Threat of a jail sentence will work for anti-competitive practices

Jail who? The CEO and and all management, the whole board and all shareholders?

Every shareholder is guilty also. The way the business is run by management and shareholders, makes them all responsible.

Jailing everyone is no solution. Fine each and every individual or make an entire year's net profit the fine. Hurt the shareholders. They are hiding behind management.
 
Jail who? The CEO and and all management, the whole board and all shareholders?

Every shareholder is guilty also. The way the business is run by management and shareholders, makes them all responsible.

Jailing everyone is no solution. Fine each and every individual or make an entire year's net profit the fine. Hurt the shareholders. They are hiding behind management.

That would leave it wide open for the government to abuse. Would turn into another trough for the piggies to slurp at.
 
The success of the Competition Commission's work should not be measured only by the fines imposed by the Competition Tribunal, commission head Shan Ramburuth said on Tuesday.

The success of the work of the competition authorities should be measured by, firstly, the extent to which it benefited consumers in terms of prices, quality, and the range of products offered, he told the National Assembly's economic development committee.

Secondly, particularly for an economy such as South Africa's, the number of new entrants to the market, he said.

Competition policy and competition law had to create spaces for new entrants. This meant breaking the stranglehold of the "old boys club" in different markets.

The commission intended to put considerably more effort into monitoring and evaluating the results and impact of its work, Ramburuth said.

Several MPs raised concern the fines imposed were insufficient deterrent.

They said businesses simply paid the fines and carried on their anti-competitive behaviour, with the consumer having to continue paying excessive prices for products.

Ramburuth conceded that sometimes it was more worthwhile for a business to continue with the anti-competitive behaviour, because they made more profit out of that, even if they were fined.

"Certainly there are instances where the fine is not a deterrent. People just merely incorporate it into their costs. They budget for it up front," he said.

However, the R250 million fine recently imposed on Sasol, for example, was "not a slap on the wrist".

"It's a reasonable fine. People might think otherwise.

"What is always first prize for us, is that that anti-competitive behaviour that led to higher prices stops. And inevitably always, both in our settlements and in orders of the tribunal, it's not only the fine that is ordered.

"What is also ordered and what is an important part of the settlement, is a description of what the behaviour was, and a commitment that that behaviour will never occur again.

"That's a non-negotiable part of our settlement."

Uncovering anti-competitive practices or collusion that had been hidden for decades, in some instances, was also not a small thing.

Ramburuth said it should be remembered that the fines in the current Competition Act were not meant to punish people.

"It's not a punishment fine, it's a deterrent fine... like a speeding fine... it must deter you, it must be a disincentive. And that's how our Act is constructed. It's not criminal law, it's civil law. It's [like] these are administrative penalties. That's what they are, they're not meant to be punishments."

The draft Competition Amendment Bill seemed to be a move to add the punishment element to it.

"You may be aware, [the draft includes] a jail sentence of up to ten years for individuals who might be involved in anti-competitive behaviour, and I think the thinking behind it is that will be a proper disincentive.

"If people think they are going to jail, then they're certainly not going to continue with this kind of behaviour," he said.

Responding to suggestions that the competition authorities "cap" product prices for a period along with the fines, Ramburuth said the commission wanted to create high levels of competition and fairness in a market place. Its role was not to fix or regulate prices, but rather to free up the market.
 
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So for example if Tokyo Sexwale got caught in anti-competitive practices he'd spend 10 years in jail.. yeah right.
 
those idiots still don't understand why anti-competitive practices occurred ........

restriction of licensing can bring your communication charge down?

complex labour laws, high import tariffs, high taxes, high salaries, strike, AA/BEE, exchange control, high crime rate etc ...... will bring every prices down?

wake up, only free market model will work for "prices down"

it is the government responsibility to provide "free market" platform.
 
Bring it on.

They rip the public off for 100 million and get fined 10 million.

The threat of even a week with the 27's and 29's in Polsmoor will make them extremely cautious.
 
Telkom can get slapped with what amounts to a 1% fine for conducting a 250% rape of SA for 15years - oh come on !!!

VC & MTN get away with 500% rape for 8 years, and still no clear end in sight ...

jail is what's needed. You can start with Alan Knott-Speak.
 
Our jails are over crowded as it is....
Provided they get no special privileges it would be a quite suitable place for such offenders.
Imagine Mr Big Shot squeezed between the 26's and 28's.
 
Jail who? The CEO and and all management, the whole board and all shareholders?
No excuses here like "I did not know." As the CEO is supposed to know. It is his duty to know what is going on and take remedial action if necessary. Ultimately he carries the can for the whole company.
 
That's wrong. They should all go to jail or all suffer financial penalties.

The CEO is merely the one doing what the board wants. The board does what the shareholders want.
 
anyone can tell to me, "which country will take the CEO or entire board in jail because of anti-competitive practices"?

the problem is, "anti-competitive behaviour" itself is a very difficult concept to define. What is anti-competitive behaviour? Anyone can define it?

The only solution of anti-competitive practices is to create a platform of "fair chances".

if not, by applying "jail sentence", most investors will leave SA. Be careful!
 
It's already "fair".

They said businesses simply paid the fines and carried on their anti-competitive behaviour, with the consumer having to continue paying excessive prices for products.

Ramburuth conceded that sometimes it was more worthwhile for a business to continue with the anti-competitive behaviour, because they made more profit out of that, even if they were fined.

"Certainly there are instances where the fine is not a deterrent. People just merely incorporate it into their costs. They budget for it up front," he said.

Now there is a jail term for individuals. Fair to any honest CEO, board member and shareholder. ;)

"You may be aware, [the draft includes] a jail sentence of up to ten years for individuals who might be involved in anti-competitive behaviour, and I think the thinking behind it is that will be a proper disincentive. http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=3326770&postcount=5
 
That's wrong. They should all go to jail or all suffer financial penalties.

The CEO is merely the one doing what the board wants. The board does what the shareholders want.

I don't remember the shareholders giving the Pioneer Foods board the right to price fix bread.

Criminal actions need to be duly prosecuted, and to hide behind "I was only doing my job" when what you are doing is illegal, is by no means acceptable.
 
The success of the Competition Commission's work should not be measured only by the fines imposed by the Competition Tribunal, commission head Shan Ramburuth said on Tuesday.

The success of the work of the competition authorities should be measured by, firstly, the extent to which it benefited consumers in terms of prices, quality, and the range of products offered, he told the National Assembly's economic development committee.

By those measures the mother of all fails then ? Only beneficiary to date has been treasury (and of course all the fat little piggies suckling on that sow)
 
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