Politically South Africa are in a bad place

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Politically South Africa is in a bad place

Zuma has not proved an outright disaster and that's a relief. But what kind of presidency is taking shape? The signs are ominous.

Zuma is rewarding his cronies, such as Mo Shaik - the man who made the disgraceful claim that Bulelani Ngcuka was an apartheid spy - with positions in the government. He believes that Julius Malema is a future leader of the ANC. He visited the despotic Equatorial Guinea on one of his first official trips abroad. He is forming an alliance with religious organisations that want to roll back aspects of the constitution.

He has appointed Menzi Simelane, a man who openly believes prosecutions ought to be directed by politicians, as the head of the National Prosecuting Authority. The only possible reason for this is that Zuma wants, either directly or by proxy, to head off the prosecution of his political cronies.

All of these are ill portents. They suggest that there is no prospect that the decline of the state into a vehicle for the enrichment of the political elite will be arrested. Nowhere is this more apparent than when it comes to making policy. The focus ought to be on making South Africa a globally competitive investment destination, with policies that will build our industrial capacity and press home our dimming strategic advantages. Instead, we are doomed to have no policy, or a policy that is expressed in a myriad hues to appease the constituencies from which the elite derives its power, without signifying anything.

It is fair to say that the economic policy "debate" has hit an all-time low. We are expected to discuss enthusiastically nationalising the mines.

We are, frankly, the laughing stock of the world as we pretend to ourselves that state-driven social engineering is still a serious option.

There must be more to life than choosing between the naked populism of Malema and the quaint statism of the SACP's Jeremy Cronin.

Our best hope for leadership out of the morass, Trevor Manuel, has been turned into a producer of green papers that he is forced to defend at every turn without any assistance from what is referred to as "the leadership".

Hopes that the anachronistic statist industrial policy driven by Alec Erwin will be replaced by an acknowledgement that we are now in the 21st century have faded.

The gap between rich and poor grows, and the middle classes find themselves squeezed for every penny as the cost of providing private alternatives to the state's failing education, health and security services outstrips growth in salaries.

Yes, let's celebrate the World Cup, let's welcome our guests and show them a good time, let's have a big football party.

But let's not forget that we are way behind the global eight-ball.

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I tend to agree

Right now, with some skills (or the right connections), it's not too diffucult to make money in za and to really live the good life. (god help those who don't have any "skills" to sell or connections to exploit - just take a drive past one of the many informal settlements around to see just how many of these poor b@stards there are).

My advice would be to keep one's options open though; invest in a life elsewhere, where things are a bit more stable - you don't want to be one of the last rats scrambling about for the few remaining bits of flotsam when the ship goes down.
 
Didnt we all know this going in to the election?

But how were you planning on avoiding it?
 
Didnt we all know this going in to the election?

But how were you planning on avoiding it?

Depends on who you mean by "we all". Some people still seem to think JZ is doing so much for the country

Put as much money as you deem necessary into investing offshore (SARS approved limit is 2 bar). Property, stock markets etc. I saved and bought a place in Brisbane which I'm renting out (rental market there is through the roof for some reason).
 
Depends on who you mean by "we all". Some people still seem to think JZ is doing so much for the country

Put as much money as you deem necessary into investing offshore (SARS approved limit is 2 bar). Property, stock markets etc. I saved and bought a place in Brisbane which I'm renting out (rental market there is through the roof for some reason).

Only those with a quarter brain or less would have voted for
Zuma and the ANC given all the warning signs before the last election.

My kids all have US passports and I am married to a US citizen, so I think getting out would be fairly easy for me. We have a lot of family over there.

But I pity those who have no way out should things decide to go pear shaped.
 
I'm leaving for Canada. The more I say this, they more I want to move to Canada.
 
Keep in mind, as long as a few fat cats can line their pockets NOW, there is no reason to look at TOMORROW. Why should they care if the next generation suffers, THEY have the shiny new cars NOW.

Anyway, back to brooding in the corner :)
 
I'm leaving for Canada. The more I say this, they more I want to move to Canada.

Good luck ... it's a beautiful country. Friendly people, high standard of living, low crime . I just couldn't handle the cold there for any length of time.
 
I always thought that polygamy was illegal? Or does the law of the country only apply to some people?
 
Wait for it guys. Zuma is still very relaxed while the world watches us for the 2010 world cup. After that, he has many left wingers to pay back for his support.

The only way things will ever change is if muppets stop voting for ANC
 
Only those with a quarter brain or less would have voted for
Zuma and the ANC given all the warning signs before the last election.

My kids all have US passports and I am married to a US citizen, so I think getting out would be fairly easy for me. We have a lot of family over there.

But I pity those who have no way out should things decide to go pear shaped.

Politically, it would be interesting to see the future results of the 2011 elections.
 
Funny attitude, maybe this guy have some skills this country needs. Rather convince him to stay.

Non he is old enough to know what is the best for him. I also lived in Montreal, and Canada has pros and cons. But anyway, the grass is always greener elsewhere.

There are plenty of expats coming back to South Africa (for whatever reason : family, worldwide crisis, FIFA world cup...).
 
But I pity those who have no way out should things decide to go pear shaped.

Well then, pity me. I plan to go down fighting. I am reminded of the first couple of lines from a poem by Dylan Thomas (it’s about death). An analogy for SA?

“Go not gently into that dark night,
Rage! Rage! Against the dying of the light…”

Dark night = savagery, “Heart of Darkness”, etc.
Light = standards, competence, etc.
 
Definite signs of emulating the way things are done in many 1st world countries.
 
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