoned / flogged / thrown in jail, merely on suspicion that you might be involved. Hell, just talking to a woman / man you're not married to is looking for serious trouble, especially if you're the woman. The recent case of the South African woman sentanced in I think it was Dubhai, based on the allegation she'd had extra-marital sex comes to mind.
On the other hand, many things that will get you thrown in prison here are everyday common occurences in Saudi. Little things like arranged marriages of minors, spousal rape, assault & battery, "honour" killings (assuming you can't afford the blood debt, or your family doesn't forgive you), and so on.
So yes, there's a lot less petty crime in Saudi, chopping off peoples hands tends to discourage bag snatching and the like.
Unfortunately, it's very much a myth that there's no serious crime in Saudi, just a lot of it isn't considered crime there, and the price you pay in terms of minor things like protection before the law, due process, even the hint of a possibility of equal treatment before the law, basic human rights, and so on makes you wonder if they're any better off.
I mean, you can chose the (very real, unfortunately) fear of running foul of a criminal act in this country, but where your basic human rights are protected and enshrined in the constitution.
Or you can live in a country where your purse is pretty safe, but where it's acceptable for your preteen daughter to be married off to a senior citizen, and where stoning a woman to death because she's accused of having sex out of wedlock is considered justice.
Personally, I know which I prefer
Oh no, there's plenty sex crime in Saudi Arabia, it's just a matter of perspective is all.
Much of what to us isn't criminal behaviour - i.e sexual relations between consenting adults, be they male, female, and any particular combination you chose - will get you stoned / flogged / thrown in jail, merely on suspicion that you might be involved. Hell, just talking to a woman / man you're not married to is looking for serious trouble, especially if you're the woman. The recent case of the South African woman sentanced in I think it was Dubhai, based on the allegation she'd had extra-marital sex comes to mind.
On the other hand, many things that will get you thrown in prison here are everyday common occurences in Saudi. Little things like arranged marriages of minors, spousal rape, assault & battery, "honour" killings (assuming you can't afford the blood debt, or your family doesn't forgive you), and so on.
So yes, there's a lot less petty crime in Saudi, chopping off peoples hands tends to discourage bag snatching and the like.
Unfortunately, it's very much a myth that there's no serious crime in Saudi, just a lot of it isn't considered crime there, and the price you pay in terms of minor things like protection before the law, due process, even the hint of a possibility of equal treatment before the law, basic human rights, and so on makes you wonder if they're any better off.
I mean, you can chose the (very real, unfortunately) fear of running foul of a criminal act in this country, but where your basic human rights are protected and enshrined in the constitution.
Or you can live in a country where your purse is pretty safe, but where it's acceptable for your preteen daughter to be married off to a senior citizen, and where stoning a woman to death because she's accused of having sex out of wedlock is considered justice.
Personally, I know which I prefer
Yeah, that. I believe a lot of sex crimes aren't reported either. The victim is penalised. This failure to report sex crime would distort stats.
I want a GTI
Senior Member
Brilliant.
Instill morals into the public!
Shariah law FTW!
Instill morals into the public!
Shariah law FTW!
TheHiveMind
Banned
You cannot "instill morals" via threats. That's not morality, that's a farce ^_^
This has been overturned now - King stepped in.
semiautomatix
Honorary Master
Saudi Arabia is just the extreme opposite of S.A. You could curtail crime in S.A to near zero but then individual liberties would be lost and we might as well be robots. The answer is somewhere in between.
60 lashes as a deterrent is moronic
Agreed:
And most pertinent to Arab societies:
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