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arj
16-12-2009, 09:37 PM
Hi

Can anyone tell me how do I unlock the above -

Thx, help much appreciated:)

Ockie
16-12-2009, 09:51 PM
Did you buy it in the UK? South African issued handsets/modems may not be legally locked by law. If was bought overseas then you normally have to contact the overseas network where it was purchased from like Vodafone or Organge.

VodacomData, is there another way you know of?

arj
16-12-2009, 10:21 PM
Thx for reply

it was bought in south africa - when i put in a MTN sim card it doesn't pick up the network - the VMC software installed on the stick only picks up Vodacom - maybe i am doing something wrong

Sackboy
16-12-2009, 10:27 PM
Thx for reply

it was bought in south africa - when i put in a MTN sim card it doesn't pick up the network - the VMC software installed on the stick only picks up Vodacom - maybe i am doing something wrong
You have to use an alternative dashboard in place of VMC. It is software locked, but there are workarounds.

arj
16-12-2009, 10:35 PM
thank u, excuse the doofness, what are the work arounds and how do i get alternate software :)

much appreciated

Jola
16-12-2009, 10:46 PM
I used the Mobile Partner software for the E169 from the Huawei website on my E272.

Works fine, should work on the other Huawei modems.

arj
16-12-2009, 10:56 PM
thx, will try the download - do i look for a specific version

Jola
16-12-2009, 11:12 PM
I just used the latest XP/Vista version : http://www.huawei.com/mobileweb/en/doc/list.do?type=-1&id=4381

This worked for my E272, but I must warn you that you install this at your own risk.

I also have the software on a standard Vodafone K3565.

Sackboy
17-12-2009, 01:33 AM
I just used the latest XP/Vista version : http://www.huawei.com/mobileweb/en/doc/list.do?type=-1&id=4381

This worked for my E272, but I must warn you that you install this at your own risk.

I also have the software on a standard Vodafone K3565.
There are few options.


You can install another dashboard on your PC and use that instead of VMC lite. (no risk). Once this is installed it will contend with VMC, so you have to do a few tricks by either blocking the port or reassigning drive letters.

You can replace VMC Lite on your modem with a generic one. (more risk). No tricks necessary with this, and VMC will be gone.

[OUPA]MrNutz
17-12-2009, 03:37 AM
Sitting with the exact same thing - have a zte k3520-z unit.

I also want to run mtn simcard in the thing - but erm - its locked! (so much for 082 155 telling me that the local vodacare can unlock it for me , which they couldn't do , due to a lack of supported models :rolleyes:

I guess mobile partner might void the warranty of the thing :(

ginggs
17-12-2009, 07:04 AM
MrNutz;3448456']I guess mobile partner might void the warranty of the thing :(
It probably just won't work, Mobile Partner is for Huawei modems, the K3565-Z is made by ZTE.

Jola
17-12-2009, 07:07 AM
It probably just won't work, Mobile Partner is for Huawei modems, the K3565-Z is made by ZTE.

Oops, missed that - sorry :sick:

I've got the Huawei K3565.

Ockie
17-12-2009, 07:19 AM
Some of the K3565 are from ZTE and some from Huawei. Not sure why. You should still be able to pick up MTN even with the VMC software shouldnt you? Cant you do a manual network selection with it? Sorry, have not used the VMC software for a such a long time as I use Linux.

Iam3G
17-12-2009, 07:52 AM
Some of the K3565 are from ZTE and some from Huawei. Not sure why. You should still be able to pick up MTN even with the VMC software shouldnt you? Cant you do a manual network selection with it? Sorry, have not used the VMC software for a such a long time as I use Linux.

Nope. The new VMC version tell you "Please insert correct SIM" when you use a different SIM other that Vodacom. Or some Dashboards say "No SIM Found".

Another workaround would be to remove the PIN form the MTN SIM and have a manual connection created in Windows for MTN.

Ockie
17-12-2009, 07:59 AM
arj, why dont u want to use Vodacom as your data ISP? Perhaps get a Vodacom prepaid sim and pop it in there. Not going to try and convince u, but am just curious as to why you prefer MTN over Vodacom.

[OUPA]MrNutz
17-12-2009, 08:30 AM
prolly the same boat in as i am - we have superior mtn coverage locally as to vodacom

VodacomData
17-12-2009, 08:31 AM
arj, why dont u want to use Vodacom as your data ISP? Perhaps get a Vodacom prepaid sim and pop it in there. Not going to try and convince u, but am just curious as to why you prefer MTN over Vodacom.

Opening a can of worms :whistle:

Ockie
17-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Opening a can of worms :whistle:

He posted in the Vodacom thread so therefore I have carte blanchE as to what questions I want to drill him with.

""shining spotlight into his eyes with electrical wires connected to his toes"" - WHY ARE YOU USING MTN FOR DATA INSTEAD OF VODA??!!!! TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME....WE KNOW WHERE TO FIND YOUR FAMILY!!!!! :D:D:D

Ockie
17-12-2009, 08:37 AM
MrNutz;3448646']prolly the same boat in as i am - we have superior mtn coverage locally as to vodacom

What area you in Oupa?

