New .za regulations in the pipeline

does that mean that individuals can no longer register domain names themselves?
 
In addition, registries will be required to substantially automate the registration processes, so that names can be registered online quicker and more easily. This is an important measure which will upgrade .za to operate at a level on par with the leading domains such as .com, .net, .de (Germany) and .uk (United Kingdom).
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About time! Can't wait for this to be implemented.
 
“While there may be cases where it is justifiable for a registrar to list itself as the holder of a name which belongs to its client, such practice is unfair and unethical if the domain name holder never consented to such an arrangement.”
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Yep, so fraud, where the victim initially consented, becomes legal. Many people do not read EULA's or all of a contract.

NO ISP can be allowed to continue the fraud.

Claiming the name of a client is FRAUD!!!

In addition, ZA DNA may be able to force a registrar to delete names belonging to cyber-squatters where the registrar is found to be hosting cyber-squatter names. This will help protect the .za namespace better from being used by Internet thugs to send spam and attack the Internet infrastructure worldwide.
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All registries should strictly apply the laws pertaining to Trademarks, Copyright and Intellectual Property rights. An average programmer could create such a program.

If an applicant does not meet the criteria in all three cases, the application must be rejected.
 
They should stop that email submission crap and have a Godaddy type registration system where the client is fully in control of the domain details and name servers and they do not need familiarity of obscure text-file editing in order to move their domain as is currently the case.

That text-file you need to edit to update/register domains really annoys me as it is so old-school!!
 
Ok so what is the requirements in the Draft for me to be able to register domains going to be?

I design websites part time in my own name (ie. not a registered business) and clients ain't going to be happy if I up the domain registration/renewal costs because I now have to work through a third party who also wants to make a profit.

And the costs of the audit fees and extra banking account and Cipro Annual returns will make my small profit disappear quickly....
And increasing the costs will mean I lose the clients to somebody else like all those Usumbuvo Youth Fund sponsored companies who offers a website design and hosting for R200. How can we compete with that? And best of all we can't register anymore to become service providers...

Now we get this knock also???
 
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Lightscribe said:
Yep, so fraud, where the victim initially consented, becomes legal. Many people do not read EULA's or all of a contract.

Claiming the name of a client is FRAUD!!!
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Only if it wasn't with consent of the client, and even then it's unethical and not fraud. One is a criminal offence, the other not.

Also saying that the client shouldn't be bound by the terms & conditions because they didn't read it (but agreed to it) is weird. A judge would laugh at you if you raised that argument in court.

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The current uniform system, althoug archaic according to some works pretty well. A criticism of the current system is the long waiting period for changes to propagate.

The current text system is also makes it easy to submit domain requests programmatically; no need for fancy APIs.

A major concern with the system proposed by ZADNS of a registry<->registrar<->domain owner is that registrars could charge what they want for domains. I think domains in the za space could become prohibitivly expensive for most people (like what happened in Namibia).

Currently the price is fixed at R50 for co domains and R200 for org domains, thus most South Africans can afford it.

If the new registrars provide pricing in that bracket then sure, we're all for it! A registrar with an e-mail interface like uniform would be nice, with the added bells & whistles of a web flashy thingy for the rest of us.

Oh and some new 2nd level names would be good, or the ability to register your own 2nd level domains.
 
Why sukkel with this if you can get a com, .net, .cc or similar up and running in minutes.

ZA DNS are shooting themselves in the foot.
 
nebbyneb said:
does that mean that individuals can no longer register domain names themselves?
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This is my concern as well. I don't use any ISP's, I do all my own DNS and I register my own domain names. I don't want some crappy ISP to get involved with my domain names, I'm perfectly capable of doing it on my own.

The last thing I want is an intermediary between me and Uniforum, I'd rather deal with them directly myself.
 
deweyzeph said:
The last thing I want is an intermediary between me and Uniforum, I'd rather deal with them directly myself.
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Look, it's jobs for the boys and another revenue stream for somebody who's "owed". Think about it. If these guys take R10 per domain per year and there's half a million .za domains, that's a cool R5M a year for sitting on your jack and doing squat.
 
