South Africans fleeced by taxes

The biggest problem is we get NOTHING for all the tax we pay, NOTHING at all.

All the years of corruption and living the high life on tax payers money is coming back to haunt guvament now and the only way to make up for it is to increase taxes..vicious circle..
 
zesto said:
The biggest problem is we get NOTHING for all the tax we pay, NOTHING at all.

All the years of corruption and living the high life on tax payers money is coming back to haunt guvament now and the only way to make up for it is to increase taxes..vicious circle..
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It is true - in Sweden they pay - 60% tax, as much as that, but they get free healthcare, 2 months of paid holidays per year, free education, great social services (pension, unemployment) and so on. In SA, you pay 40% (and more) and you still need to have a security company protect your home, have burglar bars/electric fences, have medical aid, have retirement annuities, pay for ESKOM/TELKOM/GOVT bonuses etc.
 
Have any of you every lived elsewhere in the world?

I agree it is bad, but don't be too quick to complain until you have tried to earn a living elsewhere.

The benefits of living abroad to me, do not include my financial situation, but simple more security and less corruption.

If I was to move it would be for those reasons.
 
Garyvdh said:
Have any of you every lived elsewhere in the world?

I agree it is bad, but don't be too quick to complain until you have tried to earn a living elsewhere.

The benefits of living abroad to me, do not include my financial situation, but simple more security and less corruption.

If I was to move it would be for those reasons.
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Lived in Zambia, Swaziland, Botswana and the UK.

Do i qualify to keep on complaining?
 
Garyvdh said:
Have any of you every lived elsewhere in the world?

I agree it is bad, but don't be too quick to complain until you have tried to earn a living elsewhere.

The benefits of living abroad to me, do not include my financial situation, but simple more security and less corruption.

If I was to move it would be for those reasons.
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YES. Everywhere else - in the 1st world at least, I'd earn 5-10x my current salary and pay less tax - percentage wise.
 
PeterCH said:
It is true - in Sweden they pay - 60% tax, as much as that, but they get free healthcare, 2 months of paid holidays per year, free education, great social services (pension, unemployment) and so on. In SA, you pay 40% (and more) and you still need to have a security company protect your home, have burglar bars/electric fences, have medical aid, have retirement annuities, pay for ESKOM/TELKOM/GOVT bonuses etc.
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Well we were supposed to be the Sweden of Africa. Didn't quite work out did it :o
 
We get taxed nothing compared to europe and live a far better lifestyle. The "hidden" taxes like "healthcare"(medical aids) means we get healthcare for example. What a boring bunch of drama queens.
 
Therooster said:
We get taxed nothing compared to europe and live a far better lifestyle. The "hidden" taxes like "healthcare"(medical aids) means we get healthcare for example. What a boring bunch of drama queens.
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I smell a troll..
 
Therooster said:
We get taxed nothing compared to europe and live a far better lifestyle. The "hidden" taxes like "healthcare"(medical aids) means we get healthcare for example. What a boring bunch of drama queens.
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Should have known it won't be long until some racist loony starts posting in this thread.
 
Therooster said:
We get taxed nothing compared to europe and live a far better lifestyle. The "hidden" taxes like "healthcare"(medical aids) means we get healthcare for example. What a boring bunch of drama queens.
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:confused:
 
Zenbaas said:
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Why confused ? In France you pay close to 60% tax. Here we pay less than half on average. To then say we need to count things like medical aid as a tax , and the say "but we get nothing for our tax" is stupid. You pay for medical aid then you get medical aid. Firstly it's wrong to present it as a tax , but if you do to pretend that you get nothing for it ?

STUPID ! Typical head in the sand pessimism !
 
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I'm curious, which countries have no import duties, no road taxes, no airport taxes, no toll roads, no sales tax, no property rates and so on?

killadoob said:
I was a bit young but just as matter of interest what was tax like under the old government.
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Much higher. As I recall essentially a similar set of brackets, but they were allowed to creep so that as the years went by you would end up in steadily higher brackets purely from inflation-linked increases. They were also structured so an increase pushing you into a higher bracket could actually reduce your after tax income. To top it off if you were married they combined the husband and wife's income to determine your tax bracket.
 
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noxibox said:
I'm curious, which countries have no import duties, no road taxes, no airport taxes, no toll roads, no sales tax, no property rates and so on?


Much higher. As I recall essentially a similar set of brackets, but they were allowed to creep so that as the years went by you would end up in steadily higher brackets purely from inflation-linked increases. They were also structured so an increase pushing you into a higher bracket could actually reduce your after tax income. To top it off if you were married they combined the husband and wife's income to determine your tax bracket.
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Bwahahaha...good work.

Cynics Pwned !
 
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