[OUPA]MrNutz
17-12-2009, 08:44 AM
Sasolburg - Vaaltriangle - 80km south of jhb - i stay about 900m away from my vodacom&mtn tower.

Ockie
17-12-2009, 08:49 AM
That is very odd. That close you should have very good signal with Vodacom. Is the tower diguised as a tree or is it just a plain BTS? The Vodacom towers normally look like Xmas or palm trees.

[OUPA]MrNutz
17-12-2009, 09:11 AM
plain tower

Ockie
17-12-2009, 09:12 AM
Most likely a MTN tower then...but does not rule out that it might be a shared site. Are you a Vodacom customer or do you use MTN for voice and data?

[OUPA]MrNutz
17-12-2009, 09:20 AM
vodacom customer for both voice and data - but lately service is rather unstable..

have logged a ticket with vodacom and answered their questionare - only advice they give - download latest VMC - hehe..as if that would fix all my issues :)

Ockie
17-12-2009, 09:24 AM
No I dont think that will. VMS does not really have a effect on speed or signal. However, a firmware update can sometimes improve the performance of a modem.

sand_man
17-12-2009, 09:28 AM
I got one of these modems for my partner. Spent a lot of time trying to unlock to but to no avail...

He likes to rotate sims depending on the coverage of the area he may be visiting at the time. This is no longer an option until we can debrand the modem.

Quite a nuisance and just 1 more reason why I have forfeited the right to mobile connectivity.

You pay a massive premium for the service and receive a modem with an inferior piece of software installed and a network lock!!!

[OUPA]MrNutz
17-12-2009, 09:38 AM
No I dont think that will. VMS does not really have a effect on speed or signal. However, a firmware update can sometimes improve the performance of a modem.

Did try the latest vmc - no improvment and als no new firmware updates yet for this unit.

had to always use the poynting high gain antenna for my e620 ...

ALOT of trees - but this should not be why MTN works and vodacom doesn't?

JimM
17-12-2009, 01:21 PM
Nope. The new VMC version tell you "Please insert correct SIM" when you use a different SIM other that Vodacom. Or some Dashboards say "No SIM Found".

Another workaround would be to remove the PIN form the MTN SIM and have a manual connection created in Windows for MTN.


If was sold in South Africa, how do Vodacom get around the ICASA rules on no network locks?

You can get a generic ZTE dashboard here: http://www.dc-unlocker.com/downloads/open/55

Download the second one for Windows only.

Note this is an ISO file and will need to be written to a CD. Once this is done you can simply insert the CD into your PC and it should autorun and install. If it doesn't simply explore the CD and go to the DATA folder and run SETUP.EXE and this will install an unbranded ZTE dashboard on you PC.

morkhans
17-12-2009, 01:28 PM
If was sold in South Africa, how do Vodacom get around the ICASA rules on no network locks?

It's not network locked. The dashboard software does not support anything other than a Vodacom SIM. You can use a SIM from another provider you just have to use their dash or a generic 3rd party dash.

JimM
17-12-2009, 01:51 PM
It's not network locked. The dashboard software does not support anything other than a Vodacom SIM. You can use a SIM from another provider you just have to use their dash or a generic 3rd party dash.


A sort of back door network lock!

I've just tried this: http://www.dc-unlocker.com/downloads/get/HwTBkKOv

As I say it's an ISO and you'll need to use something like Nero to burn it to a CD.

Once installed you can manually setup a MTN profile under Settings > Connection and then Add RAS config.

Sackboy
17-12-2009, 02:31 PM
arj, why dont u want to use Vodacom as your data ISP? Perhaps get a Vodacom prepaid sim and pop it in there. Not going to try and convince u, but am just curious as to why you prefer MTN over Vodacom.

Though I admire your persistence in advancing your employer's services, I have to say that he doesn't need a reason. In fact many people just want the option to use any network at their leisure. Sometimes the cost of the modem is a factor. Their is a reason phones in SA are not allowed to be 'locked' to any one network. Why Vodacom is allowed to put stumbling blocks on their modems is a mystery to me.

Ockie
17-12-2009, 02:45 PM
Though I admire your persistence in advancing your employer's services, I have to say that he doesn't need a reason. In fact many people just want the option to use any network at their leisure. Sometimes the cost of the modem is a factor. Their is a reason phones in SA are not allowed to be 'locked' to any one network. Why Vodacom is allowed to put stumbling blocks on their modems is a mystery to me.

As I said...not trying to convince him or make a sale or bring him over to Vodacom. It was merely a suggestion and the reason why I was enquiring why he does not use Vodacom was for my own curiousity and also perhaps it is something than can be rectified or worked on by Vodacom in future.

Regards:
OC

arj
17-12-2009, 08:42 PM
Hi Guys

Thank u all for the response - truly appreciate it - reason i want to get out of Vodacom is poor signal and not so grand reception and service - my bro was on Vodacom, endless issues, his switched to MTN , no dropped connections, signal worries etc etc I am on prepaid tho :p

check these out

http://www.dc-unlocker.com/forum/showthread.php?t=878
http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/ZTE+K3565-Z+%28Vodafone%29

what u guys think ? i can't seem to get that unbranded connection software recommended in the link :(

Sackboy
18-12-2009, 12:16 AM
As I said...not trying to convince him or make a sale or bring him over to Vodacom. It was merely a suggestion and the reason why I was enquiring why he does not use Vodacom was for my own curiousity and also perhaps it is something than can be rectified or worked on by Vodacom in future.

