Supertalent 128GB SSD (Indilinx) FTM28GX25H

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i have read all the articles on anandtech relating to SSD

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=1

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631

http://anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3667&p=1

Needless to say, I have learnt a LOT

After reading the articles, Im not prepared to go with anything with a samsung controller, and the intel drives are waaaaay too expensive here. not an option

Im left with OCZ and Super Talent. I know all about OCZ as Ananadtech.com included them in the original articles, but nothing on these Super Talent drives.

I did google, but I find the review rather lacking compared to anandtech, so I turn to you all for some advice please.

What can you tell me about the above mentioned drive? Specifically, doesn it come with TRIM supported? How about random read/write access times?

Im referring specifically to the Ultra Drive GX 128GB

http://www.supertalent.com/products/...ype=UltraDrive

many thanks
 
I think TRIM is supported

On the UltraDrive's homepage they mention a "Performance Refresh Tool" which is, afaik, essentially TRIM support.

Also on their firmware upgrade page they link to a "Release Notes" pdf that states that they have added TRIM in the newer firmware.

Do you know whether this drive is available in SA?
 
thanks guys

I was originally looking at the OCZ 120GB (Indilinx) (OCZSSD2-1VTX120G) but they are pretty scarce and can only source from JHB at R5300 incl VAT

128GB, with the same controller for R3.9 k looks awesome to me

I waiting on confirmation that Frontosa indeed have stock... its marked as "coming" on their latest price list
 
I have a ST FTM28GX25H, there is a firmware update 1819 that supports the TRIM command (windows 7), drive comes standard with F/W 1517
 
I still think the intel is better value. The 80GB x25m G2 is R2800 now.

The Write performance is slower, but even under crazy levels of load, it remains fast.

The same cant be said for Indilinx chipsets. R1100 extra for something slightly faster, some of the time, does not quite make sense for me. if it was R500 difference, then it would be worth the extra space. But R1100 buys you 1.5TB in a normal drive.
 
I still think the intel is better value. The 80GB x25m G2 is R2800 now.

The Write performance is slower, but even under crazy levels of load, it remains fast.

The same cant be said for Indilinx chipsets. R1100 extra for something slightly faster, some of the time, does not quite make sense for me. if it was R500 difference, then it would be worth the extra space. But R1100 buys you 1.5TB in a normal drive.

If you read the reviews the Intel controller beats the Indilix. The performance especially comes in random reads and writes.

Is Intel still my overall recommendation? Of course. The random write performance is simply too good to give up and it's only in very specific cases that the 80MB/s sequential write speed hurts you. Is Indilinx a close runner up? Absolutely. It's truly a lower cost alternative. Am I relieved to be done with this article? You betcha.

http://anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631&p=27

Toshiba drives are also worth looking out for. I have their 64GB version in a netbook but larger versions - upto 512GB will soon be available.
 
If you read the reviews the Intel controller beats the Indilix. The performance especially comes in random reads and writes.

Predominately small block sizes (4K), TG I use a 128K blocksize.

I thought that Intel Pulled TRIM support firmware due to drives bricking ?
(Just checked intel site, firmware upgrade still "This download is no longer available")
 
Predominately small block sizes (4K), TG I use a 128K blocksize.

I thought that Intel Pulled TRIM support firmware due to drives bricking ?
(Just checked intel site, firmware upgrade still "This download is no longer available")

Even without TRIM the Intels don't slow down as much as the other drives and random read/write is what slows the system down at the end, when your drive is close to being full.

I'm sure they'll resolve their issues.

BTW Toshiba is looking good:
http://www.toshiba.com/taec/components/Generic/SSD_Myths.pdf
http://www.toshiba.com/taec/Catalog/Family.do?familyid=7&subfamilyid=900314
 
Even without TRIM the Intels don't slow down as much as the other drives and random read/write is what slows the system down at the end, when your drive is close to being full.

The latest OCZ ? Indilinx firmware supports background garbage collection (page optimisation rewrites). Part of the Intel speed comes from custom drivers for windows (but not everyone uses windows :rolleyes: )

If I was running a SSD on a notebook/desktop with windows, I would go with the Intel SLC (bit pricey though :( )

Problem with Intel however is their rather small capacities


SSD's are a rapidly moving target currently (witness the shocking "used" performance of the J Micron based drives only a while ago)
 
Where can you buy the Intel X25 G2's in SA?
 
2,020 Intel SSDSA2MH080G2 SSD ( Intel X25-M Mainstream MLC series SATA Solid-State Drive ) , 34nm , 2.5" 80Gb , SATA2 , read : 250mb/sec / write 70mb/sec

2.1k at frontosa but that 70mb write is shocking in my opinion. The only good thing about intel ssd's are the slc drives, their mlc drives are old and slow.

G.skill, ocz and super talent wipe the floor with the intel mlc drives.

70mb write what a joke compared to the 200mb the other offer.
 
cant agree with you more killa :)

when you paying R25/GB and get a write speed of 70 MB/sec VS paying R26/GB for the Super Talent and get 195 MB/sec

yes the intel is better in the 4KB random write/read, but they not THAT far ahead anymore... not with the new generation controlelrs from Indilinx + plus TRIM support

personally, 80GB is borderline on size as well...

I have a 150GB partition that I use for windows, so to go down to 80GB is gonna be a serious squeeze for me! I know some people buying 40GB drives... WTF

that like, windows, office and one or two games and its FULL! :confused:
 
I have a ST FTM28GX25H, there is a firmware update 1819 that supports the TRIM command (windows 7), drive comes standard with F/W 1517

is there anyone in Cape Town that owns one of these things? Even if its the smaller/bigger model, I would love to come and have a look at this thing in action...

You better chain down your PC :D
 
The main speed boosts in SSDs comes from the random performance and
latency, not sustained performance. That you only notice when copying files

I would rather have my apps launch faster, be more responsive etc. That's why I would prefer the Intel
 
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