I wonder how much they're planning to spend on implementing this.
R1bn? R2bn?

The licensing regulations seek to bridge this gap and give formal recognition through licenses to those entities that meet certain basic requirements.
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YAY! Now I need to have a license to register a freaking domain?
WTF?

I wonder what happens if I let my "You may register a domain name" license expire, of if I declare bankruptcy.

Suddenly my clients are floating in a sea of uncertainty, where they cannot initiate changes because they are not licensed, so they have to get hold of a company that is registered to make changes and be completely at their mercy.

Meh, whatever.

Instead of providing proper clear and concise regulatory procedure, and an efficient tribunal to resolve disputes, lets complicate matters further, and raise costs.

And, lets also pretend that the few instances of name theft and SPAM are the real reason behind these changes.

SPAM is not illegal, it's not even "controlled".
Name theft is always going to be an issue of conflict resolution based on regulations that will adapt and change.

Regarding the modernisation of the actual domain name registration process, go for it. The irony is that, it will now be easy to do the registration process, but, you will not be able to do it without a license.

And, if somebody abuses your license, suddenly you're in s***street.

Bwaaahahahahahahahaha.

This is like regulating the wind. Nobody likes the few farts that pass by, so, instead of ridiculing the serial farters and implementing laws that allow us to force them to get medical attention, we force all wind to run through a fart filter, and then have to pay for the fart filter maintenance, and suddenly that awesome cool summer breeze is gone.
 
davemc said:
This is like regulating the wind. Nobody likes the few farts that pass by, so, instead of ridiculing the serial farters and implementing laws that allow us to force them to get medical attention, we force all wind to run through a fart filter, and then have to pay for the fart filter maintenance, and suddenly that awesome cool summer breeze is gone.
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Bwahahahha, well said!
 
The scary part of this is that it opens the way for those who obtain licenses to registers domains (subject to 90% BEE ownership, and sufficient support to the ANC electioneering funds) will be able to require one to do all hosting with such a company - no more hosting on own servers...
 
deweyzeph said:
This is my concern as well. I don't use any ISP's, I do all my own DNS and I register my own domain names. I don't want some crappy ISP to get involved with my domain names, I'm perfectly capable of doing it on my own.

The last thing I want is an intermediary between me and Uniforum, I'd rather deal with them directly myself.
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+10000
Well said! I too do all my own registrations...who needs another body, more costs and more people who want to get rich off you doing zip for it?

The only reason I have some .za domains is because some local search engines will not accept a .com site !!! Most of mine are .com and I am happy with that quick registration process.

Why must this country ALWAYS re-invent the wheel I simply do not know!
Then you get GC on MNet slagging you if you are not 'positive' about SA!! Besides having nice weather and nature, what else is there to be positive about? You get screwed at every corner, be it banking, cost of food, ISP's, electricity, phones, you name it...you just get SCREWED!
I am an UN-proudly screwed South African! (pity we cant add their logo here)
 
I have to say as well that as archaic as it is, Uniforum's magic cookie accept/deny challenge update system is probably one of the most secure domain registry tools around. It is incredibly difficult to hijack a co.za domain precisely because the registrant, admin and technical contacts all have a say in any change to the domain.

If anyone got my Godaddy login details they could hijack my .com domains easily.
 
Dude

Do you even read the release?

The idea is to move to a VERY SIMILAR system to that employed by .com, .org and others.

Yes - you will need a licence if you want to engage directly with the registry BUT you can still register your own domains through a registrar in exactly the same way as you can with a .com etc.

davemc said:
Except that, once it's done, you won't be able to register at all without a license.
Do you even read the articles?
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If you don't like the idea - please let us know. The idea is to improve competition, stability and reliability. If you don't think it will achieve that - please let us know why instead of moaning and complaining.

There are no jobs for comms and no kick back - those involved do this out of commitment to the Internet as a whole.

We think it is a good idea, Uniforum have indicated they think it is a good idea. It we are that wrong - tell us why by submitting rational and logical submissions.

Poetry about summer breezes may be amusing but achieves very little!

;)
 
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