Regards:
OC
Well maybe if the devices were unlocked they would sell far more for a start. Secondly Vodacom GPRS/EDGE is appalling.

There, that's two things to put right. Did I mention the SPAM??;)

morkhans
18-12-2009, 06:20 AM
Well maybe if the devices were unlocked they would sell far more for a start. Secondly Vodacom GPRS/EDGE is appalling.

There, that's two things to put right. Did I mention the SPAM??;)

We've had this conversation before. The device is unlocked. There is no reason why Vodacom should have to support the SIMs of other providers in their dashboard software. :rolleyes:

ginggs
18-12-2009, 07:44 AM
We've had this conversation before. The device is unlocked. There is no reason why [-]Vodacom[/-] Vodafone should have to support the SIMs of other providers in their dashboard software. :rolleyes:
Fixed that.

True, there's no reason they should have automatic configurations for other network operators, but not allowing you to manually configure your own SIM is anti-competitive.

Ockie
18-12-2009, 08:30 AM
Sorry guys if I am a bit dof....but cant you just download the Mobile Partner from Huawei or ZTE and then use that?

sand_man
18-12-2009, 08:32 AM
Nope. Device is hard locked.

Ockie
18-12-2009, 08:39 AM
OK...but u know how you can download the full VMC software off vodacoms website. This software installs on your computer and this works with a number of modems. Not like the VMC lite that sits on the modem itself. Does MTN not have something similar that you can just install on the computer to use instead of the software on the dongle?

Iam3G
18-12-2009, 08:40 AM
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=3448554&postcount=14

morkhans
18-12-2009, 09:00 AM
Nope. Device is hard locked.

Any cellular device sold in South Africa, by law, cannot be hardware locked.

sand_man
18-12-2009, 09:51 AM
Any cellular device sold in South Africa, by law, cannot be hardware locked.
Well then they've broken the law...

morkhans
18-12-2009, 10:04 AM
Well then they've broken the law...

Who would that be? If you have a hardware locked device purchased at a Vodacom retail outlet please post the details here so VCD can comment.

Jola
18-12-2009, 10:25 AM
OK...but u know how you can download the full VMC software off vodacoms website. This software installs on your computer and this works with a number of modems. Not like the VMC lite that sits on the modem itself. Does MTN not have something similar that you can just install on the computer to use instead of the software on the dongle?

MTN have a software suite on their website that looks just like VMC
(except yellow and blue). It's their version of the Huawei dashboard (just as VMC is Vodofone's version).

I have used it to access MTN data with a Vodafone E220.

Don't know about this K3565-Z, however, it's not made by Huawei.

sand_man
18-12-2009, 11:39 AM
Who would that be? If you have a hardware locked device purchased at a Vodacom retail outlet please post the details here so VCD can comment.
Was purchased at Nashuamobile Norwood branch. Does that count? Vodafone K3565 (ZTE) acquired when renewing a data bundle contract through Nashua with Vodacom.

As I have done in the past on a E220 and E270 I sought to remove what I consider to a buggy piece of software (VMC) and replace it with Mobile Partner. I was unsuccessful.

In the past on the said E270 despite the VMC software an inserted mtn sim works in conjunction with the VMC interface. On this occasion it does not instead asking for a valid sim card to be inserted...

Iam3G
18-12-2009, 11:48 AM
Was purchased at Nashuamobile Norwood branch. Does that count? Vodafone K3565 (ZTE) acquired when renewing a data bundle contract through Nashua with Vodacom.

Did you check with your nearest Vodacare if it was indeed a Vodacom Supplied Modem?

It happened once here(first time i saw) that a customer brought in his phone for repairs and Vodacare told him it was an MTN supplied Handset. He couldn't understand it because he took out a contract with Vodacom at Nashua Mobile.

What if that Nashua Mobile supplied you with a Non-VSP unit?

sand_man
18-12-2009, 11:55 AM
Did you check with your nearest Vodacare if it was indeed a Vodacom Supplied Modem?
What if that Nashua Mobile supplied you with a Non-VSP unit?I did not!! Says Vodafone on the unit so I assume it's a vodafone/vodacom modem...

KhoisanX
18-12-2009, 12:04 PM
Have you tried setting up a manual dial-up connection, i.e. without using the software?

Iam3G
18-12-2009, 12:04 PM
I did not!! Says Vodafone on the unit so I assume it's a vodafone/vodacom modem...

Vodafone has affiliates all over Europe(and probably other places which i dont know about). All have "Vodafone" branded modems?

Iam3G
18-12-2009, 12:05 PM
Have you tried setting up a manual dial-up connection, i.e. without using the software?

I suggested this twice. It would take less than 5 minutes.

sand_man
18-12-2009, 12:12 PM
I suggested this twice. It would take less than 5 minutes.
I have not. TBH I've given up trying to "unlock" the thing. It's my business partners and I don't have access to the device to try it now.

Thing is the modem flat out refuses to acknowledge anything other than a Vodacom sim so even if one was to set up a manual connect Windows would not find the available sim/modem on the system... IMO...

Would love someone else that is having the same issues to try it and revert...

Iam3G
18-12-2009, 12:18 PM
I have not. TBH I've given up trying to "unlock" the thing. It's my business partners and I don't have access to the device to try it now.

Thing is the modem flat out refuses to acknowledge anything other than a Vodacom sim so even if one was to set up a manual connect Windows would not find the available sim/modem on the system... IMO...

Would love someone else that is having the same issues to try it and revert...

When you do get access to the device, try this:

1. Remove the SIM PIN from the MTN SIM.

2. Place MTN SIM in the Modem and Plug in the modem.

3. I believe the k3565 flashes Red when searching for a network, it should then flash Blue when it finds the MTN Network.

4. If the VMC Dashboard opens(or is open), close it.

5. Create the Manual DuN Connection and see what happens.

I think Vodacom and MTN use the same APN and Dial-Up Number(internet and *99#).

This is what i did to prove to a customer once that the modem isn't locked.

Sackboy
18-12-2009, 12:30 PM
We've had this conversation before. The device is unlocked. There is no reason why Vodacom should have to support the SIMs of other providers in their dashboard software. :rolleyes:
Then why do they "support" the SIMS of MTN, Virgin, Cell C and any SIM of any network in their Vodacom and Vodafone phones?

The ability to use other networks has been blocked by the software, when it quite easily need not have been. It probably took longer to make it so as well.

It is an anti-competitive spoiling action and there's no other way to describe it.

Iam3G
18-12-2009, 12:41 PM
Then why do they "support" the SIMS of MTN, Virgin, Cell C and any SIM of any network in their Vodacom and Vodafone phones?

The ability to use other networks has been blocked by the software, when it quite easily need not have been. It probably took longer to make it so as well.

It is an anti-competitive spoiling action and there's no other way to describe it.

Actually no, its quite easy to make it so.

Sackboy
18-12-2009, 12:47 PM
We've had this conversation before. The device is unlocked. There is no reason why Vodacom should have to support the SIMs of other providers in their dashboard software. :rolleyes:

Here's some evidence from Wiki about locking on the E220 (another Vofone product which I use as an example). If you disagree, by all means write your own version on Wiki and dispute it there.


Some network operators selling E220, however, replace Huawei's software with their own, which often is software-locked (albeit not SIM-locked) to work only with the operator's own network. End users can use either third-party software such as MWconn (freeware) or alternative operating systems (e.g. Linux) to circumvent this and use their E220 with any SIM, or flash their device with Huawei's original software.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei_E220

Here is some more evidence of how it doesn't cooperate.

Debranding Vodafone K3565-Z
The K3565-Z comes with an installer for Vodafone's dashboard ("Vodafone Mobile Connect" ) in it's flashmemory, which will start installation of the dashboard automatically after plugging the modem into your computer. The Vodafone dashboard takes up relatively much resources on your system and it refuses to connect to other networks than Vodafone's. So if you want to use another network or just a thinner dashboard, you need to use an unbranded one. You can either just download and install such on your computer (see "Dashboard" below) or, if you want your device to have ready installation files for an unbranded dashboard permanently, use one of the following debranding methods:http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/ZTE+K3565-Z+%28Vodafone%29

The above link also contains instructions on how to debrand it. I've not tried any of them, so I can't vouch for their safety or effectiveness.

Sackboy
18-12-2009, 12:49 PM
Actually no, its quite easy to make it so.I didn't say it wasn't easy, just that the programming took longer because extra steps are involved. They went out of their way to block other networks :mad:

Iam3G
18-12-2009, 12:52 PM
I didn't say it wasn't easy, just that the programming took longer because extra steps are involved. They went out of their way to block other networks :mad:

The other Networks aren't blocked. I even used my own MTN SIM once to connect with my Vodafone Branded E220 and K3520.

Sackboy
18-12-2009, 01:03 PM
The other Networks aren't blocked. I even used my own MTN SIM once to connect with my Vodafone Branded E220 and K3520.I'm going to repeat this just once more for all the Voda trolls. VMC Lite is software locked to the Vodacom network (& all associated companies). You cannot use it to connect to MTN or Virgin, or Cell-C in SA!

BigAl-sa
18-12-2009, 01:45 PM
I'm going to repeat this just once more for all the Voda trolls. VMC Lite is software locked to the Vodacom network (& all associated companies). You cannot use it to connect to MTN or Virgin, or Cell-C in SA!
The modem is not locked. Plug it into a Linux PC with ozerocdoff installed and you should have no problems using it. As has been said, you don't need to use the VMC software - as with Linux, I'm sure someone has written something for win to disable the autorun in the modem's flash memory.

Sackboy
18-12-2009, 01:51 PM
The modem is not locked. Plug it into a Linux PC with ozerocdoff installed and you should have no problems using it. As has been said, you don't need to use the VMC software - as with Linux, I'm sure someone has written something for win to disable the autorun in the modem's flash memory.
So are you saying it's not locked because it works under Linux!! Come now ..

Most people buying these modems would not be willing or able to carry out the port blocking or software downloading or re-flashing. We easily forget that this forum is quite technical. We're talking about a product that will not work out of the box because, as Wiki says, it's a software lock.

Keep it real.:p

Iam3G
18-12-2009, 01:58 PM
So are you saying it's not locked because it works under Linux!! Come now ..

Most people buying these modems would not be willing or able to carry out the port blocking or software downloading or re-flashing. We easily forget that this forum is quite technical. We're talking about a product that will not work out of the box because, as Wiki says, it's a software lock.

Keep it real.:p

You dont need to port block, download software, or re-flash the modem. You simply need to create a Dial-up connection with the Networks settings you want to use. Like i pointed out, it takes less than 5 minutes.

BigAl-sa
18-12-2009, 02:06 PM
You dont need to port block, download software, or re-flash the modem. You simply need to create a Dial-up connection with the Networks settings you want to use. Like i pointed out, it takes less than 5 minutes.I think we're wasting bandwidth in this thread...

morkhans
18-12-2009, 03:34 PM
@sackboy, while you can keep harping on about your "software lock" issues, the fact remains that with a little technical know-how (or simply following steps laid out by others) you can load a generic dash and use any SIM you like.

The one thing everyone keeps forgetting is support. What do you think MTN are going to say to you when you call them up and they ask you to check your 'yello settings and you go: "uhmm where do I see that in my Vodafone dash?" :rolleyes:

PS: The wetpaint link was a good find :)

morkhans
18-12-2009, 03:38 PM
Was purchased at Nashuamobile Norwood branch. Does that count? Vodafone K3565 (ZTE) acquired when renewing a data bundle contract through Nashua with Vodacom

The ZTE modem is not made by Huawei so mobile partner will not work. You need to either setup a manual dial-up as suggested by the other posters or follow the links to the generic dash options.

sand_man
18-12-2009, 05:27 PM
Look I appreciate the advise but has anyone actually successfully used the Vodafone K3565 (ZTE) with MTN?

Why is it necessary for Sackboy, myself and others to go to these lengths to use this particular modem with which ever network we desire?

sand_man
18-12-2009, 11:01 PM
Stop bitching and moaning and use one of the many alternative dashboards available, I recommend using ginggs' MDMA, which is also generic.As stated earlier I've used an E220 and an E272 where removing the VMC software was not an issue. Both modems gladly and readily accepted any sim inserted..

The K3565 is hard locked/network locked whatever locked (legally or illegally) and I don't have the technical prowess nor the inclination to spend a week wrestling with the thing...

In any event the damn thing doesn't belong to me, it belongs to my business partner so it's his baby.

I have forfeited a mobile internet solution for my sanity both mental and financial.

Who needs this at R349 per month per gig for minimum 2 years!!! We bitch and complain about Eskom but God forbid we should bitch and moan about these crooks... (Mtn, Vodacom etc etc etc)...

Jola
18-12-2009, 11:31 PM
The K3565 is hard locked/network locked whatever locked (legally or illegally) and I don't have the technical prowess nor the inclination to spend a week wrestling with the thing....

The problem is that you have the non-Huawei version of the K3565, and it doesn't run the standard Huawei Mobile Partner software.

I have the Huawei K3565, and had no problem updating the Huawei Mobile Partner software, and it will run with any ISP, local or overseas.

In future, if you want to be safe, just make sure that you get a Huawei modem !!!

All your problems are related to the above, and it doesn't help to blame Vodacom, MTN, or anyone else.

sand_man
18-12-2009, 11:41 PM
Didn't know there was any other kind other than the Huawei.

Specifically made mention to the sales man at Nashua that I didn't like vmc and would be changing to mobile partner, that I would be using voda and Mtn sims. He said it wouldn't be an issue and based on my previous experiences I had no reason to doubt him.

Anyway...

Jola
18-12-2009, 11:48 PM
Specifically made mention to the sales man at Nashua that I didn't like vmc and would be changing to mobile partner, that I would be using voda and Mtn sims. He said it wouldn't be an issue and based on my previous experiences I had no reason to doubt him.


He clearly made a mistake, you could always see if you could arrange a swap !

You want the Vodafone K3565, with no Z's anywhere - that will run Mobile Partner perfectly. http://www.huawei.com/mobileweb/en/doc/list.do?type=-1&id=5840

sand_man
18-12-2009, 11:55 PM
He clearly made a mistake, you could always see if you could arrange a swap !

This was about 5 months ago. I'm living with it. Well at least my partner is. Only making mention as this thread came up.

It's dissapointing for me to learn that I could have/ should have got a huawei instead of the zte.

Jola
19-12-2009, 12:08 AM
It's dissapointing for me to learn that I could have/ should have got a huawei instead of the zte.

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. It is unfortunate, but these things happen, the difference here is that Huawei is a bigger company with better support.

I got my K3565 here, all-in cost was about R500 :

http://cgi.ebay.com/VODAFONE-K3565-BROADBAND-MODEM-UNLOCKED_W0QQitemZ120505273624QQcmdZViewItemQQptZU K_Computing_LaptopAccessories_PCMCIACards?hash=ite m1c0eac8d18

Just tell him not to include the postage in the value on the customs declaration, it's incorrect and means that you pay more VAT. But he seems to be reliable.

sand_man
19-12-2009, 12:13 AM
Excellent. That will work. Never considered this option.

Jola
19-12-2009, 12:25 AM
BTW, the K3565 that I received already had pretty new software and Mobile Partner on it, the seller must have installed it.

I upgraded it to the latest versions, but it wasn't really necessary - I only did it because I am running W7, and wanted the latest software.

morkhans
19-12-2009, 12:33 AM
Didn't know there was any other kind other than the Huawei.

Specifically made mention to the sales man at Nashua that I didn't like vmc and would be changing to mobile partner, that I would be using voda and Mtn sims. He said it wouldn't be an issue and based on my previous experiences I had no reason to doubt him.

Anyway...

That is a real pity. I was also not aware until recently that these ZTE models existed. It's a pain that the model number is the same because not everyone is going to suffix the H or Z. Hopefully if ginggs gets his hands on one MDMA will be an easy alternative dash to use.

sand_man
19-12-2009, 09:15 AM
Agreed. In my particular case I dealt with the store owner/ manager, David (name and shame em).

On another occassion I applied for a data bundle with vodacom and the then available hardware E272.

A week later he tells me to come in collect the hardware and sign the contract.

I get there and it's a E270 and the deal is with Mtn.

When i enquire he tells me vodacom had no stock so he took it upon himself to subscribe me to Mtn....

????? I order an audi and they deliver a BMW????

Anyway. I have as little to do with these chimps as possible these days. It's simply not worth the aggravation.

Not when we have Afrihost and cybersmart offering so much more for so much less. Portability/mobility is so over rated in any event.

Hymn
20-04-2010, 08:35 AM
Hi,

I have a K3765-Z USB modem and would like to use an alternative to VMC Lite. I have tried MDMA but it doesn't appear to support my device.

Is there a better alternative I could use? VMC Lite does not function properly, for example if I disconnect manually it automatically re-connects to the network even if it's disabled in the options. I have tried downloading the latest VMC software from the Vodafone support website but it doesn't download an installer program, instead it downloads a 3kb file with no extension.

Also, VMC doesn't correctly monitor my data usage. I have Netlimiter which shows all connection usage and the amounts vary for each session. I would prefer not to use VMC any more.

Thanks in advance :)

rapidblue
20-04-2010, 09:03 AM
I use the generic Huawei software (Mobile Partner). I have a E272 and have thus flashed it onto the actual modem. Seems the K3765 is quite a tough one - it has a customized firmware/dashboard set :(

CeeBee
20-04-2010, 09:09 AM
my experience also is that the Vodafone modems don't like to use alternative software. U gotta stop allll the related stuff.
the latest VMC from Voda website seems to work OK... but me still having trouble using the VMC with a non Voda simcard, keeps showing me the finger.... perhaps there's a setting for it.
best option for me to use the MTN Fastlink software, even with Voda or Telkom sim, no bitching about incorrect simcard

morkhans
20-04-2010, 09:10 AM
I use the generic Huawei software (Mobile Partner). I have a E272 and have thus flashed it onto the actual modem. Seems the K3765 is quite a tough one - it has a customized firmware/dashboard set :(

Not going to work on the ZTE model. Take a look at this: http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/ZTE+K3565-Z+%28Vodafone%29

ginggs
20-04-2010, 09:17 AM
my experience also is that the Vodafone [-]modems[/-] software don't like to use alternative software. U gotta stop allll the related stuff.
Fixed that. :)

rapidblue
20-04-2010, 09:18 AM
Oops, didn't notice the "Z" behind the K3765. Try this version of VMC http://www.business.vodafone.com/site/bus/public/enuk/support/10_productsupport/usb_stick/01_vodafone/vodafone_k3765z/20_software/p_software.jsp

ginggs
20-04-2010, 09:19 AM
I have a K3765-Z USB modem and would like to use an alternative to VMC Lite. I have tried MDMA but it doesn't appear to support my device.
I added the ZTE commands to MDMA and tested it on a K3520-Z, shouldn't be too difficult to get it to work with your modem. Send me an email with the details.

Hymn
20-04-2010, 09:56 AM
my experience also is that the Vodafone modems don't like to use alternative software. U gotta stop allll the related stuff.
the latest VMC from Voda website seems to work OK... but me still having trouble using the VMC with a non Voda simcard, keeps showing me the finger.... perhaps there's a setting for it.
best option for me to use the MTN Fastlink software, even with Voda or Telkom sim, no bitching about incorrect simcard

I have the MTN F@stlink Software installed, unfortunately it doesn't pick up my device.


Oops, didn't notice the "Z" behind the K3765. Try this version of VMC http://www.business.vodafone.com/site/bus/public/enuk/support/10_productsupport/usb_stick/01_vodafone/vodafone_k3765z/20_software/p_software.jsp

Will take a look, thank you.


I added the ZTE commands to MDMA and tested it on a K3520-Z, shouldn't be too difficult to get it to work with your modem. Send me an email with the details.

Have sent you a PM with some info, kind sir.

The funny part of it all is that if I use my iPhone as a modem it gets faster connection speeds than my K3765-Z. The only downfall of using it is that by adding cap to my iPhone sim (because of applications which constantly update/check online) I go through cap a lot quicker than the USB modem. It's sad to think that I forked out R1600.00 for this device and my Phone serves the function better :/

Hymn
20-04-2010, 03:18 PM
Oops, didn't notice the "Z" behind the K3765. Try this version of VMC http://www.business.vodafone.com/site/bus/public/enuk/support/10_productsupport/usb_stick/01_vodafone/vodafone_k3765z/20_software/p_software.jsp

Hmm. I tried to download it, on the website it says it's a 73mb file but once I click download and enter in the security pass it downloads a 3kb file with an unknown extension. I've tried switching explorers (Firefox-IE) and the problem persists. Not sure what's going on.

rapidblue
20-04-2010, 04:59 PM
Hmm. I tried to download it, on the website it says it's a 73mb file but once I click download and enter in the security pass it downloads a 3kb file with an unknown extension. I've tried switching explorers (Firefox-IE) and the problem persists. Not sure what's going on.

Weird. You using some sort of download manager? I just tried on Safari on my Mac and it got the link no problem...
Gonna PM you a link but I think it might expire... give it a try anyways...

rapidblue
20-04-2010, 05:02 PM
Weird. You using some sort of download manager? I just tried on Safari on my Mac and it got the link no problem...
Gonna PM you a link but I think it might expire... give it a try anyways...

Ooh, that link I just sent you probably won't work. Sorry.
Did you get to the step where you have to enter a captcha code before downloading?

Hymn
20-04-2010, 05:18 PM
Yes, I did. It's weird that it's not downloading. I was using DAP but figured that may be it and disabled it, still no success.

However, I did find an alternative that works 100%. Here ya go (http://www.dc-unlocker.com/downloads/ZTE).Dashboard and software.

Thanks for the help, appreciated.

rapidblue
20-04-2010, 07:35 PM
Yes, I did. It's weird that it's not downloading. I was using DAP but figured that may be it and disabled it, still no success.

However, I did find an alternative that works 100%. Here ya go (http://www.dc-unlocker.com/downloads/ZTE).Dashboard and software.

Thanks for the help, appreciated.

Cool. Glad you came right :)

Hymn
27-04-2010, 08:11 AM
Hm. I have a bit of a problem and did not want to start a new thread, so I'll just ask in here.

I'm not sure why, but I get full 3G signal at my work and 1 bar short of full at home. However, my speeds are utterly terrible and I am having unstable connections. what baffles me is that my roommate who is on MTN has a stable connection when he only has 2 bars of 3G signal and he NEVER gets disconnected.

This troubles me since I play World of Warcraft in the evenings with him and I can't even manage to stay connected for more than 10 minutes a session while he is able to stay connected all night with relatively good speeds. Look, I'm not comparing network providers here or saying that one is better than the other (if that was the case I would have switched already), I'm just curious as to why my internet connection is as unstable as nitroglycerin on full reception while he can maintain good, stable connections on only 2 bars.

Hopefully somebody can point me in the right direction as to how to go about fixing this or perhaps improving my stability.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: For clarification's sake I'm using a K3765-Z USB modem as stated in the begining of the thread.

rapidblue
27-04-2010, 09:04 AM
It is possible that it could be the network. Where I used to live previously I had good signal but my 3G was horrible!! Kept disconnecting and often stopped sending and receiving data. At my new place (with the same Mac and same modem) my 3G is soooooo stable. In that case - definitely the tower!!

You'll have to compare by using his modem in your machine, your modem in his machine etc. to work out if it's the machine, modem or network...

Hymn
27-04-2010, 09:15 AM
You'll have to compare by using his modem in your machine, your modem in his machine etc. to work out if it's the machine, modem or network...

Have tried this. He used my modem the whole of Saturday without a problem. I, using his modem, was still having the same issues as before. I'm betting my buck it's a network issue, though wishing it wasn't as I then have to go through the whole rigmarole of buying an MTN sim and re-registering it. Well, I suppose it's less troublesome than relocating.

Full signal strength doesn't mean much when I can't stay connected long enough to do something other than browsing.

rapidblue
27-04-2010, 09:25 AM
Have tried this. He used my modem the whole of Saturday without a problem. I, using his modem, was still having the same issues as before. I'm betting my buck it's a network issue, though wishing it wasn't as I then have to go through the whole rigmarole of buying an MTN sim and re-registering it. Well, I suppose it's less troublesome than relocating.

Full signal strength doesn't mean much when I can't stay connected long enough to do something other than browsing.

When you guys swopped modems, did you also swop sim cards?
If you only swopped modems (not sims) and the problem was the same, then it could be network or something on your computer.
Swop sims as well and let us know...

Hymn
27-04-2010, 09:38 AM
When you guys swopped modems, did you also swop sim cards?
If you only swopped modems (not sims) and the problem was the same, then it could be network or something on your computer.
Swop sims as well and let us know...

No we didn't, just tried to swap modems to see if it was hardware-related. I will try with an MTN sim this afternoon and see how it goes.

rapidblue
27-04-2010, 09:52 AM
No we didn't, just tried to swap modems to see if it was hardware-related. I will try with an MTN sim this afternoon and see how it goes.

Cool. Let us know...

Hymn
27-04-2010, 11:43 AM
Just went out and got an MTN sim, loaded some cap and tried out WoW. No disconnects, high latencies as of yet and been connected for 30 mins now.

Looks like I found the problem. Thanks for the help.

rapidblue
27-04-2010, 11:49 AM
Just went out and got an MTN sim, loaded some cap and tried out WoW. No disconnects, high latencies as of yet and been connected for 30 mins now.

Looks like I found the problem. Thanks for the help.

Hmmm... could be a glitchy Vodacom tower at your place then. Good luck with the MTN :)

Absinth
25-05-2010, 10:36 AM
Hi All
I have a K3565 Rev 2 from Vodafone UK
I "flashed" it with the original Mobile Partner software, but it still asking me for an unlock code.

Any idea to get past this code?

morkhans
25-05-2010, 10:58 AM
Hi All
I have a K3565 Rev 2 from Vodafone UK
I "flashed" it with the original Mobile Partner software, but it still asking me for an unlock code.

Any idea to get past this code?

The unlock and the dash are two separate things. You need to speak to Vodafone UK or make use of one of the unlock services online.

nuyork
25-05-2010, 02:06 PM
Vodafone UK are still locking their devices to their network only?

morkhans
25-05-2010, 02:08 PM
Vodafone UK are still locking their devices to their network only?

Yup, because
a) They can
b) Their modems are much more heavily subsidised than here.

pulling wire
06-10-2010, 05:41 PM
I am considering changing over from the Vodafone dashboard to a generic dashboard such as Partner Connect, what do you recommend? I have a Vodafone K3565-Z modem.

elriconess
06-10-2010, 06:04 PM
I have a Vodafone K3565-Z modem.

I have the same modem and I use Join Air a dashboard that works with all ZTE devices. You can find it here, http://www.dc-unlocker.com/downloads/get/HwTBkKOv

Terencek
07-10-2010, 11:08 AM
I found with using this excellent generic dashboard that it was not even necessary to remove the original Vodafone software built into the stick -- that's useful if you don't want to invalidate your warranty. In theory the generic software means you can then use the modem anywhere in the world.

RVD
07-10-2010, 05:02 PM
Was able to get the generic dashboard to work with Vodaphone K4505-Z :-)

http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/ZTE+K3565-Z+%28Vodafone%29
(Using soft method ATM. Will try hard method once I have tested 1st method enough)

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread and put me on the right path!
Going to test if I can get CellC new data promo to work with this modem using this dashboard.
Will post in the CellC sub-forum.

pulling wire
07-10-2010, 06:29 PM
Thanks for steering me in the right direction guys, will try out Join Air.

YukiSokudo
10-06-2011, 02:32 AM
I have the ZTE K3565-Z Vodafone Branded modem, purchased in south africa. I'm using a MTN Sim, since I can get the "1 DAy upcapped" service. What I want to do:

1. Use it via MDMA in Windows, and actually get the Data Counters to work. (MDMA sees the modem, but when I connect the data counters stay on O)

2. Use the modem, with an mtn sim card in Ubuntu Linux, but I'd need to be able to install the drivers/whatever else offline, as this is my ONLY connection. I still need to DL Ubuntu, so I'll probably have version 11.04. For this I need specific instructions.

Help?

ginggs
10-06-2011, 07:18 AM
1. Use it via MDMA in Windows, and actually get the Data Counters to work. (MDMA sees the modem, but when I connect the data counters stay on O)
The ZTE modems do not provide this information over the AT interface. Maybe one day MDMA will read the data counters from Windows RAS.

2. Use the modem, with an mtn sim card in Ubuntu Linux, but I'd need to be able to install the drivers/whatever else offline, as this is my ONLY connection. I still need to DL Ubuntu, so I'll probably have version 11.04. For this I need specific instructions.
Ubuntu 11.04 works very well with 3G modems. Where are you based? I'm sure someone here will help you out with a CD.

You can also try using ZTE's own dashboard called Join Air, you'll have to Google for it, there are no download links on ZTE's website.

YukiSokudo
10-06-2011, 09:14 AM
The ZTE modems do not provide this information over the AT interface.
Didn't know that....


Where are you based? I'm sure someone here will help you out with a CD.
I live in Hermanus, and would love it if someone else had already done the DL for me, since it's a bit on the big side. Will the modem work "out the box" with Linux?



You can also try using ZTE's own dashboard called Join Air, you'll have to Google for it, there are no download links on ZTE's website.
I found the software needed to "debrand" at http://3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/ZTE+K3565-Z+%28Vodafone%29

ginggs
10-06-2011, 09:34 AM
I live in Hermanus, and would love it if someone else had already done the DL for me, since it's a bit on the big side.
I can burn you a disc, but you'll have to come to Cape Town to fetch it.

Will the modem work "out the box" with Linux?
I haven't tried the K3565-Z myself, but every other Huawei and ZTE modem I have tried so far has just worked.